Because they're not trying to be attractive, they're trying to show off their musculature as best as possible for competition.
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Do women see extremely muscular men the same way men see anorexic women?
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Because they're not trying to be attractive, they're trying to show off their musculature as best as possible for competition.
When I look at these pictures the more muscled people are, I see less intelligence at first sight. I know better than that, but it's like muscles hide intelligence or something.
And the best way to show off your muscles is to look like a roasted chicken? How does being extremely tanned show more muscles?
And the best way to show off your muscles is to look like a roasted chicken? How does being extremely tanned show more muscles?
I think this guy is a vegan fashion model or something... he was promoting some vegan protien powder or something.
yeah sun warrior products
http://www.sunwarrior.com/
here's his page.
http://sunwarriornews.com/author/anthony/
here, he claims it was a 15lb weight loss, and it took him 43 days
http://gliving.com/raw-model-anthony-andersons-43-day-body-transformation/
Pretty close to a maxed out natural physique:
This is the only picture I like in this thread lol.
Zoe
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You can tell from his face that he had lost weight. He was already muscular before though--you can't see the veins like that on average builds.
youngplaya21
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Not going to lie: this thread made me feel a lot better about myself lol. I always assumed that I had to look like Statham or Srsly to even look average muscle wise, but I'm a lot closer to the pic on the right.More importantly, how do these men view themselves. Unique to America more men suffer body image issues, which I can understand when I see ads promising changes like this.
I'll see a guy in the Before pic on TV talking about how he always works out and eats right and I'll think, "damn right, guys like him and me gotta stay healthy." Then he says, "but I was a fucking fat ass until I used the Xross-Fit Survivor TRaining Core Duo." And then I feel like a fucking fat ass.
Is that guy really so gross in the first pic that he needs to change?
AbortedWalrusFetus
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It probably took him 4.3 hours to go from fit to sloppy. Certainly not 43 days in the other direction. Honestly, he did a kind of shit job of it too. You can see the lines of musculature under his stomach, he should have worn his shorts higher, and you can also see the musculature in his arms and pecs.
Nah, he's just sucking in his cheeks and has his jaw more relaxed in the "after" picture. There's no weight difference anywhere on his face other than his cheeks bend inwards in the "after" picture. Do it in the mirror and you'll see what I mean. I always remind myself to do it for pictures, it makes a big difference. Yes, that's a little sad.
This is pretty much exactly how my body is now. Just trying to get the ab definition that he's lacking.Just look at who most women like in pop culture and you have your answer. Ryan Reynolds, Ryan Gosling, Brad Pitt 10 years ago, etc. They like guys who look lean but clearly work out regularly. Women like something like this:
Ding ding ding.
I prefer to be skinny and toned but w/e do whatever makes you feel good.
All those before and after shots are complete bullshit.More importantly, how do these men view themselves. Unique to America more men suffer body image issues, which I can understand when I see ads promising changes like this.
I'll see a guy in the Before pic on TV talking about how he always works out and eats right and I'll think, "damn right, guys like him and me gotta stay healthy." Then he says, "but I was a fucking fat ass until I used the Xross-Fit Survivor TRaining Core Duo." And then I feel like a fucking fat ass.
Is that guy really so gross in the first pic that he needs to change?
Watch these videos:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=a0m6UVZD7G4
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=M957dACQyfU
Complete bullshit.
CrazyDogg77
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Wait Srsly is one of the Hodgetwins. Or is that picture not him?
I can attest to this!
Anything super bulky is unappealing, even the first picture Kinitari posted is a no go.
I lived with a bodybuilding medical student at uni, he was built close to the extreme examples mentioned in this thread and only took protein shakes it is doable. Even I had a figure close to Gosljng's at some point but I stopped going to the gym and I have slight man blogs although I look slim.
They apply a thick bronzing wax before they go on stage as it highlights definition.
Bam Bam Baklava
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You know that Jasons Ultimatum guy on this board is pretty ripped. I think he posted some pictures and he was close to Patrick Bateman levels.
Escape Goat
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DarthWufei is pretty buff. I demand we stage a NeoGAF Greco roman wrestling match to determine which gafer is the strongest there is.
Houston3000
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My post might of been worded confusingly. I think a body like the one Ryan Gosling has in that photo is easily in reach. I know a LOT of people at the gym who are more fit than that, I've been working out for 3 months and looking that good (at least as far as musculature) seems ultra realistic. I'm optimistic I'll reach that, I know I can at least look that good in a t-shirt even now (my pecs and delts aren't that big though yet, plus my abs and obliques are very undefined).
Dropping down to 7% BF though isn't something I would do. That's way low, requires either crazy genes or some really hard cutting techniques and a diet I wouldn't want to put myself through. It's not out of reach, I just wouldn't reach for it, at least at this point. Like I said, a stable 12-14% would be perfectly adequate - 10% is very defined. That being said, I'm not a nutrition expert, maybe I'm wrong or way off with those percentages. Gosling definitely looks a little over 10% to me in that photo though.
