Shao Kahn Brewing a Stew
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Some things here aren't accurate at all but I won't say which ones
Ugh! :<
We need a perfect summary, man! Fix it!
Durango related or Orbis related?
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[Eurogamer\DF] Orbis Unmasked: what to expect from the next-gen PlayStation.
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Ugh! :<
We need a perfect summary, man! Fix it!
KillerMan91
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7900 GT: Pretty much the GPU of PS3 and high end GPU of its time
Geforce 680GTX: Modern high end GPU
There is your answer why we don't get high end GPUs anymore in consoles.
Cramoss
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Some things here aren't accurate at all but I won't say which ones
lherre
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(Today, 03:56 PM)
You were asking for it.
McHuj
Member
Some things here aren't accurate at all but I won't say which ones
For which platform? Both? Come on, man!
It's hard to say exactly how good or bad 1.6GHz is at this point, since Jaguar is a revamped architecture that hasn't been released in any consumer products yet. Apart from that, we had another thread on this topic where TheExodu5 explained how having a more cores at a lower clock speed could be more desirable in a next-gen console.
Yes, the 7970m is a binned 7870.
of course
Only "minor" details need to be changed.
But of course the "special sauce" inside of both machines is unknown.
mugurumakensei
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Not true, the efficiency of multi-core processors depends on the controller responsible for delegating tasks. A GPU has a huge number of units to do floating point calculations. It doesn't lose its efficiency as we keep increasing the number.
Please let it be next month for the unveiling.
Then come E3 for the games. Then 4Q release.
DO IT SONY.
Then come E3 for the games. Then 4Q release.
DO IT SONY.
LmaoOH YES BABY......
.....Gimme some of dem specs
Remember the GPU is based on the info that Orbis is using 18 compute units at 800MHz, but all of that power is used almost exclusively for games. We've also got the additional GPU compute module and the idea it could be used to by devs to add a little oomph to the system.
So,
PS4 = a pricey powerhouse
Durango = a balanced machine but probably with Kinect, Windows 8 and a ton of ads shoved in your face
If it turns out this way I'll go with PS4, if I've got the cash.
Yup. I'd be less worried if there were more games on the calendar.
PS4 = a pricey powerhouse
Durango = a balanced machine but probably with Kinect, Windows 8 and a ton of ads shoved in your face
If it turns out this way I'll go with PS4, if I've got the cash.
Yup. I'd be less worried if there were more games on the calendar.
Opus Angelorum
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There is going to be a lot of people arguing which is the better specification, but one thing is clear.
They both absolutely smoke the Wii U.
They both absolutely smoke the Wii U.
Karak
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Tools will most definantly come into play. As I have been saying before. The tools this gen will really need to be up to par.
Dude you could play an emulator of the WiiU playing and emulator of the Wii on either one of those
Goldenroad
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Basically someone tell me if those two consoles are going to be relatively "on par" with each other. As "on par" as the 360 and PS3 are anyway?
If one is significantly more powerful or weaker, would 3rd party developers not be more inclined to simply release games on the system with the larger install base if porting from one to the other becomes a process of basically remaking the whole game?
My concern is simply that someone is going to be getting the shaft from third parties if the consoles are not spec'd relatively similarly.
If one is significantly more powerful or weaker, would 3rd party developers not be more inclined to simply release games on the system with the larger install base if porting from one to the other becomes a process of basically remaking the whole game?
My concern is simply that someone is going to be getting the shaft from third parties if the consoles are not spec'd relatively similarly.
what is B, C, A? which one is which
Well yeah that was a given though.
You made that out with incomplete and just proven wrong rumored specs? Gratulations!
Shao Kahn Brewing a Stew
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Nintendo Wii U is a:
B) TOYOTA SUPRA 3.0 TURBO (156 mph)
The Playstation Orbis is a:
C) Zenvo ST1 (233 mph)
The Durango is a:
A) Bugatti Veyron Super Sport (267 mph)
mugurumakensei
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4 core instead of 8 core is my guess and possibly clock speed.
