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Banned
Briefly might be difficult..
They've compiled a long list of shit behavior.
and yet Valve is still going to work with them.
because... LOL.
I think I officially hate Valve right now.
Briefly might be difficult..
They've compiled a long list of shit behavior.
and yet Valve is still going to work with them.
because... LOL.
I think I officially hate Valve right now.
Oh wow, the .exe for Big Rigs(Sergey was a producer/programmer) on that is named CarZ.
and yet Valve is still going to work with them.
because... LOL.
I think I officially hate Valve right now.
I hope that when they realize that they're just a bunch of unprofessional and amateurish developers they'll just look to the other way and wait for DayZ.
"We also want to extend our apologies to all players who misread infromation [sic] about game features."
http://forums.thewarz.com/showthread.php?79251-Steam-purchase-page-issues
What the goddamned frothfoaming fuck? Players didn't "misread" inFROMation about game features; the features that were listed were hilariously false exaggerations or outright lies.
Steam redeems its shot reputation...mostly.
and yet Valve is still going to work with them.
because... LOL.
I think I officially hate Valve right now.
Looks like a joke to me. But hey, at least they can say that the game has been in development since 2003!
Do you apply similar standard to brick and mortar businesses or just valve/digital distribution? The game is in a perfectly playable state, it's just the marketing that is misleading.Yeah this is a good step but it should never have gotten to this stage.
"Work with Them" is corporate saving face talk. Whole press release was crafted corporate PR which in short is "game shouldn't have been sold, refunds are allowed if you want it."
Highly doubt you'll see it back anytime soon, especially if Valve takes a financial hit for the refunds and bad press.
LMFAO!!"We also want to extend our apologies to all players who misread infromation [sic] about game features."
http://forums.thewarz.com/showthread.php?79251-Steam-purchase-page-issues
What the goddamned frothfoaming fuck? Players didn't "misread" inFROMation about game features; the features that were listed were hilariously false exaggerations or outright lies.
DayZ was that appealing. Market confusion at it's finest.Man watching that Totalbiscuit video and this game looks horrible, lol how was this a best seller?
Are zombies that appealing?
It's real. The actual executable file is named CarZ.
"We also want to extend our apologies to all players who misread infromation [sic] about game features."
http://forums.thewarz.com/showthread.php?79251-Steam-purchase-page-issues
What the goddamned frothfoaming fuck? Players didn't "misread" inFROMation about game features; the features that were listed were hilariously false exaggerations or outright lies.
Does that mean I can look forward to you keeping your knee jerk reactionary bullshit out of Valve threads in the future? *crosses fingers*
WarZ isn't coming back on Steam. You're taking PR at face value. They'll leave it up a bit and take the whole thing down when nobody cares anymore.Why do these mother fuckers get a second chance when Valve hasn't given certain devs a first chance? Why isn't Valve refunding everyone and refusing to let the game back on the service? It's not like refusing even good games onto Steam would be unusual behavior for them.
Why are they making it so people have to ask for refunds? Because they don't want everyone to get refunded, and they hope the game comes back. Why is the game still listed in the store?
EURGH.
The developers already have a game on Steam. That's how they can get the facetrack to being accepted. They could have agreed to add it to Steam long before Greenlight, you don't know that this is some conspiracy to keep indie devs down or whatever you seem to believe this is.I think you're confusing me for someone else. I barely post in steam threads.
Valve are still forcing good finished games to fight it out in project greenlight. Until that gets fixed, am I just supposed to sit on my hands? Knee jerk reactionary bullshit? This shit has been going on for months and continues to go on. How many months does it need to go on for before I'm allowed to react to it?
I don't even really know who you are...
Are you the guy who's calling Amir0x a fag?I've just registered on their forums, stay tuned
A bunch of drug addicts and drunk drivers?Unfortunately they've already proven quite skilled at using bad PR to their advantage. They are like the Lindsay Lohan of the game industry.
It's real. The actual executable file is named CarZ.
