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Rayman Legends coming to Xbox 360/PS3, all versions releasing in September

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Bgamer90

Banned
bkfount said:
according to wikipedia, the 360 had two game release in February after launch, Full Auto and Fight Night Round 3. The PS3 only had Virtua Fighter 5 and MLB2k7 in it's first February.

February sucks.
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But Fight Night Round 3 and Virtua Fighter 5 were amazing games.
 
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Pie and Beans

Look for me on the local news, I'll be the guy arrested for trying to burn down a Nintendo exec's house.
Madouu said:
I suspect you haven't read or understood what I wrote. Maybe I didn't make it clear enough in which case I'll rephrase: I am not buying it at launch because of the delay. Nintendo has nothing to do with it, I'm pretty happy the game is going multiplatform. I am extremely disappointed that the game is getting delayed in this manner and I'm not willing to encourage Ubisoft to reproduce such business decisions with other games on whatever platform, so nope.
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If you're all gung ho for this course of action, you should stop to think what happens if you and many other WiiU owners do the same. What message does it send? "Oh we shouldnt have delayed that version?" Unlikely. It will send the self fulfilling prophecy of "why do we bother releasing games on Nintendo consoles".

For me at the end of the day, the decisions become binary: do I want to see more of this style of game in the future? yes/no. If videogame stores had ballot boxes instead of just a cash register, maybe you could communicate what you think you'd be communicating, but the truth is you'd be fostering the same old assumption amongst third parties.
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Incidentally, how many of the absolute Nintendo faithful punished Nintendo for their shenanigans with Twilight Princess on Gamecube? Not many I'll bet.
 
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AniHawk

Member
miksar said:
Why would games sell well if most of them are lazy and late ports? ZombiU did better than all multiplatform games, and it is a game that is highly unusual for a Nintendo platform. And I don't think that Rayman would sell worse than ZombiU to be honest.
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those lazy and late ports could have done better had nintendo acted like they cared about their own console.

e3 2011: here's this thing. let's talk about it like it's a new controller
e3 2012: here's this thing again. we'll not hype it up yet or have a full announcement of games
e3-summer 2012: okay, third parties can slowly start revealing their late and lazy ports
launch: word of mouth will do our marketing for us
january 2013: HOLY SHIT WHAT WENT WRONG

they made their bed.
 
Lynd7

Lynd7

Member
I can't believe the massive jerk move from Ubisoft. Just release the damn game early for Wii U and tell the 360 and PS3 owners to put up with it or buy a Wii U.
 
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Nirolak

Mrgrgr
John Harker said:
I think this is more Nintendo than Ubisoft. They never really liked Rayman. They don't heavily support games that compete with their first party offerings.
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Hmm, that's certainly interesting.

If Nintendo isn't heavily supporting the games from third parties that build on the market they established on the platform, I can see why third parties wouldn't be lining up to support them.

Microsoft on the other hand for example heavily pushes CoD despite having Halo.
 
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Interceptor

Banned
Just **** U (lol), Ubisoft! Rayman was interesting now. With all the kiosks and the first demo in the eshop you had a guaranteed hit. The game is still good in september but so are the other blockbusters around then. Oh and Nintendo Fans don´t like it to be treated like shit. A lesson barely a 3rd party has learned. You had such a good start with zombiu. Now you have messed it up.
 
Porcile

Porcile

Member
What a disaster for all parties involved. Will anyone care even for Rayman seven months from now? It had a nice little opening on Wii U, but I fear it's going to be lost in the shuffle.
 
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Roo

Member
Lynd7 said:
I can't believe the massive jerk move from Ubisoft. Just release the damn game early for Wii U and tell the 360 and PS3 owners to put up with it or buy a Wii U.
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Apparently Wii U owners are the only ones that can suck it up and receive old ports
 
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DXB-KNIGHT

Member
John Harker said:
I think this is more Nintendo than Ubisoft. They never really liked Rayman. They don't heavily support games that compete with their first party offerings.
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Nintendo was going to publish it in Japan, if thats not a form of support then I don't known what's that is.
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Plus most stores had Rayman Legends demos instead of NSMBU or NintendoLand.
 
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NotLiquid

Member
Nirolak said:
Hmm, that's certainly interesting.

If Nintendo isn't heavily supporting the games from third parties that build on the market they established on the platform, I can see why third parties wouldn't be lining up to support them.

Microsoft on the other hand for example heavily pushes CoD despite having Halo.
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Can't help but think of it being somewhat of a backwards supposition in Legends' case though. Iwata proudly proclaimed how they'd be the publishers of the game in Japan, and it's the most pushed third party game they had with a demo, playable demo kiosk units etc.

I don't really buy that they didn't care for the title.
 
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AniHawk

Member
John Harker said:
I think this is more Nintendo than Ubisoft. They never really liked Rayman. They don't heavily support games that compete with their first party offerings.
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that's weird, considering sonic. maybe they especially didn't like the comparisons to nsmbu. how strange of them to plan on publishing for japan.

i still don't know why this wasn't multiplat from the start.
 
