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Halo |OT5| Believe, Again
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TS x Massacre
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Yeah, the thing that I found slow about it was how long of pauses inbetween action there were. Like I mentioned above, there was a point from 6:55-7:55 on Haven with Neighbor where he only got into two encounters.
It looked like it improved as player's learned the maps though in the last series. So we'll just have to see.
Demoncarnotaur
Member
Well, I enjoyed the footage. Like, a lot.
Still watching actually. I do agree it looks a little like Reach, if Reach played more like Halo. So yeah, its kinda like Halo 3 meets Reach, but I liked it. Movement looked nice and slick (kinda wish it were a pinch faster), gunplay looked fantastic.
Im bummed that we have seen nothing at all of Longbow. =(
Still watching actually. I do agree it looks a little like Reach, if Reach played more like Halo. So yeah, its kinda like Halo 3 meets Reach, but I liked it. Movement looked nice and slick (kinda wish it were a pinch faster), gunplay looked fantastic.
Im bummed that we have seen nothing at all of Longbow. =(
Deadly Cyclone
Pride of Iowa State
Ah, that makes more sense. I agree there. I think 343 wanted all of this testing to help finalize the little tidbits that we're all discussing, so I can't wait to see what the final game plays like.
I wonder what the other 7 maps are like. I'm really hoping for a jungle map.
Sikamikanico
#1 Dad
I'm sold. Looks like really great fun. 
I was sold on Halo 4 the moment i saw the E3 trailer.
VivaciousJazzy
Member
Well I liked what I saw
Its just really different.
Its just really different.
Brolic Gaoler
formerly Alienshogun
Wow this looks REALLY good, I really like what I'm seeing.
Frank, didn't you guys say you were going to discuss specializations this week? (in regard to the LE?)
I don't think any light has been shed on those.
Thanks!
Frank, didn't you guys say you were going to discuss specializations this week? (in regard to the LE?)
I don't think any light has been shed on those.
Thanks!
TS x Massacre
Member
I'm sold, it looks like a lot of fun. I just have some minor concerns that could improve the overall experience if they were fixed.
But like they've said, this isn't anywhere near final build.
I'm still extremely pumped for November, i just want to blain kids.
But like they've said, this isn't anywhere near final build.
I'm still extremely pumped for November, i just want to blain kids.
OdysseusVA
Banned
May still be processing
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MGlwxFhHxPo
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MGlwxFhHxPo
Brolic Gaoler
formerly Alienshogun
I know it's a bit hard to hear the audio in game, but I"m already noticing you can't really hear player movement, bummer. I hope that's not final.
Deadly Cyclone
Pride of Iowa State
Demoncarnotaur
Member
Why does it sometimes sound like you are hit by a gravity hammer when you die? Is that the shield pop?
Steelyuhas
Member
My impressions is that team score is only 10 points added for a kill in BOTH infinity slayer and regular slayer. I only saw the score go up by 10 at a time even if a played got +5 for an assist or +15 or +20.
So it's just like COD in that scoring system. 10 points for a kill is the only thing that adds to the team score, but you get individual scores as well, and that's where you get all your bonus points for assists, headshots, double kills, killing sprees, etc.
Biggest-Geek-Ever
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At the risk of getting persecuted, I've always been bored to tears watching Halo multiplayer, even on the highest, most pro level (this applies to virtually any shooter though). So these videos don't really do a whole lot for me, but they did alleviate some fears I had about the ordnance drops.
bobs...onGaf
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Im worried about promethean vision, in the video im watching right now the dude is able to dominate people because he can turn it on and knows where to run, it does not seem like it gives any sort of indication to people that you have been spotted and that was confirmed by the 343 dude. Apparently the visual cue will be a light coming out of the visor? That wont be enough if people abuse it by hiding behind walls with it.
RebornYeti
Member
Nope, I'm there with you. I love most of what I'm seeing. Rockets need some adjusting, and PV needs so nerfing, but overall I'm way excited.
TS x Massacre
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Right, a lot of things they said are in the game aren't in this build which puzzles me.
I wish we could've got a glimpse of an objective game, those can sometimes be more fast-paced than slayer because they force players into certain areas.
Infinity slayer certainly looks like a lot of FUN.
Best mode for competitive play? perhaps not, but definitely a fun mode.
Don't see how people can complain about kill times when I've seen people getting face melted by the carbine a few times in these.
Strafe looks really fast, dev comm #3 6:20~
Best mode for competitive play? perhaps not, but definitely a fun mode.
Don't see how people can complain about kill times when I've seen people getting face melted by the carbine a few times in these.
Strafe looks really fast, dev comm #3 6:20~
Garrett 2U
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I wonder how Promethean vision would work if it blurred as you move or rotate.
The ability to fully fight someone while in p-vision is kinda rediculous.
The ability to fully fight someone while in p-vision is kinda rediculous.
Blue Ninja
Member
Well, my store has pre-order DLC up but still no LE.
Deadly Cyclone
Pride of Iowa State
It almost seemed like a hindrance in the video to fight with it on. Kind of like Batman AA and the Batvision.
I wonder if it would work better as one pulse, as opposed to a vision mode. Where you hit it, it pulses out and you can see people, then it shuts off. Have a quicker cooldown, but then people using it couldn't track movements, they could see where enemies were though.
electricpirate
Member
Shooting looked good
Personal randomized ordinance drops looked terrible
Love the new speedboost powerup
Carbine looked awesome
Good to see the pro's miss, hopefully the AA is about in line with Halo 3.
