So what HD titles have they made? Why are we supposed to listen to them on hardware when they're clearly Nintendo biased?Shin'en never bullshits though. Everything they said about Wii U has actually come true.
So what HD titles have they made? Why are we supposed to listen to them on hardware when they're clearly Nintendo biased?Shin'en never bullshits though. Everything they said about Wii U has actually come true.
It really depends on what type of exclusives the 720 and PS4 have. I have absolutely no interest in Microsoft or Sony's exclusives from the PS3 days, but Nintendo had by far the best exclusive lineup from last gen.
If the Microsoft and Sony exclusives are as weak as they were last gen, I can completely see myself sticking to Wii U+PC.
Karl Rove on election night level stuff at this point from the Nintendo faithful.
So.... No The Witcher 3 for WiiU?
You rather buy something with the potential to blow you away graphically than something that you know will have games you want to play and look good?
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It really depends on what type of exclusives the 720 and PS4 have. I have absolutely no interest in Microsoft or Sony's exclusives from the PS3 days, but Nintendo had by far the best exclusive lineup from last gen.
If the Microsoft and Sony exclusives are as weak as they were last gen, I can completely see myself sticking to Wii U+PC.
This X1000
The install base for the 360/PS3 is much larger than the last gen consoles ever were. I really just can't help but think that its going to be tough for developers to want to switch to the next gen for at least the first few years.
Why listen to anyone on hardware?So what HD titles have they made? Why are we supposed to listen to them on hardware when they're clearly Nintendo biased?
Lol, if you think the 360/PS3's exclusives were "weak" this gen, you should probably stick with Wii U+PC.
Why listen to anyone on hardware?
as we understand it, this crucial information simply wasn't available in Nintendo's papers, with developers essentially left to their own devices to figure out the performance level of the hardware.
Honestly, the port performance doesn't indicate much yet. We know the RAM bandwidth is an issue, but the likely culprit for poor port performance is the CPU. Without redesigning an engine to take proper advantage of the CPU, compromises will have to be made to retrofit it as it's a completely different architecture. Yeah, I believe it was a poor decision on Nintendo's part to choose an architecture that was so incompatible with current systems, but I don't think judging the capabilities of the system on these port efforts is fair at this time.
Yes people buy Nintendo consoles for Nintendo games, but your average gamer is going to expect some sort of parity that would come with a newer system. So far, Wii U doesn't have that parity and looks like it probably never will...
The Wii was really a bit of a lightning strike. The odd thing is, the whole reason Nintendo went the way they did with the Wii was to escape the "three very similar consoles" trend, so why they'd use the "Blue Ocean" mindset twice is beyond me.
Why listen to anyone on hardware?
Current generation console growth is going to stagnate. As new consoles are released with more capabilities, the most talented developers will move to the new systems to create better games that are more capable of carrying out their vision. As these more powerful consoles produce newer and better games -- visuals, gameplay, features -- you're going to have gamers move onto the newer platform. These newer platforms will be much more friendly and open to new games, and since a new release won't be competing with a library of hundreds of good to great games, they will have a higher chance of being a success.This X1000
The install base for the 360/PS3 is much larger than the last gen consoles ever were. I really just can't help but think that its going to be tough for developers to want to switch to the next gen for at least the first few years.
Are you ignoring games which are exclusive to PS3 and 360 (compared to PC and Wii U +etc)?
Weak in terms of quality,? Depends on tasteLol, if you think the 360/PS3's exclusives were "weak" this gen, you should probably stick with Wii U+PC.
i don't recall 'your average gamer' doing this with the wii. why now? simply because 'hd'?...
Weak in terms of quality,? Depends on taste
Weak in terms of sales? Definately.
Except this time it won't have the sales. Huge blunder by Nintendo.
Weak in terms of quality,? Depends on taste
Weak in terms of sales? Definately.
Lol, if you think the 360/PS3's exclusives were "weak" this gen, you should probably stick with Wii U+PC.
Moot point till Platinum gets their games on Steam. If not, one next gen console is a must.Probably, especially since with how popular Steam is now, we probably won't see that many games that are solely just PS4+720.
*Laugh at me, but I'm a student and have had significant costs lately.
Even from that standpoint, a lot of exclusives did quite well on PS360. Not as well as Nintendo games, but then again, Nintendo is one of the best developers in the world with some of the best IPs in the industry.Are you an investor or a gamer? What the fuck kind of argument is this.
Yeah, Microsoft kind of just... gave up around 2009-2010. Before that though, they released a ton of great exclusives (that mostly didn't do so well on the sales charts).PS3, once it hit 2008, had an great steak from 2008-2010 in terms of exclusives. But the two years prior to that, and the two years after that, PS3 was been weak as hell despite having a shit ton of exclusives.
And I was never at all interested in 360 exclusives. I never liked Halo or Gears of War, and I am not a big fan of simulation racers. 360 had an incredible first couple of years, but after that, for me anyways, I found myself mainly spending most of my time on Wii, PC, and DS/3DS/PSP.
Weak in terms of quality,? Depends on taste
Weak in terms of sales? Definately.
Moot point till Platinum gets their games on Steam. If not, one next gen console is a must.
Why are you bringing up the Wii? This is technology they're talking about.You cannot see how it might be easier for them to be excited about the hardware because they are coming off the paltry shit that is inside the Wii and 3DS? Come on, man. 360-level hardware for them is a whole new world.
WiiU doesn't have the same kind of appealing hook that the Wii, one that made people look beyond graphics.
Thraktor said:
- There are a total of 40 logical blocks on the GPU die, excluding memory and I/O. These seem to be composed of 25 different types.
- Digital Foundry claims that the GPU has a 320:16:8 core config. Even including the ROPs, ARM and DSP, this only accounts for 16 out of the 40 logical blocks on there, leaving the considerable majority of the GPU logic unexplained.
So WiiU won't be able to run any PS4/720 games like the Wii couldn't run PS3/360?
This was... pretty obvious, was it not? Surely nobody thought it would be able to keep up.
So I guess Nintendo diehard dudes now transition from "it isnt true" to "it dosn't matter" just like Global warming hoaxers.
Why are you bringing up the Wii? This is technology they're talking about.
By the way, I still think the GPU is being heavily underestimated. For a developer to make this comment, there has to be something good under the hood:
Like I said before, it's best to leave this thread be. You, I and a few others know what's really going on. So honestly, what does it matter if the rest of gaf doesn't?