While it is sounding like PS4 will be the more expensive of the two, a lot will depend on just how much of a loss Microsoft and Sony are each willing to take on these. Hopefully we're not looking at a $200 gap between the cheapest models like 360 and PS3...
Naw. This is one large pool of very fast memory versus split pools of memory.
Kazuma Kiryu
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it's a ps360 vs wii situation all over again.
If you can say so, they aren't accurate in as much as:Some things here aren't accurate at all but I won't say which ones
a. Both consoles better specced than that summary
b. Orbis better specced than that summary
c. Durango better specced than that summary
d. Both consoles have weaker specs than that summary
e. Orbis has weaker specs than that summary
f. Durango has weaker specs than that summary
g. The specs are just "different" but should be comparable
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systemfehler
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Not here in the other threads - or here reccently lherre a few posts above ;-)
I just don't like that teasing but of course I respect if someone wants to do it. Sitting at the other end I would probably do the same but until then I am against it.
Karak
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And I am standing behind my source unless the UNIVERSE broke. And standing by the 1:1.5 for MS's OS. I would even be ok with 2 CPU's for the OS. But that is straight up overkill for what they have planned so far.
Oh I see. I will say one thing. I can't speak for others but there is some very real danger for some of these guys if they are NOT 2-3 steps removed from a company like some of us.
But yes teasing for teasing sake can get tiring. I can understand that.
On par sounds right, and I think they will be more similar to develop for than the 360 and PS3 were.
When people talks about next gen, WiiU doesnt need to be mentioned in the first place.
Deadpandas
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you can probably record gameplay clips and upload them to Youtube on the fly
Brilliant deduction.
The good news is that since every core is traditional, they'll be able to split out threads a lot easier than they would on the Cell or a GPGPU, where they'd have to rewrite anything getting tossed onto the SPUs.
I don't want to pay for a mechanical HDD. :/
Can Crusher
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ZombieSupaStar
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3 gb for a console os just seems bloated as hell...
Which is why I said "if" that turns out to be the case. Just speculation, like the article.
mugurumakensei
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Not really. The specs for orbis puts it at around 5x Wii U. The specs for Durango put it around 3-4x Wii U. Both are significantly smaller gaps than PS360 vs Wii.
Lambda Pie
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question? if rumours about the RAM are true, is it worth for MS to have twice the amount but slower?
What about Piledriver, though? Wasn't it a possibility that Orbis would use one of those?
Depends on what wacky, non-video-game stuff Microsoft plans to do with that absurd pile of RAM.
The only thing that sounds pricey in Orbis is the 4GB of GDDR5. The GPU sounds very modest and the CPU cores are derived from notebook jaguar cores. Nothing super pricey about that to be honest.
TheDrowningMan
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Nah, it'll come down to viability in the market place. PS3 has been a pain in the ass hence the marked inferiority of most third party games for the first few years, but the numbers added up.
dragonbane
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Jaguar is fine, but Sony should have went with 4 more powerful cores instead. Devs are so lazy they probably would have optimized their games for the lowest denominator and then Orbis would be the console with the inferior ports (at least for some time until devs take full advantage of 8 cores).
grimshawish
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PS3 seems a balances powerhouse so I question the price being relative to 720 frankly. 720 seems to have taken extra costs on board just for the OS and will cost money and power.
Who knows, but the PS3 is looking very well balanced on the face of it.
Agreed. But I'm happy if Sony is going to spend extra money on something it is for the ram.
$399 launch price seems reasonable enough.
Can Crusher
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It's awesome news that both consoles will be like that though.
Karak
Member
Its MS's way. They use esram or edram to offset just like the 360. We will see. Since there haven't been an overflow of complaints...I would assume for now no one is being bothered by it.
Zuhzuhzombie!!
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Don't even necessarily need a 680 do you? I have a 570 and can crank every game I have on full blast with negligible issues.
Nah, as I said minor details in bandwith for example, and obviously we will need more info about the rest of things inside the machine to have a better picture of it. It's not only components, buses, additional components, etc.