TheKaeptain
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The combat is anything but shallow.
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The combat is anything but shallow.
did you parry at all?
isnt that what it was in Bayo? its been a while. feels good to me.
It's perfect. The context sensitive stuff works great and if you use it early it still blocks, just not as well. Love how they didn't waste a button just for blocking.
Bayo parry is just forward as you get hit. I imagine they changed that in this to make it less easy to spam
There's more of an emphasis in MGR in defending/evading/countering, it's not a "combo game" like DMC. Even less an aerial combo game like DmC. It's very similar to Ninja Gaiden, strangely enough, considering PG's pedigree. You won't really find crazy combos and such here. If you expected Devil May Cry or the opportunity to create stylish combos and such then it may indeed feel shallow, but it's just a different game.
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Vilix
Unconfirmed Member
Wait, PSN members can't play the demo yet? OMG! That is just ridiculous.
SolidSnakex
Member
I think that there will still be some nice combo videos that we see from this game. But yeah, it's definitely much more of a defensive-style game than a Bayonetta or DMC. It seems likely that you'll get a torn apart if you try to approach it like DMC where you're just on the attack at all times.
onimushroom
Member
I just played the DmC demo for the first time.
Unlike MGR:R, the DmC combat "clicked" with me too, as I wanted to get better at it (the platforming sucked though, for both of them).
oh yeah, thats right. this is very similar though. feels like similar timing. feels great.
that dog boss is straight out of Bayo stylistically. this is very Platinum.
this game is going to be awesome.
This is the NG3 we deserved. Definitely agree. It's like comparing Marvel to Street Fighter.
I don't think there will be anything. The ZOE demo got zilch.
Dyni Crippler
Member
This really hyped me, since I always liked NG more and thought DmC was pretty mediocre. Can't wait for the demo to pop up on PSN.
The One Who Knocks
Member
The demo is still downloading for me but that is very, very encouraging to hear (as are the rest of the impressions which I have, admittedly, skimmed through). I apologise if it has been asked before (and mentioned) but are there various difficulty levels within the demo or is there only a single difficulty option for each of the three stages? I don't recall either Vanquish or Bayonetta's demo having an option to alter the difficulty so I presume that is the same for Metal Gear Rising
EDIT: Thanks Vilix! A very nice surprise (for me at least) as I've not seen it mentioned before so it should be interesting to see how the enemies react at different difficulty levels and if there's a significant change in their behaviour.
The mooks don't last long enough in this demo to make creating a combo video worth it. hopefully in the final game there will be some stronger goons to style upon.
It's obviously not going to be juggle crazy like DMC tho
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Vilix
Unconfirmed Member
Yes, there are varying difficulty levels.
EatChildren
Currently polling second in Australia's federal election (first in the Gold Coast), this feral may one day be your Bogan King.
Nearly every single person I've spoken to who has played the demo, mostly from ZoEHD, has noted how poorly the demo handles the natural learning curve and introduction of moves that you'd experience in the main game. In that there's a ton of shit you can do in the demo that it never bothers teaching, and so the combat system at first feels kinda weird.
SolidSnakex
Member
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=y2ttOXFsS8c
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iOxP7Twb5vA
Of course the moves are limited to those in the demo, but you can see the potential for some pretty creative combos once the full game is released and people start unlocking Raiden's full arsenal.
direct_quote
Member
I'm honestly waiting to see how the unique weapons come into play in spicing up the variety (played the demo with ZOE collection). Also the enemy AI feels pretty dumb at some times and not as aggressive as NG AI. I hope this changes at higher difficulties, but I just remember when playing NG:S enemies would always be on my ass. In this game only the geckos are kind of like that. Feels like the enemies aren't balanced for Raiden's fast movement like they are in NG.
Yeah I've seen those videos. I guess we'll see.
The Grim Heaper
Member
The combat feels really weird, but like other have said, it sorta just drops you onto your head and tells you to go. I want to see what the full game is like now, though.
... not really a big fan of Blade Mode, however. I can't seem to control it right.
... not really a big fan of Blade Mode, however. I can't seem to control it right.
PAULINK
I microwave steaks.
This is what I thought, my initial impressions were kind of week but near the end of the demo I got a better handle on how the game controls. I really want to like this game, so I won't give up on it!
