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[SonnyBoy]

Since someone asked...


It's understandable to have a 6 year old at the movie theater, during summer for a cool treat.

However, I child that is only a few months old is a different story. They cry often, can be easily disturbed, they feed often. You and your child would be a huge hindrance to others experience. I think it's selfish to take a child that young to a movie theater.

If I can't find a sitter for my baby girl (4 months), I don't go to the movies. That simple.

 

[ElectricBlue187]

These type of posts are completely stupid, inappropriate, and add absolutely nothing to the discussion but a warped sense of victim blaming.

Truth. Make it happen.

If you have an urge to type something that judges someone who just lost a loved one to this tragedy, take a moment and ask yourself why you are an asshole.

come into thread
read single post
comment without reading any of the others

rinse and repeat

 

[Imbarkus]

Please shut the fuck up.

Any discussion criticizing parents over this should be auto perma ban.

Truth. Make it happen.

If you have an urge to type something that judges someone who just lost a loved one to this tragedy, take a moment and ask yourself why you are an asshole.

 

[echoshifting]

OK, pulling cops away from apartment window.

No one dead. Whew.

That is really good to hear.

I'm so relieved nobody walked in there blind.

edit: the pro/con parenting back and forth is consuming this entire thread and really needs to stop.

 

[LordAlu]

Update:

Police are attempting to determine how to disarm "flammable or explosive" material in suspected shooter's flat. Police have taken photographs of the inside via the window. Explosive system appears to be "sophisticated".

 

[Wiz]

Earlier I heard some news outlets reporting that this was not an act of terrorism. Might be a dumb question but how is this NOT an act of terrorism?

 

[Demoncarnotaur]

I just found out about this, this is horrible. =(

 

[Measley]

I plan to see TDKR tonight. I really hope there isn't some copycat out there trying to go down in a blaze of glory.

BTW, how did this guy even get inside the theatre in riot gear armed to the teeth? Did the people in the theatre think he was dressed up or something?

 

[Plasmid]

where are you watching this?

MSNBC has a helicopter showing the apartment.

I plan to see TDKR tonight. I really hope there isn't some copycat out there trying to go down in a blaze of glory.

BTW, how did this guy even get inside the theatre in riot gear armed to the teeth? Did the people in the theatre think he was dressed up or something?

it's assumed he went out an exit to one of the theaters and geared up.

 

[Shao Kahn Brewing a Stew]

Might be a dumb question but how is this NOT an act of terrorism?

Who said it isn't? Not a dumb question. It is cold blooded, calculated attack. It's the direct definition of terrorism.

 

[JumpingTheGun]

Yeah, I don't get this. Change of heart? Intimidation? I don't get it.

Or maybe he's just fucking crazy?

 

[ffdgh]

FBI confirms that James Holmes' apartment is "sophistically booby-trapped".

late but what the heck? Guy is nuts.

 

[legacyzero]

FBI confirms that James Holmes' apartment is "sophistically booby-trapped".

Holy shit.

 

[Wiz]

Who said it isn't?

The FBI

 

[Snakeyes]

Disgusting. What is the fucking point of doing this?

My deepest condolences to the victims' friends and families.

 

[Bollocks]

Earlier I heard some news outlets reporting that this was not an act of terrorism. Might be a dumb question but how is this NOT an act of terrorism?

no turban

 

[ChiTownBuffalo]

where are you watching this?

denver.cbslocal.com

 

[Hydrogen Bluebird]

What are the types of traps found in the shooter's apartment?

 

[Emerson]

Earlier I heard some news outlets reporting that this was not an act of terrorism. Might be a dumb question but how is this NOT an act of terrorism?

It is by definition, but the point of that statement is to say that this is not an act of "terrorism" as the US often knows it, i.e. Islamic radicals.

 

[Pimpwerx]

So, with all of this discussion about the parenting capabilities of people who brought children to the theater, I'm just really curious on something about this discussion.

What exactly is the point in this line of discussion? Are people just bringing up dubious parenting choices just for the sake of identifying up dubious parenting choices, or are they insinuating that the parents have some fault and role in the injuries and deaths of children due to the acts of a gunman (which no person could have reasonably expected)?

Most people hate kids in a theater, period. If you've ever been stuck with a crying baby, you'll understand. Frankly, it's rude. That said, it's got little bearing on this topic. It's just hard to overlook. PEACE.

 

[TS-08]

I plan to see TDKR tonight. I really hope there isn't some copycat out there trying to go down in a blaze of glory.

