I figured. I'm not going to be able to use LLE (or whatever it's called) for audio unfortunately, I already tried that. Is it a bottleneck in that I can't raise certain (non-graphics) settings up, or will it cause problems even using settings best suited to performance? Or more worrisome, will using higher graphics settings also strain the CPU?
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Dolphin - Emulating Wii and Gamecube Games
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I figured. I'm not going to be able to use LLE (or whatever it's called) for audio unfortunately, I already tried that. Is it a bottleneck in that I can't raise certain (non-graphics) settings up, or will it cause problems even using settings best suited to performance? Or more worrisome, will using higher graphics settings also strain the CPU?
Only HLE/LLE and hacks will alter CPU demand. Graphics settings should be GPU only.
So, if you want to have an idea how well games could potentially run, turn down the resolution/AA/AF way down and see if you can get decent performance. If turning up the graphics settings from there slows down your game, then you'd benefit from a better GPU.
It's very game specific...some games demand a ton of CPU power to run properly.
I'd say you need a new processor to play Wii/GC games at any reasonable speed.
Anyone have a good starting point for Xenoblade configuration? Are there any hacks that I should be on the look out for (like the Zelda text speed increase) that will improve the general experience when I play?
Booted it up and was pleased with the performance at 2x internal resolution, but I think my system can do better. Xbox360 controller worked like a charm though, just need to map it better tonight.
Booted it up and was pleased with the performance at 2x internal resolution, but I think my system can do better. Xbox360 controller worked like a charm though, just need to map it better tonight.
Cuban Legend
Member
Okay after those E3 conferences I'm done with console gaming and I'm ready to make the jump to the master race.
What do I need to play this at 60 fps?
A fucking budget the size of NASA, jk... scroll up a bit and you'll have some suggested rigs.
BlackBeetleKing
Neo Member
ssbb with new characters
Train of Midnight
Banned
Is there a guide for adding characters to SSBB?
ss_lemonade
Member
I don't think the GPU overclock is necessary. A stock 570 is more than capable enough for that resolution.
From what I remember, Xeno ran pretty good too for me with LLE using a 2500k @ 4.5.
More and more I found few reasons to play my consoles (I have all 3 of them). Multiplat looks much better on PC, Dolphin looks fucking amazing, and the same for the PS2.
I bought 10 PS2 RPGs that I missed last gen to play on my PS3, but then... viewing all these screens just makes me sad... really.
I bought 10 PS2 RPGs that I missed last gen to play on my PS3, but then... viewing all these screens just makes me sad... really.
XiaNaphryz
LATIN, MATRIPEDICABUS, DO YOU SPEAK IT
I also have AA cranked up quite a bit though. Just forgot to mention it.
Theonik
Member
Even with relatively high AA you shouldn't have issues. My stock 560Ti can handle full AA on DX11 fine and 9xSSAA on DX9.
PeterVenkman
Member
i'm having problems pairing up 2 real wii remotes, any tips?
I can run dolphin with 2 xbox controllers and 1 wiimote. Xbox controllers on slots 1-2, wiimote in slot 3 . When i go for the second in slot 4 it says i have two paired up, but then during gameplay the fourth controller works but not the third.
also when i click refresh, despite each wiimote showing up in a different slot, both vibrate.
I can run dolphin with 2 xbox controllers and 1 wiimote. Xbox controllers on slots 1-2, wiimote in slot 3 . When i go for the second in slot 4 it says i have two paired up, but then during gameplay the fourth controller works but not the third.
also when i click refresh, despite each wiimote showing up in a different slot, both vibrate.
Yoshi
Headmaster of Console Warrior Jugendstrafanstalt
My sister's boyfriend has birthday in a week and I was thinking about giving him Pikmin 1 as a present. He loves strategy games but he has most he finds interesting on a PC already. Also, he doesn't have a GameCube, nor a Wii. So I (as someone who only plays on consoles) have a few questions to NeoGAFs PC-experts:
1. Does Dolphin run Pikmin?
2. If yes: Can someone give me a guide to recommended settings / tell me what to do to get it running?
3. Can he play from the original disc or do I have to rip it somehow? Being a present, I'd really prefer if it was possible to play it off the original disc, else it feels a bit like an illegal copy imo.
4. Will a gaming-laptop of one year (playing for example Fifa 12 flawlessly) suffice?
5. Should I go for GCN or Wii version of Pikmin?
1. Does Dolphin run Pikmin?
2. If yes: Can someone give me a guide to recommended settings / tell me what to do to get it running?
3. Can he play from the original disc or do I have to rip it somehow? Being a present, I'd really prefer if it was possible to play it off the original disc, else it feels a bit like an illegal copy imo.
4. Will a gaming-laptop of one year (playing for example Fifa 12 flawlessly) suffice?
5. Should I go for GCN or Wii version of Pikmin?
EatChildren
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No. The game will need to be ripped.
chaosblade
Unconfirmed Member
I can't really answer the other questions, but he would need a Wii to rip the game. There are very, very, very few PC drives that can read Wii and GCN discs, and all of them are really old and not especially common.
And laptops are generally poor fits for emulation, at least with PS2/GCN games. Emulation relies heavily on pure clock speed, even with desktops you need to overclock to 3.5GHz or higher for some games, and that's just not feasible with a laptop.
Regarding compatibility (looked it up), Pikmin 1 is compatibile for both Wii and GCN, and Pikmin 2 GCN is compatible, but all three require LLE audio to avoid sound and music glitching. LLE audio is very CPU intensive, I wouldn't expect a laptop CPU to be able to run it properly in most cases, unless it's a quad core and the game supports a dedicated LLE core well (some do, some don't).
