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So wait, not only did Crecente published a very similar article using the same source Walker did (after Gies dismissed it) he then claimed ignorance about having read it, after tweeting a fucking link to it not 2 days ago?

What the fucking fuck.

 

[RiccochetJ]

Is that what this Crecente guy actually looks like? He looks like a pretentious dick. He should be thrown to the wolves just for that.

Really? People around here are going to start making personal attacks?

 

[EatChildren]

This

Is particular confusing as, like Gies, I too spend my time writing and publishing critique on video games. I mean...he writes for Polygon. He writes reviews. He spends hours playing games, then hours penning reports that aim to analyse the components of said game and argue why they do/don't work. His career at Polygon is doing exactly what he's complaining about: telling people how to make better games.

I don't think there's anything wrong with that, it's just a baffling thing to complain about. Any time he's ever written that he didn't like a certain aspect of a video game he's suggesting it could be better, and implying he possess the knowledge to know what constitutes as "better". A statement like this is bonafide shitting where you eat.

 

[EmCeeGramr]

 

[mats effect]

I am sort of a bit confused as to whats going on now. Are polygon saying their article is completely new or what?


Its days like this I wish I miss the old 1UP.com

 

[Vagabundo]

haha, poly-gone.

 

[SteveWinwood]

Gies just doesn't have a brain in his head at all does he?

 

[Foliorum Viridum]

Not cool. Removed.

 

[HoosTrax]

I don't understand why everyone was implicating Polygon in this entire debacle in the first place when it pretty much just was eagies not knowing when to stop.

I don't think that's Arthur Gies's name up there next to the premature pre-release review for SimCity on Polygon.

 

[EmCeeGramr]

Things that should happen to Arthur Gies:

What the fuck, dude.


A) That's really dumb and disgusting.
B) No seriously
C) No I don't care if it was "ironic"
D) It just gives him something to paint all of NeoGAF with
E) No fucking seriously don't joke about rape or disabilities or mental impairment

 

[Lord_Nergal]

Things that should happen to Arthur Gies:

vitriol

Thanks for giving him ammunition, doofus.

 

[Easy_D]

Brian C. What a

Spoiler

un

professional.

I can never take Crescente seriously after the Eegra Spoof

 

[Hot Coldman]

What the fuck, dude.

Classic Folorium Viridium

 

[PairOfFilthySocks]

My goodness, such buffoonery. Unfortunately, the seething mass of piss that forms most of the modern gaming media will circle the wagons on this shit while industry insiders cheer these Polygon clowns for "standing up for principles" or some such bollocks.

 

[jim-jam bongs]

I think this is a sign of what direction they're going to take on this:

What a scumbag. The truth is apparently a popularity contest to these cretins.

 

[OverBlood 3]

Things that should happen to Arthur Gies:

Erm... Maybe not.

 

[Canis lupus]

Maybe we should just ignore them, polygon is not a big relevant site, just disregard what their people like geiss have to say.

 

[Dibbz]

Polygon is just full of clowns.

 

[Goldenroad]

Is that what this Crecente guy actually looks like? He looks like a pretentious dick. He should be thrown to the wolves just for that.

.

But judging people based on their looks isn't pretentious at all.

Someone should be thrown to the wolves...not sure if it's him though.

Anyway...Polygon thread. ::gets pitchfork::

 

[Treythalomew]

I don't think there's anything wrong with that, it's just a baffling thing to complain about. Any time he's ever written that he didn't like a certain aspect of a video game he's suggesting it could be better, and implying he possess the knowledge to know what constitutes as "better". A statement like this is bonafide shitting where you eat.

"I'd like to see you do better" is the weakest argument for anything ever. No I don't have the capacity to make a AAA videogame but that doesn't mean I can't say things that I think are bad about a game.

 

[VALIS]

This forum's obsession with Polygon/Gies is becoming as ugly as anything they've done.

edit: I said that before Foliorum's post, too. Jeez. Way to take it over the top, buddy.

 

[old manatee]

I sort of hoped that after the Sim City debacle we could just act like Polygon doesn't exist.

 

[funkystudent]

The new wave of game journalism sure feels like a concentrated version of everything wrong with the last wave.

 

[randomwab]

I can never take Crescente seriously after the Eegra Spoof

It's been so long. My god. Still amazing.

 

[unbias]

I can never take Crescente seriously after the Eegra Spoof

Haha, omg, that was terrible.

 

[Pop-O-Matic]

Not cool. Removed.

I think it says a lot about someone if they can generate this kind of hate.

 

[Cosmonaut X]

Reposting

 

[Uno Venova]

This forum's obsession with Polygon/Gies has become as ugly as anything they've done.

Not really, this is isn't new, and it's informative.

 

[MYeager]

This



Is particular confusing as, like Gies, I too spend my time writing and publishing critique on video games. I mean...he writes for Polygon. He writes reviews. He spends hours playing games, then hours penning reports that aim to analyse the components of said game and argue why they do/don't work. His career at Polygon is doing exactly what he's complaining about: telling people how to make better games.

I don't think there's anything wrong with that, it's just a baffling thing to complain about. Any time he's ever written that he didn't like a certain aspect of a video game he's suggesting it could be better, and implying he possess the knowledge to know what constitutes as "better". A statement like this is bonafide shitting where you eat.