Pretty close to a maxed out natural physique:
A shame when they open their mouths though.
Bam Bam Baklava
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A shame when they open their mouths though.
A shame? They're the funniest guys I've ever heard.
Zoramon089
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Semi muscular? You mean no muscles?
Pfft he has some...in his arms. And he's not anorexic lol.
Bam Bam Baklava
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No muscles mang.
But seriously this guy is probably close to or below 10% body fat and it's almost like it doesn't matter because he has no muscles. This is why muscles are so important, they can make you look good if you got 6% or 15% body fat.
FlyingTeacup
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is this a poor man's excuse for ogling at dudes' bodies?
Typically women prefers men who has good shoulder width to waist ratio, athletic. Not all women into steroid inflated guys. A good friend of mine, female, does like very muscular dudes.
Typically women prefers men who has good shoulder width to waist ratio, athletic. Not all women into steroid inflated guys. A good friend of mine, female, does like very muscular dudes.
freenudemacusers
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Thread needs more thinspiration. Need to get tiny for hedi slimane's fashion return next year.
Yes.
I know many women saying that they love a little belly or a normal guy, not muscle bound guys. Not even body builder levels, but good, athletic bodies are too much.
Personally, girls were telling me directly that I was getting too big and that so much muscles are gross and blah when I really started to grow during school. I wasn't even big, that Pitt in Fight Club pic is about right. Not as sexy lower abs, excessive abs training is for the mirror posers, not for me. Other girls were suddenly a lot nicer, though
. But overall my experience was that guys liked it more than girls seemed to.
I got bigger, then I had problems with my wrist and now near constant bacterial infections in my respiratory system after getting my nose septum straightened last November. A bit more body fat really makes you look smaller. And muscle loss, of course. Blargh.
Personally I'd go for the guy with a stick pic, which is a nice buff body with enough veins showing but not the gross super vascularity or the laughable low body fat with abs but no real mass disco poser type. The body developing aspect is IMO not as fun as the feel you get when you lift really heavy weights and feel like a barely constrained beast, but that body should be achievable with a focus on strength training instead of only muscle pumping.
Would girls like this body? I don't know. Do I care? Not really. All I know is that the feel of pumped up arms that feel too big for your skin is incredible. The feel of veins pressing visibly through your chest or stomach is great as well, but to retain a really low body fat % I needed to eat like shit and was really easy to get enraged. Not worth it, IMO. Just like girls that don't like me or judge me for my looks.
Personally, girls were telling me directly that I was getting too big and that so much muscles are gross and blah when I really started to grow during school. I wasn't even big, that Pitt in Fight Club pic is about right. Not as sexy lower abs, excessive abs training is for the mirror posers, not for me. Other girls were suddenly a lot nicer, though
and everybody, but especially guys, started groping my chest, arms and butt, not cool, bro
I got bigger, then I had problems with my wrist and now near constant bacterial infections in my respiratory system after getting my nose septum straightened last November. A bit more body fat really makes you look smaller. And muscle loss, of course. Blargh.
Personally I'd go for the guy with a stick pic, which is a nice buff body with enough veins showing but not the gross super vascularity or the laughable low body fat with abs but no real mass disco poser type. The body developing aspect is IMO not as fun as the feel you get when you lift really heavy weights and feel like a barely constrained beast, but that body should be achievable with a focus on strength training instead of only muscle pumping.
Would girls like this body? I don't know. Do I care? Not really. All I know is that the feel of pumped up arms that feel too big for your skin is incredible. The feel of veins pressing visibly through your chest or stomach is great as well, but to retain a really low body fat % I needed to eat like shit and was really easy to get enraged. Not worth it, IMO. Just like girls that don't like me or judge me for my looks.
To throw my own two cents into this discussion, I myself have the ideal physique that everyone's talking about (the Cristiano Ronaldo physique); I get checked out by women all the time especially if I have my shirt off. I'm lean, ripped, and have a high metabolism (due to good genes which I take for granted); I work out as well and eat all right (not super healthy, but good). Gaffers that have seen me in person say that I'm a handsome guy. I weigh 179 lbs currently but it fluctuates between 182 and 179 since I don't go outside a lot and when I do, I walk a huge amount of blocks which burns calories. The only thing that I hate about it is that other guys feel inferior to me and even envy me. For example, people will want to know what I take or do stupid alpha male tests such as wanting to arm wrestle me (which I ignore). It's a double-edged sword.
On the opposite side of the spectrum is my oldest brother who weighs 155lbs, drinks protein shakes, as well as takes creatine. He feels inferior to me despite him having a ton of experience with women (which I do not have). He thinks that most women like big guys who weigh over 200lbs (his ideal weight/most guys' ideal male weight). So he has a massive inferiority complex. I disagreed with him and told him that it varies between women. I think that guys don't have to be big to be able to attract women; working out does help guys look and feel good for sure but otherwise, no.