Magnum looked like a tasty little sidearm, even at full bloom.
Personal randomized ordinance drops looked terrible
Love the new speedboost powerup
Carbine looked awesome
Good to see the pro's miss, hopefully the AA is about in line with Halo 3.
Magnum looked like a tasty little sidearm, even at full bloom.
xxjuicesxx
Member
Well what I see is slow Halo 3 gameplay, not the speed. The game, the refresh rate or framerate or something. Its slow like 3, Not quick agile gameplay like a H2 or Reach speed.
I hear the sound of pennies being thrown at metal window blinds.
I see overshield that made dude like invulnerable...
I see bad kids who are supposed to be good...
and whys it so slow?!
oh and I saw a bunch of shitty nades go in bad directions or hit walls and do dumb things.
I hear the sound of pennies being thrown at metal window blinds.
I see overshield that made dude like invulnerable...
I see bad kids who are supposed to be good...
and whys it so slow?!
oh and I saw a bunch of shitty nades go in bad directions or hit walls and do dumb things.
What? First time I've heard quick and agile be used in the same sentence as Reach.
h2 and h3 foot-speeds are almost the same if you actually test it.
Not sold on the BR sound, maybe it is getting weirdly compressed since its online video; missing bass, etc. All the other weapons sound great.
ViewtifulJC
Banned
Dev commentary #3, 8 min mark. Moves pretty damn fast, you reload faster, shot speed is still the same
What video were you watching?
TS x Massacre
Member
Sounds about right.
Idk, my biggest qualm is it doesn't "look" like shots are hitting, it's hard to describe.
HigherLevel
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Only thing I don't like in those vids is the personal ordinance drops, but I'm glad it's only in Infinity Slayer.
xxjuicesxx
Member
foot speed isnt necessarily the same thing as gameplay speed. its like the time actions take. makes the gameplay speed fast or slow. H2 everything was agile quick. Reach wasnt as bad as a culprit. H3 was the worst culprit. This game appears to be in between Reach and 3.
TS x Massacre
Member
Exactly, it looks like it never lands or something. It's strange.
The carbine/DMR combo looks like it's going to be my loadout with firepower tactical package.
ViewtifulJC
Banned
I concur with TS x Massacre on that, and the slow kill speed does it no favorites. I probably wouldn't use the BR in it's current state outside nostalgia.
The Carbine looked sweet, though.
Yeah, there's something wrong with the BR, it misses way too often, seemingly anyway.
Which is a shame, i really love how the BR looks in Halo 4 and would like to use it. Hopefully this is fixed for the final build
And hopefully the Carbine is truly a viable alternative for it in the final build, unlike in Halo 3 (where it was effect in CQB but BR was overall a lot better).
Understandable. Kill times in H2 were very fast; but it also had massive amounts of aim assist and magnetism on the BR; and the sniper shot about as fast as you could pull the trigger.
H4 stuff looks pretty fast to me so far, these guys aren't super familiar with the game or the weapons; I can only imagine they would be much faster and better after a short while.
That's like faster than quake 3 speed. You think kill times are slow now? lol.
HigherLevel
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From what I can tell it looks like there's way less auto-aim and that's part of why the're missing so many shots. I mean, I know a couple people who had impressions from E3 said there was noticeably less auto-aim.
That should be the default speed.
And also, looks like the DMR's bloom isn't just to indicate rate of fire. It appears that you can fire when the reticle's expanded to the outer circle. Still not nearly as much as Reach's.
Looks the same for the pistol as well.
Looks the same for the pistol as well.
I definitely bet it gets upped before launch. These guys playing are pros, and they're missing a ton.
I got my hands on a Rocket Launcher exactly once, on Longbow.
I managed to pull 4 kills with it - it's definitely a slower-moving projectile than Reach, but it's still pretty powerful.
David Ellis explained that the E3 build didn't have it, but that it would be in the final product. (Blueblur's comment was in reference to the fact that only the primary weapon was showing in the hud.)
I watched several games on Longbow - Sniper and Rockets both spawned at the start of the game. I'm pretty sure this is completely configurable.
Would it really be a bad thing if a 5sk was a difficult thing to achieve?
xxjuicesxx
Member
Well everyone knows less auto aim = better on consoles. Not like were restricted to shitty controllers anymo....oh wait yes we still are...yes we still cant use keyboard/mouses on a microsoft console...
I really hope not. Pro players should be missing shots because they're playing against other pro players; movement and evasion is a skill as well.
ViewtifulJC
Banned
I'll tell you what though, I'm pretty ok with Infinity gametypes. Maybe not the most balanced, competitive gametype in the world, but I think it's gonna be a lot of fun, and if it becomes the standard for Halo 4 playlists, I think I can adapt.
My biggest complaint is still the mismatch of big maps with 4v4 encounters. Pray to Frankie there's a 5v5/Squad Slayer variant at launch so I can shoot people more then just every 20 odd seconds.
My biggest complaint is still the mismatch of big maps with 4v4 encounters. Pray to Frankie there's a 5v5/Squad Slayer variant at launch so I can shoot people more then just every 20 odd seconds.
If professional videogame players are taking 6, 7, or 8 bursts to kill with it, I'd say there's some kind of problem.
edit: Then again, that could easily be because they're not used to the game overall. I can't really say obviously, lol.
HigherLevel
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haha what does this mean? I've seen you post it multiple times now.
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