BTW, how did this guy even get inside the theatre in riot gear armed to the teeth? Did the people in the theatre think he was dressed up or something?

Right now it sounds like he propped open the emergency exit, got gear from his car, came back and started the attack.

 

[Angry Fork]

I can't believe there are people saying it's perfectly fine for a 6 year old to be at a midnight Batman showing.

:lol

A shame what happened to her though.

I was watching Terminator 2 at 6, it's really nobody's job except parents to be able to tell their children what they should/shouldn't watch.

And midnight is just a time of the day like any other, there's no special godly law that says children cannot be up at midnight. Are you people going to rage about parents bringing their 6 year old to times square on new years eve too if something bad happens?

If a child died it was not the parents fault it was the person who shot the gun and it ends there period.

 

[EYEL1NER]

People were wondering about the chemical exposure hospitalizations earlier and my speculation about it would be that most of them are probably not having any more severe a reaction than is usual to tear gas, but with an incident like this (and huge news coverage) the authorities want every victim evaluated to avoid the possibility of a severe reaction.

Make sense.
I kind of thought that could be the case but I didn't want to say anything that could be insinuated as me saying they were wimps to get admitted over tear gas exposure. And that got me wondering if there were more serious effects than I knew about that could occur.

If that is in fact the case for the people who have been admitted for chemical exposure, then that is good news as far as their health is concerned, because they shouldn't be at death's door or anything.

 

[Captain Tuttle]

Earlier I heard some news outlets reporting that this was not an act of terrorism. Might be a dumb question but how is this NOT an act of terrorism?

Doesn't terrorism by definition have to have a political "message"?

 

[Zee-Row]

I can see theaters changing their policys regarding people showing up to the theaters in costumes in the wake of this.

 

[TimeEffect]

Yes, they were injured but have been released from the hospital.

What the hell is a 3 month old doing there?

Did no on else own a gun to shoot back? There was a shooting here in Canada and I remember reading american comments about how we should be able to own a gun to defend ourselves.

Not trying to start anything at all, but lately Ive been conscious about American culture being so gun violent. We had shootings here in Canada for three straight days and it's a pretty big deal for us, yet our problems are almost nothing in some American cultures.

It's pretty sad to think we would need metal detectors or increased security just to see a movie, yet I know now many people would feel safer this way in the wake of these events.

 

[LordAlu]

The FBI

By affiliated to terrorism, they would mean to labelled terrorist groups such as Al-Qaeda. It is not considered a terrorist related attack as he acted on his own and is not affiliated with any terrorist organization.

 

[DrForester]

What are the types of traps found in the shooter's apartment?

they're not giving any information about it other than the traps exist.

 

[Plasmid]

Doesn't terrorism by definition have to have a political "message"?

ter·ror·ism

noun /ˈterəˌrizəm/ 

The use of violence and intimidation in the pursuit of political aims

 

[ATF487]

I stayed with some of my brother's friends in Aurora last summer, luckily I don't think they went to this

And no parent takes their kid to a midnight showing expecting something like this to happen. A curfew is irrelevant

 

[The Lamonster]

Most people hate kids in a theater, period. If you've ever been stuck with a crying baby, you'll understand. Frankly, it's rude. That said, it's got little bearing on this topic. It's just hard to overlook. PEACE.

The 'peace' thing really distracts me from taking any of your posts seriously.

 

[mescalineeyes]

I can see theaters changing their policys regarding people showing up to the theaters in costumes in the wake of this.

he came in after the movie was already on.

he probably would've just shot whoever wouldn't have let him in.

 

[demosthenes]

Earlier I heard some news outlets reporting that this was not an act of terrorism. Might be a dumb question but how is this NOT an act of terrorism?

Ah, above answered.

 

[Shao Kahn Brewing a Stew]

ter·ror·ism

noun /ˈterəˌrizəm/ 

The use of violence and intimidation in the pursuit of political aims

That's one definition; Here's more.

terrorism (ˈtɛrəˌrɪzəm)

— n
1. systematic use of violence and intimidation to achieve some goal
2. the act of terrorizing
3. the state of being terrorized

 

[ElectricBlue187]

I can see theaters changing their policys regarding people showing up to the theaters in costumes in the wake of this.

I work at a Police station and just overheard someone talking about this

 

[FyreWulff]

Not surprising. I forget the name for it, but him warning of the booby traps has been done before. When they finally arrested the BTK killer, the cops said the guy basically talked shop with them on the way to the jail and basically opened up to them like he was their buddy.

