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Watch Dogs Will Be Out This Holiday For ‘All Home Consoles,’ Leaked Poster Says

KingSnake

The Birthday Skeleton
Yeah, like for example searching through the hacking menus for the traffic light switcher with the D-pad when the car comes fast, instead of one touch. Gimmicky.
 

Amir0x

Banned
They can totally work with the concept of machine interaction with it...how about integration with miiverse with other people that are also playing the game for example...

that's awesome. then i can read dozens of hours of people jerking off furiously in circles over how amazing every aspect of the game is (edit: in between doodles of princess peach giving the finger to some character from Watch Dogs, of course)

man this gets better by the second. maybe miiverse will awkwardly ask me to write a poem about a moment i died in the game or some shit.

Where can I pre-order?
 

Meelow

Banned
yeah it might have maps and shit

totally worth a complete downgrade in visuals, physics, etc.

If the Gamepad features are fun than I will have no problem with taking the Wii U version over a prettier graphical version.

In the end games get remembered for how fun they are and not if it has the most amazing graphics, even though Watch Dogs looks really good graphically I won't deny that :)
 

Amir0x

Banned
If the Gamepad features are fun than I will have no problem with taking the Wii U version over a prettier graphical version.

In the end games get remembered for how fun they are and not if it has the most amazing graphics, even though Watch Dogs looks really good graphically I won't deny that :)

too bad visuals and physics are a far more integral part of ones enjoyment of a game than maps on screen. this idea that these elements are somehow detached from ones assessment of a games fun value are, of course, misguided (just as map screen gimmicks are part of your assessment of fun value; I assess them too, of course, just at something near who-gives-a-shit)

Watch Dogs was clearly and undeniably targeted for a different generation of consoles; why would you want to strip a game of its core identity and all of the associated features that brings just to experience some guaranteed tacked on gimmick that is only incidentally useful?
 

Pyronite

Member
that's awesome. then i can read dozens of hours of people jerking off furiously in circles over how amazing every aspect of the game is (edit: in between doodles of princess peach giving the finger to some character from Watch Dogs, of course)

man this gets better by the second. maybe miiverse will awkwardly ask me to write a poem about a moment i died in the game or some shit.

lol

While that's a little harsh (I like the MiiVerse! I fully expect the PS4 and Durango to implement something similar), I don't see much attraction in what the Wii U brings to the table for this title.

Just as likely is that you'll use SmartGlass or your PS4 controller to accomplish the Wii U's "my controller is now a hacking device" facade, if you care about that kind of thing.
 
Would never trade framerate and graphics fidelity simply for the sake of a gimmick controller. Fortunately with the PS4, we might have both. Touchpad might get some good use here. Who knows. And if that thing on the front of the controller is a mic we can feed commands through, even better.
 

KingSnake

The Birthday Skeleton
Oh, silly me. I thought that the main idea of the game, the control over the surroundings and people through hacking, is what makes this game unique and very interesting,
 
I somewhat admire Wii U owners, thinking that the game will release on Wii U along side the PS3/PS4/360/Durango version.

EDIT: I mean, Far Cry 3 isn't even out for it! I doubt that Ubisoft will support the Wii U like they somewhat promised at E3 last year. Even the "exclusive" Rayman game went multiplatform. What does that tell you? They don't rely on the system to push that many copies.

Why wouldn't they release it on Wii U? It will have a higher install base than orbis/durango. If there are 2 'versions' i.e PC, orbis, durango and PS3, 360, why wouldn't they make a Wii U version?
 

trinest

Member
I think that PC version aka the media we have will be what it will be like on the PS4 and Xbox, as well as of course the PC. I'm also assuming the assets could be used on the Wii U and if it is downgraded not by much, and it could be one of the better versions of the game.

360/PS3 if its downgraded I assume it will be a little bit more and in things like lighting and high res textures most likely.
 

ozfunghi

Member
yeah it might have maps and shit

totally worth a complete downgrade in visuals, physics, etc.

it may even have a mini-game on the second screen!

Like, the guy hacks shit with his phone

can you imagine the GROUNDBREAKING INNOVATION™ of, like, your Wii U pad becoming his hacking phone! Hacking mini-games for everyone!

oh man plus real time inventory switching! Somehow it is different than just pressing Up on the D-pad to do the same thing, idunno

Does the WiiU make you feel insecure about your manhood or something? Other people don't mind downgraded graphics and think the pad might offer nice gameplay tweaks... Let's make fun of em with piss-sour sarcasm. Sad. I don't get how people like you even got to be considered for being a mod. As for the AI etc in your other post. You might want to check some of the real-world performance benchmarks of the actual Wii CPU by Blu before jumping to conclusions.
 