Yoshi
Headmaster of Console Warrior Jugendstrafanstalt
As it has to be ripped to be playable, I'll of course rip it for him. If I can get the specifications, would you be able to estimate if the game would run properly or if it's better not to bother? Sorry, I'm really not an expert in judging gaming-hardware for PCs...
chaosblade
Unconfirmed Member
It would really only help in the case you can find someone who has attempted it. Dolphin's (and PCSX2's) "system requirements" are all over the place and vary significantly depending on the game. Dealing with emulation is very different than normal PC games.
Tough to judge based on the Wiki page exactly what he'd need. Less than 2.5GHz seems too slow for proper sound and having lots of Pikmin at once at the very least, and with a laptop I kind of doubt he's going to have anything much faster than that, if at all.
Tough to judge based on the Wiki page exactly what he'd need. Less than 2.5GHz seems too slow for proper sound and having lots of Pikmin at once at the very least, and with a laptop I kind of doubt he's going to have anything much faster than that, if at all.
Fantastical
Death Prophet
Is there no way to easily rip Gamecube games? 
I have homebrew installed on my Wii and I can rip Wii games, but that doesn't work with Gamecube games does it?
I have homebrew installed on my Wii and I can rip Wii games, but that doesn't work with Gamecube games does it?XiaNaphryz
LATIN, MATRIPEDICABUS, DO YOU SPEAK IT
Is there no way to easily rip Gamecube games?
http://wiibrew.org/wiki/CleanRip
BlackBeetleKing
Neo Member
GC Pikmin
Pikmin 2
Pikmin 2
Black_Stride
do not tempt fate do not contrain Wonder Woman's thighs do not do not
Anyone tried Pandoras Tower, i never heard of this game, but the guy at the store said it was part of the Last Story, Xenoblade JRPG localization campaign or whatever.
I loved Xenoblade and The Last Story so i too the chance on this, I like the voice action, and the cahracter models are pretty damn good(the rest of the game is ugly though).
I though Dolphin would aliviate that ugliness but i cant seem to get this game to run at 100%.
It drops to ~20fps every few minutes and pretty much every time i swing my sword....very annoying.
IF anyone has settings or dolphin version suggestions im all ears.
I really want to enjoy this game.
P.S The Control Scheme is fun as fuck.
P.P.S Favorite part of the game so far.:
I loved Xenoblade and The Last Story so i too the chance on this, I like the voice action, and the cahracter models are pretty damn good(the rest of the game is ugly though).
I though Dolphin would aliviate that ugliness but i cant seem to get this game to run at 100%.
It drops to ~20fps every few minutes and pretty much every time i swing my sword....very annoying.
IF anyone has settings or dolphin version suggestions im all ears.
I really want to enjoy this game.
P.S The Control Scheme is fun as fuck.
P.P.S Favorite part of the game so far.:
MatthewB92
Member
Testing NSMBWii on this.
Frames drop randomly but 60 is the norm. Couple of audio problems though when I launch it through steam so I won't be doing that again.
Frames drop randomly but 60 is the norm. Couple of audio problems though when I launch it through steam so I won't be doing that again.
Hero of Legend
Member
GC Pikmin
Textures are definitely better in Pikmin 3, besides the camera is prety far away so you won't notice imperfections much anyway.
Also, has anyone done Spyborgs yet? Would love to see that in crisp 720p/1080p w/ AA.
Dash Kappei
Not actually that important
Any progress on running Rebel Strike?
masterkajo
Member
I did play Pikmin New Control on dolphin last week and it ran fine apart from when Olimar went in water. Lots of slowdown there (~12 fps instead of solid 30 fps). Still one of my favorite games on GC and even better with the wiiremote.
Fantastical
Death Prophet
darkpaladinmfc
Member
Is there any fix for the background music from cutting out in RE4 after a few minutes of play?
XiaNaphryz
LATIN, MATRIPEDICABUS, DO YOU SPEAK IT
Are you running HLE or LLE?
yes it needs the 30 fps patch.
Fantastical
Death Prophet
I should finally be getting into Dolphin this week if my PC build goes successfully. This has been a long time coming, and I've been going crazy over these screenshots for a while now.
jediyoshi
Member
Gecko codes.
They are sharpened to hell creating some really ugly edges that contrast against the low res ground.
It's BlackBeetleKing. He's become sort of an institution in this thread, hasn't he?
darkpaladinmfc
Member
Background music cuts out on both for me, but on HLE I also get weird scratching noises sometimes.
Anyone tried Pandoras Tower, i never heard of this game, but the guy at the store said it was part of the Last Story, Xenoblade JRPG localization campaign or whatever.
I loved Xenoblade and The Last Story so i too the chance on this, I like the voice action, and the cahracter models are pretty damn good(the rest of the game is ugly though).
I though Dolphin would aliviate that ugliness but i cant seem to get this game to run at 100%.
It drops to ~20fps every few minutes and pretty much every time i swing my sword....very annoying.
IF anyone has settings or dolphin version suggestions im all ears.
I really want to enjoy this game.
P.S The Control Scheme is fun as fuck.
P.P.S Favorite part of the game so far.:
I beat the game a couple of days ago using Dolphin-3.0-631-gec0ddb4_L102_x64_ICC build.
Ran at full speed no problem at all with FPS drops. I did OC my core i5 760 up to 3.6ghz
MatthewB92
Member
Next tests are Xenoblade and Pikmin 2. Now I just have to order them first lol.
jediyoshi
Member
Looks like there's a branch of Dolphin that's picking back up Triforce support. This'll be interesting.
Such is the way of life.
Such is the way of life.
It's such a shame that Nintendo didn't use the Wind Waker engine for Zelda Wii.Fantastic experience so far.
Really, though, how much is worth playing on Triforce? Mario Kart Arcade GP sort of sucks and F-Zero AX is just GX in arcade form.