Also, I can't believe people are victim blaming. Had enough of that shit in the trafficking thread.

 

[mernst23]

Earlier I heard some news outlets reporting that this was not an act of terrorism. Might be a dumb question but how is this NOT an act of terrorism?

Well since muslim has become synonymous with terrorism in a majority of America, my interpretation of that statement was that he was confirmed not to be a practitioner of islam.

It's domestic terrorism and typical shithead american journalism.

 

[Plasmid]

We don't have a picture of holmes do we?

 

[echoshifting]

Doesn't terrorism by definition have to have a political "message"?

Or religious, or ideological

But yeah doesn't sound like any of that happened here. Most school shootings are not considered acts of terrorism, and this strikes me as being more closely related to that sort of massacre.

 

[Row]

Yeah, it is weird. One of the FBI was saying that it was all to extend his press coverage after the shooting was over, though I still don't understand why he would tell the police.

it's probably standard operating procedure, and the guy probably knew that

 

[ChiTownBuffalo]

Weird note, did this newscaster just say, "Police were disarming the window frame?"

 

[Ravensmash]

Yep, the parents of the 6 year old and the parents of the baby are two examples of how to be very bad parents.

That's it though, they're just bad parents. My sympathies still go out to the parents of the 6 year old who died, a terrible tragedy.

lol at very bad parents, what a horrible time to start throwing around accusations - I'm sure those grieving would love to hear your expert opinion on parenting pal.

 

[MThanded]

Besides that guy way earlier in this thread I don't think anyone is blaming the parent for getting their child shot.

Only people bringing that up seem to be people aiming to get others banned without reading posts.

People love to try and get others banned and riled up. At this point the people calling people "shitheads" and saying "shut the fuck up" are worse than the people talking about the parents.

However, lets move from the parenting discussion.

 

[tycoonheart]

Is this guy trying to act out what the Joker did in TDK?

Get himself captured and send the police out to a boobytrapped building?

 

[ElectricBlue187]

Not surprising. I forget the name for it, but him warning of the booby traps has been done before. When they finally arrested the BTK killer, the cops said the guy basically talked shop with them on the way to the jail.

Also, I can't believe people are victim blaming. Had enough of that shit in the trafficking thread.

NOBODY IS VICTIM BLAMING READ THE THREAD ffs

 

[Volimar]

Doesn't terrorism by definition have to have a political "message"?

Yeah. I don't want to get in an argument of what the word terror means, but we don't know his motivations. And until we do we can't call it an act of terrorism. He may have simply wanted to kill as many people as possible, not to make a political statement, or to instill terror, but because he wanted to kill people. Acts of mass violence aren't automatically terrorist acts.

 

[Dynamite Ringo Matsuri]

I can't believe this... its nuts cause I was talking to my cousin about being jealous of the midnight show goers too. This incident has absolutely tainted Tdkr for me, I will still see it, but my thoughts this weekend aren't going to be focused on the film, they'll be on this tragedy

 

[Wiz]

It is by definition, but the point of that statement is to say that this is not an act of "terrorism" as the US often knows it, i.e. Islamic radicals.

I was afraid it would be based on that. Seems like it.

Doesn't terrorism by definition have to have a political "message"?

True, but the FBI seemed so quick to dismiss any notion of terrorism. We don't even know the true motive yet.

 

[Smokey]

It's not about fear, personally. It's about listening to people describe someone walking the aisles of a movie theater and murdering people, in detail, and then sitting in the same kind of environment trying to be entertained. It's just too horrible, not too scary.

This . Fuck this has ruined my day since I heard about it. I almost feel sick. Everybody gas been to a theater. Imagining this happening is too much. I'm filled with rage and sadness for those involved and their families.

 

[Daydream Sequence]

I can't believe there are people saying it's perfectly fine for a 6 year old to be at a midnight Batman showing.

:lol

A shame what happened to her though.

It's summer. It's Batman. A bad parent would be someone that willingly takes their 6 year old to a theater they know is going to get shot up. A bad parent isn't someone that takes their 6 year old to a theater to watch Batman. Are parents that take their kids to New Years Eve parties where the kids in the basement are watching Batman moves also awful parents? Just shut up. For god's sake, shut the hell up. It's a shame that senseless tragedies lead to people saying such stupid shit.

What a terrible situation this is. I need to stop listening to the first-hand accounts. So much pain in their voices.