Do you apply similar standard to brick and mortar businesses or just valve/digital distribution? The game is in a perfectly playable state, it's just the marketing that is misleading.
why are they giving these shits the benefit of the doubt? why are they eager for such a piece of shit blatant rip off to join Steam when there are critically praised completed PC games they won't let on?
WHY WHY WHY?
I think this is what a meltdown must feel like.
I want this game so bad. It would hang on my wall next to my Daikatana box.
Not seeing it on eBay and $69.99 is a little too high.
Why aren't these critically praised games able to attract enough support on Project Greenlight to be approved on their own merits?
Not only have you blatantly mislead consumers, you are now publicly offering a back-handed apology as some form of compensation?
War Z has been advertised with several features that are clearly not present in the product:
- Each world has areas between 100 to 400 square kilometres (False)
- You can also rent and create public or private servers (False)
- Gain experience points and spend it to learn dozen of available skills (False)
- Two modes of play: Normal and Hardcore (False)
- Up to 100 players per game server (False)
The above is not a case of 'misreading' or a 'miss-interpretation', it's text written in plain English.
To insult the general public and suggest that we are incapable of reading, something that is simple (irrelevant of translation), is a disgrace.
A gaming community is built around one thing, the developers interaction and communication with their (paying) customers. If you think for one second your attitude will act as some form of seasonal good will, think again.
Is it better to handle these seemingly very rare situations ex-ante or ex-post? The former means approval processes get even longer, strict and costly while the latter just means Valve will issue refunds when necessary and possibly blacklist the developersAs a customer I want to feel confident when browsing Steam I'm getting appropriate information. Also am more likely to buy things if I can trust what am buying, Steam should be pushing quality to the front of their store.
The game is a con. As a customer it pisses me off.
Its not in a playable state and the marketing is pretty much fraudulent.
I'm not running to gaf every time I want to check a new game is fine to buy.
Steam has lost a lot of trust from me over this.
So yeah I apply this to all businesses. Am a fucking customer, my money isn't constant and its certainly not free.
Nice summary. Awesome to see it laid out like that. So completely and wholly ridiculous.I posted this, will probably be removed:
Something like WarZ would be Greenlighted faster than LaMulana due to a base higher interest level in the theme, style, and genre. Does that mean that a game like WarZ deserves a spot above LaMulana? Purely popularity and financially wise it may, but in terms of quality it doesn't. It is just a sea of grey.
I posted this, will probably be removed:
Is it better to handle these seemingly very rare situations ex-ante or ex-post? The former means approval processes get even longer, strict and costly while the latter just means Valve will issue refunds when necessary and possibly blacklist the developers
Man watching that Totalbiscuit video and this game looks horrible, lol how was this a best seller?
Are zombies that appealing?
Its clear Valve have no real approval service.
Bigger issue is the customer service. If this were a small game, no name stealing or idea rip offs. Gaf might not 100% notice or the internet might not get behind it entirely.
What does that mean? People could get fucked and be alone.
Thats an issue.
You claimed the game was playable, you know that to be bollocks.
I don't think its hard to expect some sort of approval system.
Plenty of other DL services for indie games to submit to and build a following on, which should enhance their chances for them getting Steam approval and reaching the mass audience. I still believe that audience interest should be a dominant factor in which games are given priority for Steam for 1st time developers, individual opinions on quality are always going to be variable. Project Greenlight can certainly do with tweaking, as can any service, but not getting immediate approval on Steam doesn't necessarily doom an indie game.
Why aren't these critically praised games able to attract enough support on Project Greenlight to be approved on their own merits?
Why are they making it so people have to ask for refunds? Because they don't want everyone to get refunded, and they hope the game comes back. Why is the game still listed in the store?
Because people can still play the game. People who still want it would complain about it being removed. You raise many an obvious question here.
I'm not sure why people are under the delusion that employees at Valve play and evaluate games on a meritocratic base before putting them on the store.not sure why it made it onto steam in the first place
They'd have their money back though. even if they complained there really wouldn't be an issue. 'sorry, the product was defective so we had to remove it until it was fixed. here is your money back in the meantime'. I can't see there being any issues with that. It wouldn't be Valve's fault that the game wasn't 'finished' yet would it?