JDSN

Banned
Oh, silly me. I thought that the main idea of the game, the control over the surroundings and people through hacking, is what makes this game unique and very interesting,
Its a Ubisoft game, there is good chance it will be an extremely bare bones or underused feature.
 
Why wouldn't they release it on Wii U? It will have a higher install base than orbis/durango. If there are 2 'versions' i.e PC, orbis, durango and PS3, 360, why wouldn't they make a Wii U version?

Because the market that buys a Wii U doesn't typically buy it for games like Watch Dogs perhaps. I'm sure they'll consider install base and Wii U consumer trends before they decide if porting to the Wii U makes financial sense.
 
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Deleted member 80556

Unconfirmed Member
Oh, man. They're using the revenge plotline in a game. Again.

Maybe I really just expected Person of Interest: the game.

Anyway, I want to see extensive previews of this game, this is a Ubisoft Montreal production after all. It is bound to have potential (until every other Ubisoft studio comes).
 

Amir0x

Banned
Does the WiiU make you feel insecure about your manhood or something? Other people don't mind downgraded graphics and think the pad might offer nice gameplay tweaks... Let's make fun of em with piss-sour sarcasm. Sad. I don't get how people like you even got to be considered for being a mod.

Of course, and I joked about people accepting clearly inferior games on Wii too - it doesn't bother me in the least if people buy garbage versions of titles, I just enjoy trying to understand the tortured explanations of people trying to elaborate on why. It's fun. And as this is a discussion about videogames, I feel fun is an important aspect of the community. As for your other throwaway comment, mods are people too and they enjoy being harsh critics, cynics and sarcastic same as everyone else - problem is fanboys don't like it. Who gives a shit about that, I say. Fuck 'em.

As for the AI etc in your other post. You might want to check some of the real-world performance benchmarks of the actual Wii CPU by Blu before jumping to conclusions.

I'm sorry if you actually believe it's even going to be in the same stratosphere of capability of Orbis/Durango, or what Watch Dogs is capable of. It's just going to be harder for you to accept down the road then
 

PhantomR

Banned
Some of you are ridiculously condescending.

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kirby_fox

Banned
As long as Wii U version isn't as bad a downgrade as Dead Rising was to Wii...I will gladly be on board for the Wii U version. Already have a Wii U for Nintendo games, and I won't have to spend $400+ on a new system yet? Sure- sign me up.
 
Because the market that buys a Wii U doesn't typically buy it for games like Watch Dogs perhaps. I'm sure they'll consider install base and Wii U consumer trends before they decide if porting to the Wii U makes financial sense.

ubisoft have already said it costs relatively very little to port games to wii u, i believe they said all their ports were less than a million dollars each and with quick and dirty maths that makes financial sense with less (maybe much less) than 50k sales
 

?oe?oe

Member
Honestly, the game is absolutely gorgeous, but it doesn't have that next-gen "wow" factor, I would expect. I know it's an open world game, but I think it will be interesting to see the two builds.
 

Jachaos

Member
Wow, it's been a while since I've seen such a display of sad people (last page or so).

Anyway, I'll admit I don't have any great ideas right now as to gameplay mechanics that could be in the Wii U version, but I'm sure it's possible to think of a few. Hopefully, Ubisoft Montreal keep going and don't suddenly get this mentality that anything new is gimmicky. It seems to me there are many gamers stuck in the past and insecure about any change a hardware could bring aside from photorealism in visuals. Do people really see themselves sitting in a living room playing on a TV with a traditional controller in 2050 ? Mobile, cloud computing, motion control, virtual reality, voice interactions, so many technologies coming that will change gaming and sure, what we have now is far from perfect but they're early attempts and you need those to keep innovating and evolve. I don't see people modelling open worlds to play in 4K, 60FPS and awesome AA as futuristic. The future should be one where we have more ways to interact, and where if humans craft visuals, it'll be for experimental purposes or to have sweet artstyles like that of Windwaker, Journey, etc.