Assuming platinum design philosophy, harder difficulties will probably see more aggressive enemies. Enemies took a huge step up with Bayonetta on harder difficulties.
I played the demo 10 times in a row, it was the feeling of "just one more time, I'll do better!" and this doesn't happen often to me with demos.
The game plays so differently when compared to Bayonetta & DMC, totally different approach on the battle and as jett already mentioned it's definitely closer to the first NG...takes some time to get used to the gameplay and controls/camera but when you get the rhythm of the game it gets fuckin' crazy and makes you feel like an unstoppable cutting machine! ^_^
BTW the graphics look much better than the videos we've seen and of course the 60fps look and feel amazing. Platinum = <3.
The game plays so differently when compared to Bayonetta & DMC, totally different approach on the battle and as jett already mentioned it's definitely closer to the first NG...takes some time to get used to the gameplay and controls/camera but when you get the rhythm of the game it gets fuckin' crazy and makes you feel like an unstoppable cutting machine! ^_^
BTW the graphics look much better than the videos we've seen and of course the 60fps look and feel amazing. Platinum = <3.
I was a little put off by the movement of Raiden. Might not be important to some, but it seemed to me like I was gliding along the floor. Very little tactile feedback with the steps Raiden takes. The weight of the character was solid enough, so I'm not sure how to articulate it.
Regardless, still looking forward to trying out the full game.
Regardless, still looking forward to trying out the full game.
Hehe
Bruce Lee Kicks
Member
Some of you guys should have more faith in Platinum.
Anyway, I spent a majority of my 1st playthrough "cutting at will," didn't expect Blade Mode to be that much fun.
Anyway, I spent a majority of my 1st playthrough "cutting at will," didn't expect Blade Mode to be that much fun.
Ugh PSN, UGH XBL Gold, the universe must want me to wait.
The game has always looked more NG than not. It's why I figured the flamewars in the previous Boss battle trailer thread silly. DmC and Rising can coexist with an entire peace, much like DMC and NG did. Day one on both of em.
The game has always looked more NG than not. It's why I figured the flamewars in the previous Boss battle trailer thread silly. DmC and Rising can coexist with an entire peace, much like DMC and NG did. Day one on both of em.
GayForMaster
Banned
Did the demo never come with ZoE in eu? Prepare to enjoy yourselves though, I had a blast with the demo. Played it probably 50 times.
direct_quote
Member
I think my problem is that blade mode feels like something left over from the previous game that just doesn't fit well with Platinum's style. I don't know if they kept it because it defined rising or because Konami wanted them too but I'd prefer the game a lot more without it.
No thanks.
I hate when people say shitty framerates aren't a nuisance. Just because you can put up with it doesn't mean others can (or should).
Can't wait to get home and download this, though.
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Retro_
Unconfirmed Member
Xander51
Member
Agreed. The tutorial only really covers the slicing mode, and the game itself is impressively complex and plays quite differently than the character action games I'm used to. I came away from the demo with mixed impressions, and unable to beat the section with all the rocket launcher guys and Metal Gears.
StalkerUKCG
Banned
Then don't use it. Its this games "hook" can you cop anything any way you want. I loved the demo and the blade feature was solid. It felt powerful.
The Xtortionist
Member
RE6 all over again...
yo_soy_el_topo
Member
Is there a block button as in bayonetta? Can't seem to find one.
ShockingAlberto
Member
I am relatively sure Bayonetta did not have a block button.
There was an item where you could push forward in to an enemy attack, though.
Snapshot King
Member
For the vast majority of the demo there's a prompt on screen telling you how to parry.
The long ass development time on this game and it has screen-tearing? Get the hell outta here with that garbage.
Blade time, or whatever the hell it's called, sucks. Why do I have to move the camera around with the left stick to get it to slice? It makes it awkward and the movement accelerates too fast or something. Feels janky.
Blade time, or whatever the hell it's called, sucks. Why do I have to move the camera around with the left stick to get it to slice? It makes it awkward and the movement accelerates too fast or something. Feels janky.
Dark Phoenix
Member
Edit: Misread the question...
I can't wait for the demo to drop.
I can't wait for the demo to drop.
ThankeeSai
Member
Didn't think this was out until the 23rd in UK?
I'm downloading it now on my 360.
*edit* nvm, just read previous page.
I'm downloading it now on my 360.
*edit* nvm, just read previous page.
Long ass development time?