Yeah, that doesn't quite make sense. A critics job is to be critical, not hold back because they couldn't create a better product themselves.

 

[JDSN]

Not cool. Removed.

I wonder which post will be singled out on twitter.

 

[KnightAttack]

Just proves Mik was right all along.

I use to like Gies, but now I can't stand anything he writes or does. I don't even go to Polygon anymore. They don't get my clicks.

 

[EatChildren]

"I'd like to see you do better" is the weakest argument for anything ever. No I don't have the capacity to make a AAA videogame but that doesn't mean I can't say things that I think are bad about a game.

Right, but it's exceptionally weak coming from someone who dedicates time to doing just this. He's a "video game journalist" who writes reviews. His career is telling people they could do better!

 

[jim-jam bongs]

This forum's obsession with Polygon/Gies is becoming as ugly as anything they've done.

edit: I said that before Foliorum's post, too, Jeez. Way to grab the brass ring, buddy.

Damn son, if you painted strokes any broader you'd cover the planet.

 

[Horse Armour]

Was Foliorum Viridum permed?

 

[ChimpanzeeThat]

Brian Crecente cracks me up. When he was at Kotaku and they had the MW3 leak, he was insanely butt hurt when told by Infinity Ward that they had published a bunch of false information.

Still waiting for those Team Perks and Kremlin missions, Brian.

 

[Sneds]

This

Is particular confusing as, like Gies, I too spend my time writing and publishing critique on video games. I mean...he writes for Polygon. He writes reviews. He spends hours playing games, then hours penning reports that aim to analyse the components of said game and argue why they do/don't work. His career at Polygon is doing exactly what he's complaining about: telling people how to make better games.

I don't think there's anything wrong with that, it's just a baffling thing to complain about. Any time he's ever written that he didn't like a certain aspect of a video game he's suggesting it could be better, and implying he possess the knowledge to know what constitutes as "better". A statement like this is bonafide shitting where you eat.

I don't think that Gies is saying that people can't criticise games, just that they shouldn't play 'backseat game designer'. I assume that for Geis 'the gunplay in Bioshock is lacklustre' would be an acceptable thing to say but 'they should have put ironsights in Bioshock' would not.

It's basically the distinction made in the OP in this thread:
http://www.neogaf.com/forum/showthread.php?t=518649

That being said, personally, I don't have a problem with 'backseat game designing'.

 

[awa64]

Yeah, that doesn't quite make sense. A critics job is to be critical, not hold back because they couldn't create a better product themselves.

There's a difference between "this works, this doesn't work" and "they should have done X instead of Y and the only reason they didn't was because they're <lazy/greedy/stupid/hate you/miscellaneous other vitriol>."

 

[EviLore]

Was Foliorum Viridum permed?

Yep.

 

[JustProgress]

"As a games writer" is just so rich. What a useless qualifier if you're ever trying to make a point.

 

[Data West]

I like Kotaku and Joystiq more because Polygon exists.

 

[sam27368]

So Polygon is GAF's flavour hate of the month?

 

[Lord_Nergal]

So Polygon is GAF's flavour hate of the month?

Nope, we've been at it (justifiably!) since pre-site launch.

 

[wrowa]

Crecente's way of talking with Walker kinda makes me want to vomit. It's this form of politeness that you can't really get angry about without looking dumb, but at the same time it conveys the subtle message of "You just own a blog, you aren't in my league". Ugh.

 

[Stasis]

Hmmm, I discovered Polygon recently and liked the layout.

This is a whole lot of nonsense. Hard to respect any of it really.

 

[Pie and Beans]

"As a games writer" is just so rich. What a useless qualifier if you're ever trying to make a point.

I feel both that and "Oh, that I saw" have glorious meme potential.

 

[OverBlood 3]

There's a difference between "this works, this doesn't work" and "they should have done X instead of Y and the only reason they didn't was because they're <lazy/greedy/stupid/hate you/miscellaneous other vitriol>."

Is it like us plebs saying 'They should have had an offline mode in a game" and then someone maybe a games journo saying 'It's not possible'. Then being proven wrong?

I wonder where that fits in with all this.

 

[Lord_Nergal]

Crecente's way of talking with Walker kinda makes me want to vomit. It's this form of politeness that you can't really get angry about without looking dumb, but at the same time it conveys the subtle message of "You just own a blog, you aren't in my league". Ugh.

"No, really, greeeeaaaattttt job. You're doing great work! I'm just gonna ctrl+c, then ctrl+v it, and not source you, but it was great!"

 

[HansKisaragi]

Got all the Polygon staff on my shitlist.. bunch of idiots all of them. Unprofessional amateurs.

 

[Nekofrog]

http://i.imgur.com/SQ0QKWX.jpg

I record music as a hobby. I would not approach any criticism towards my music with a reply of "you don't know shit because you've never recorded an album before".

This is probably one of the stupidest things I've ever seen someone say. Goddamn, gies.

 

[Joe Shlabotnik]

I think it says a lot about someone if they can generate this kind of hate.

Nah, Folorium just kind of... does that.