Surely we'll have technology that just translates the real world in virtual world at some point right ? I get it's not possible right now (AFAIK) but just like how photography pushed painting in new directions (rather than just keep painting reality), I hope this will change how people see photorealism in games. Right now, too many gamers want to stay stuck in the present, which is why I wholeheartedly support Nintendo (because of the schism brought with DS/Wii/Wii U and the other current ways of doing hardware). And as far as software goes, Sony financed a game changer : Journey. I'm moving away from my Xbox and having recently bought a PS3, I'm pretty sure I'll get a PS4 instead of the next Xbox. They don't seem to try to take advantage of Kinect's possibilities anyway, just having lazy devs that will throw generic uses of the tech on their games. I'd rather support the ones who give tools to create new experiences and the ones who create new experiences than the ones who will just up specs and shove ads in my face. And I don't mind the cinematic style that's being used in games, it's just that it's used in too many ones who have nothing but that to go for them. When you see developpers try to copy cinema (going as far as to purposefully replicate the lens flare and all the other faults a material camera has that a virtual camera doesn't) instead of affirming the art that is a videogame. Sure Sleeping Dogs and The Last of Us tout their cinematic side but they have more than that to show for them, they're fun (well the latter seems like it is, though can't be sure yet). Games should be fun and/or new, innovative, experimental, impactful, not just a display of how close reality a computer chip can process, because well that gets old fast IMO.

I hope Watch_Dogs on Wii U is more than just clicking on a hacking method on the gamepad instead of choosing it in an on-screen inventory. There are possibilities, like there are for a NFS Racer vs PD, though they only chose to implement a small part of potential great gameplay due to lack of time. I commend their effort and will buy though.
 

ozfunghi

Member
Of course, and I joked about people accepting clearly inferior games on Wii too - it doesn't bother me in the least if people buy garbage versions of titles, I just enjoy trying to understand the tortured explanations of people trying to elaborate on why. It's fun. And as this is a discussion about videogames, I feel fun is an important aspect of the community. As for your other throwaway comment, mods are people too and they enjoy being harsh critics, cynics and sarcastic same as everyone else - problem is fanboys don't like it. Who gives a shit about that, I say. Fuck 'em.

I'm sorry if you actually believe it's even going to be in the same stratosphere of capability of Orbis/Durango, or what Watch Dogs is capable of. It's just going to be harder for you to accept down the road then

Nothing hard here for me to accept. No need to worry. It's kind of funny, seeing you throw around big words, and talk of other people's throwaway comments, being fanboys and whatnot. Yet you're having a hard time getting an actual point across without kneejerk remarks, profane language and sarcasm drenched self entitlement. Funny really.
 
Nothing hard here for me to accept. No need to worry. It's kind of funny, seeing you throw around big words, and talk of other people's throwaway comments, being fanboys and whatnot. Yet you're having a hard time getting an actual point across without kneejerk remarks, profane language and sarcasm drenched self entitlement. Funny really.

Love the fact that you attacked the structure of his comment and not the actual content. Way to turn it away from the fact that you don't have anything to say.
 

Amir0x

Banned
Nothing hard here for me to accept. No need to worry. It's kind of funny, seeing you throw around big words, and talk of other people's throwaway comments, being fanboys and whatnot. Yet you're having a hard time getting an actual point across without kneejerk remarks, profane language and sarcasm drenched self entitlement. Funny really.

profane language, oh no, i might be cursed by some arbitrary 17th century distinction of what makes a bad word, maybe the catholics will send me to hell or something

you're the one who got annoyed by sarcastic remarks about a videogame, to the point where you tried to insult me ("Sad. I don't get how people like you even got to be considered for being a mod."). don't get annoyed now when people bite back. suck it up.
 

Maxrunner

Member
that's awesome. then i can read dozens of hours of people jerking off furiously in circles over how amazing every aspect of the game is (edit: in between doodles of princess peach giving the finger to some character from Watch Dogs, of course)

man this gets better by the second. maybe miiverse will awkwardly ask me to write a poem about a moment i died in the game or some shit.

Where can I pre-order?

I didn't obviously considering such ridiculous mechanics, but i disgress. I don't have a wiiu, i'm considering going for Sony side this time, but i wont just jump for shaders and physics like you put it either...it's either graphics or it's not....i have a pc for that.
 

Ridley327

Member
As long as Wii U version isn't as bad a downgrade as Dead Rising was to Wii...I will gladly be on board for the Wii U version. Already have a Wii U for Nintendo games, and I won't have to spend $400+ on a new system yet? Sure- sign me up.

With the game coming to the 360 and PS3 for sure, I can't imagine a scenario where they would have to make an entirely different game, like what happened with Dead Rising Wii.
 