I have friends who take steroids who massive inferiority complexes and insecurity issues; I witnessed one of my friends inject my other friend's ass with the drug. Hell, even guys at my gym have Adonis complexes/inferiority complex despite taking steroids. I myself immediately get suspicious when I see a ripped, massively muscular guy with tattoos in the streets or at the gym because honestly, they're downright repulsive to look at.
On the opposite side of the spectrum is my oldest brother who weighs 155lbs, drinks protein shakes, as well as takes creatine. He feels inferior to me despite him having a ton of experience with women (which I do not have). He thinks that most women like big guys who weigh over 200lbs (his ideal weight/most guys' ideal male weight). So he has a massive inferiority complex. I disagreed with him and told him that it varies between women. I think that guys don't have to be big to be able to attract women; working out does help guys look and feel good for sure but otherwise, no.
I have friends who take steroids who massive inferiority complexes and insecurity issues; I witnessed one of my friends inject my other friend's ass with the drug. Hell, even guys at my gym have Adonis complexes/inferiority complex despite taking steroids. I myself immediately get suspicious when I see a ripped, massively muscular guy with tattoos in the streets or at the gym because honestly, they're downright repulsive to look at.
triplestation
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A shame when they open their mouths though.
What do you mean shame? Are you like a prestigious professor or book club member?
Bam Bam Baklava
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So you guys are saying when I'm totally ripped I still won't get girls or be happy? Damn.
Lay off the curls brah.
TBH This is my ideal body type i'd go for. Not to thin, semi muscle, good skin tone. Obviously not everyone would go for this thin.
This isn't good lol
It's a muscle imbalance and looks stupid.
Pfft I like it.
This is what my little brother is going for. He did pretty well for about a year working out normally, and now is taking about 800mg of three different injections a week. What was it that Zyzz took to bulk up? Tren? My brother is taking tren, test enth, dnp, and something else I can't recall.
Zyzz imo.
Looks great without a shirt and looks normal with a shirt on. A body that someone admires rather than feels threatened by.
So I am not sure I would call Zyzz the best role model! But then, I am not sure if that was even implied by your post.
I am not a fan of steroid use as a way of leapfrogging progress. I am not necessarily against it, but as a person who believes "it's the journey, not the destination," it's tough for me to see steroids as anything other than a way of cheating yourself out of personal learning.
As a guy I think my ideal would be somewhere around the Reynolds muscle/body fat. I also gotta say I am a fan of toned women. Not bulky, but enough that they are obviously into fitness.
To each their own
Honestly, I've noticed that women are more attracted to men that are comfortable with their body and confident about themselves. Working out and getting in shape is one thing, but some people take it too far due to inferiority complexes.
Well it depends. In my case, I haven't been able to bag girls because I tend to either cock block myself and don't put in a lot of effort into doing so. It doesn't help that I get anxious when it comes time to getting a woman's number. My looks certainly do attract women to me; I think that most women will want to get with me because of my body which isn't necessarily a bad thing, but the thought of it is a bit irksome. Like I've said in several threads before, I've been told that I'm gorgeous by women as well as had creepy people stalk me to tell me that I should be a model. I don't mean to brag because honestly, it's nothing; I suppose I'm not happy with my myself despite having the said physique. I'm indifferent to it. I'll also admit that I get a bit repulsed by scrawny guys as well.
My oldest brother just called me right now to say that he took a ton of protein powder from his job so he could get big. Since he reads GAF and knows who I am, I think he's naive and a bit of an idiot for a guy his age (26 going on 27). Guys, please don't be like my oldest brother and think that you have weigh a certain amount to be able to bag chicks. Be happy about the way you look; if you feel like you're out of shape then invest into a gym membership, work out, eat decently healthy, and get to a healthy weight but do it for yourself above all; women and everything else comes second. It's ultimately about feeling good in your own skin as well as being healthy (this also applies to gay guys as well I suppose).
lordfroakie
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Gaf isnt the best advice on "women" and "body image" :3
Trust me, I have the same problem at 5'11" and 135lbs.
From what I gather he was a formerly scrawny WoW nerd who turned himself into what you see in that picture.
Supposedly.
Chun-Li...hhhhhnnnnngggghhhhhhhhh
Escape Goat
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Guys with hot bodies that dont have a cute face negate the hot body. See: Carrot Top.
kitchenmotors
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This thread is... I just can't. Oh, you crazy straight guys!
Oh, you crazy straight guys!lordfroakie
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This thread is... I just can't.
Heh Im getting bi vibes from "straight" gaf :3
Escape Goat
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Hey now, let not poke fun at straight guys who are comfortable enough to look at the male body objectively. We should encourage this.
kitchenmotors
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Gurl, fist bump!
True dat, but I'd rather this be a discussion about penis size or something. This thread is useless.
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