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OctoWara289

Neo Member
Pie and Beans said:
If you're all gung ho for this course of action, you should stop to think what happens if you and many other WiiU owners do the same. What message does it send? "Oh we shouldnt have delayed that version?" Unlikely. It will send the self fulfilling prophecy of "why do we bother releasing games on Nintendo consoles".

For me at the end of the day, the decisions become binary: do I want to see more of this style of game in the future? yes/no. If videogame stores had ballot boxes instead of just a cash register, maybe you could communicate what you think you'd be communicating, but the truth is you'd be fostering the same old assumption amongst third parties.

Incidentally, how many of the absolute Nintendo faithful punished Nintendo for their shenanigans with Twilight Princess on Gamecube? Not many I'll bet.
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I agree, but that's not entirely our job. NINTENDO are the ones who should be putting forth this message, we're just the consumer. Nintendo are the ones with all of the money to invest in their so marvelous and innovative ideas; we shouldn't have to do their homework for them. You think that by Pie and Beans not picking up this game that's the only thing taken into account in Ubisoft's statistics? No, the consumers can only help further Nintendo's actions. Nintendo hasn't made an active approach to foster 3rd party publishers to make games for its systems. Nintendo has an INTERESTING, dare I say, 5 years ahead of them....
 
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Sissel

Member
Madouu said:
I suspect you haven't read or understood what I wrote. Maybe I didn't make it clear enough in which case I'll rephrase: I am not buying it at launch because of the delay. Nintendo has nothing to do with it, I'm pretty happy the game is going multiplatform. I am extremely disappointed that the game is getting delayed in this manner and I'm not willing to encourage Ubisoft to reproduce such business decisions with other games on whatever platform, so nope.
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That's dumb but you're free to do whatever.
 
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nckillthegrimace

Member
Nirolak said:
Hmm, that's certainly interesting.

If Nintendo isn't heavily supporting the games from third parties that build on the market they established on the platform, I can see why third parties wouldn't be lining up to support them.

Microsoft on the other hand for example heavily pushes CoD despite having Halo.
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In this specific instance, I don't know how anyone could say that Nintendo isn't (or wasn't) supporting Rayman. Nintendo's publishing it in Japan and it's the only game playable in store kiosks. Further, Ubisoft is one of the few Western third-parties that Nintendo has consistently had a good working relationship with. I don't think the problem is one of support; it's more likely a problem of the userbase not being where Ubisoft wants it to be.
 
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MormaPope

Banned
Nirolak said:
Hmm, that's certainly interesting.

If Nintendo isn't heavily supporting the games from third parties that build on the market they established on the platform, I can see why third parties wouldn't be lining up to support them.

Microsoft on the other hand for example heavily pushes CoD despite having Halo.
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I never thought about that but that's actually a pretty great strategy. CoD can sell Xbox's more or less than Halo, making profit an easy thing to attain. 3rd party support for the Wii-U is going to be even worse once 360/PS3 games stop being the main software focus.
 
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Kagari

Crystal Bearer
John Harker said:
I think this is more Nintendo than Ubisoft. They never really liked Rayman. They don't heavily support games that compete with their first party offerings.
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That's...
wow.

If that's really that case, that is. Nintendo aren't doing themselves any favors.
 
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jacob armitage

Banned
I'll be grabbing this for my Wii U for sure, but i'm glad other people will be able to play after the brilliance of the demo and the superb Rayman Origins.

And after the performance of the last one, i'm sure the plan of this to be multiplatform has long since been in the pipeline.


SUPER ANGRY EDIT:

WAIT, Wii U version delayed, again, until September. Now that is bullshit, less montpellier are still working on the title through all this, i'm rather upset.
 
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DXB-KNIGHT

Member
Kagari said:
That's...
wow.

If that's really that case, that is. Nintendo aren't doing themselves any favors.
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Their not doing themselves any favor buy pushing Rayman Wii U game demos instead of pushing their games and publishing it in Japan? What's Nintendo actual mistake here please tell me.
 
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Jofamo

Member
I seriously doubt it would take Ubisoft 6 months to port this to PS3/360. It's quite clearly just an extension of Origins and it's UbiArt Framework engine. An engine that is so cross-platform compatible they have it running perfectly on PS3, 360, Vita, PC, 3DS, iOS and Windows Phone (and probably something else I've missed out). This game was always destined to be ported to something else. Why the massive delay? Even the initial announcement screamed easy sequel. They've re-styled the graphics (though same physics, animations etc.), introduced 3D models and elements, and created new levels etc.

This development is bizarre .
 
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evanmisha

Member
Love what this says about publishers' relationships with Nintendo.

Want a PS360 game ported to Wii U? Aw, sorry! It's too late in development!
Want a Wii U game ported to PS360? Sure thing! We'll even delay the Wii U release.

I mean, didn't Rayman Legends already go gold?
 
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