Yonafunu

Member
that's awesome. then i can read dozens of hours of people jerking off furiously in circles over how amazing every aspect of the game is (edit: in between doodles of princess peach giving the finger to some character from Watch Dogs, of course)

man this gets better by the second. maybe miiverse will awkwardly ask me to write a poem about a moment i died in the game or some shit.

Where can I pre-order?

You seem like a nice person.

What about Off-Screen Play?
 

PetrCobra

Member
I might get it used sometime in late 2014.

Not gonna support those brilliant businessmen not even smart enough to make bad decisions sound good.
 

Portugeezer

Member
yeah it might have maps and shit

totally worth a complete downgrade in visuals, physics, etc.

it may even have a mini-game on the second screen!

Like, the guy hacks shit with his phone

can you imagine the GROUNDBREAKING INNOVATION™ of, like, your Wii U pad becoming his hacking phone! Hacking mini-games for everyone!

oh man plus real time inventory switching! Somehow it is different than just pressing Up on the D-pad to do the same thing, idunno

A challenger appears!
 

Meelow

Banned
too bad visuals and physics are a far more integral part of ones enjoyment of a game than maps on screen. this idea that these elements are somehow detached from ones assessment of a games fun value are, of course, misguided (just as map screen gimmicks are part of your assessment of fun value; I assess them too, of course, just at something near who-gives-a-shit)

Watch Dogs was clearly and undeniably targeted for a different generation of consoles; why would you want to strip a game of its core identity and all of the associated features that brings just to experience some guaranteed tacked on gimmick that is only incidentally useful?

Expect we have no idea what Ubisoft will do with the Gamepad for Watch Dogs, it might just be for maps, items, etc but it's possible they can use it in a cool way.
 

ozfunghi

Member
profane language, oh no, i might be cursed by some arbitrary 17th century distinction of what makes a bad word, maybe the catholics will send me to hell or something

you're the one who got annoyed by sarcastic remarks about a videogame, to the point where you tried to insult me ("Sad. I don't get how people like you even got to be considered for being a mod."). don't get annoyed now when people bite back. suck it up.

I'm not annoyed. I told you, you amuse me. No sucking for me thank you very much.

Love the fact that you attacked the structure of his comment and not the actual content. Way to turn it away from the fact that you don't have anything to say.

Sorry, just noticed this. But i'm afraid you don't quite understand. I have no beef with him thinking WiiU has no value to offer for such games. I just think it's funny, how he needs to get his point across. He needs to attack people personally, mock their opinion, their choice. I was just asking why that was necessary. The most obvious answer would be some form of hidden frustration. And when i do so, the only rebuttal seems to be trying to mock my opinion, which makes it even more hilarious.

As for the remark about him being a mod once... well, sure. Do you read his posts? I asked a valid question or raised a valid point.
 

Irish

Member
Well, you folk were going to have to learn eventually. When a wild Amir0x attacks, all you need to do is ramble incoherently and eventually start agreeing with him. As soon as you do that, you'll start to see an amazing change where he will begin taking on the arguments for the side you were originally on just to continue the argument/debate. This is where you finally drop the cage on his head and say, "Aha! So we agree!" and that is all there is to it. :p
 

Amir0x

Banned
Expect we have no idea what Ubisoft will do with the Gamepad for Watch Dogs, it might just be for maps, items, etc but it's possible they can use it in a cool way.

Of course.

Except this is Ubisoft, on a game entirely developed with next-gen consoles in mind. The idea that they're going to put any significant effort into what goes on the Pad for a flagging system that is selling like 2 units for the moment and isn't even close to the lead platform seems kind of unwarrantably optimistic, but what am I to say.

What about Off-Screen Play?

I have a TV that does everything dramatically better than a pad with limited range, so it has no use for me. After all, I didn't buy an HD system to play games in sub-HD, or on questionable screens. So I haven't found a use of the feature yet that matters to me as a individual.

If however you're one of the people who has family or kids who take up the TV all the time, then of course it'd be more useful. I have two TVs and two people living in this house, so it's not a problem for me. But if that feature is enough to make you seriously take massive downgrades in every aspect of the game, then go for it.

I'm poking fun at the idea, because it's amusing to me, but it's your money. I have no problem with how people spend their money, providing of course you have no problem that I criticize certain silly money-spending practices. It's all a free market love-in, I say.

I highly doubt he would care about that. This is a guy who has never(?) turned the 3D on on his 3DS.

That's just how he is.

Yes, but there were tangible reasons for it. One, autostereoscopic 3D has huge problems (super small tilt range before going out of focus; color degradation;etc), far more distracting than they're worth. And two, many games take a performance/visual hit when you turn on 3D, so again... not worth the downsides of the tech.

That said, I did VERY recently turn on 3D for use in Colors! 3D, because it's obviously impossible to see how the 3D will look for people who do use it if you're trying to make a 3D painting. It was as bad as my past experience with the tech, of course, but naturally I'm just being "stubborn" and have no legitimate reasons.

Edit:

http://colorslive.com/details/369140
http://colorslive.com/details/372827
http://colorslive.com/details/379646

some of my Colors! 3D work if you want to see it

ozfunghi said:
I'm not annoyed. I told you, you amuse me. No sucking for me thank you very much.

People who are amused generally don't say the things you said; but I actually am amused so what can I say. I love neoGAF, people like you make this place amazing.
 

Pooya

Member
What, you feel that GRAW PS2/Xbox didn't hold up well? :p

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I don't think it would be extreme like that, cross gen games in 2006 by ubisoftwere entirely different games then, different levels, different mechanics, different plots even made by different studios. they only shared the title pretty much. if there is a Watch_Dogs on ps360 I imagine it would be the same game it just won't look anywhere as good with bad framerate, basically FC3/AC3 last year... it's probably not financially viable to have something like that now. and footage they market it would be representative of how the game plays on all platforms.
 

ozfunghi

Member
So who is more amused? The most amused person wins.

Obviously NOT the person getting the WiiU version of Watch_Dogs, amirite?

People who are amused generally don't say the things you said; but I actually am amused so what can I say. I love neoGAF, people like you make this place amazing.

Glad to be of service. Hope i was that glimmer of light for you, painting a smile on your face. You do seem like you could use it.

let's call it splits, he is amused, I am amused, and together you get someone who is hysterical

I can live with that. But i would like to stress the fact that i was rather amused. We should do this more often, lol.
 

Yonafunu

Member
I'm poking fun at the idea, because it's amusing to me, but it's your money. I have no problem with how people spend their money, providing of course you have no problem that I criticize certain silly money-spending practices. It's all a free market love-in, I say.

This is the part some people have problems with, I think. You're saying this like it's a fact, while it obviously isn't. For some people Off-Screen Play has more value than better visuals, for example. Who are you to say that's dumb, stupid, silly, etc.? It doesn't look like you're respecting peoples differing tastes. It's obviously your opinion, but the way you voice it comes off as condescending.
 

Amir0x

Banned
This is the part some people have problems with, I think. You're saying this like it's a fact, while it obviously isn't. For some people Off-Screen Play has more value than better visuals, for example. Who are you to say that's dumb, stupid, silly, etc.? It doesn't look like you're respecting peoples differing tastes. It's obviously your opinion, but the way you bring it comes off as condescending.

I apologize, but I'm not going to say "imo" for something that is obviously an opinion. We're talking about videogames, after all, and unless we're saying something like "this game is X resolution" or "this game runs at Y framerate", it's all opinion.

I do think these things are silly, and I'm not going to not say that because some people think it's condescending. But if you feel this way, like I always say, just skip the offending posts. It's not going to bother me and then you can have a different conversation and push me out of it. It's all good either way.
 

Floyd

Member
profane language, oh no, i might be cursed by some arbitrary 17th century distinction of what makes a bad word, maybe the catholics will send me to hell or something

you're the one who got annoyed by sarcastic remarks about a videogame, to the point where you tried to insult me ("Sad. I don't get how people like you even got to be considered for being a mod."). don't get annoyed now when people bite back. suck it up.

Are you still a fat bastard?
 

Yonafunu

Member
I apologize, but I'm not going to say "imo" for something that is obviously an opinion. We're talking about videogames, after all, and unless we're saying something like "this game is X resolution" or "this game runs at Y framerate", it's all opinion.

I do think these things are silly, and I'm not going to not say that because some people think it's condescending. But if you feel this way, like I always say, just skip the offending posts. It's not going to bother me and then you can have a different conversation and push me out of it. It's all good either way.

Oh, I'm not offended, I get what you're saying, I'm just trying to rationalize (am I using this correctly) the opposing sides. But do you get what I'm saying, at least?

Are you still a fat bastard?

Come on son.
 
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