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[DragonSworne]

How many dishonest and shady acts does Polygon need to commit before they are banned?

Doesn't matter. I have never visited the site and never will. I didn't buy into the BS when they first formed.

 

[ItWasMeantToBe19]

I don't get the hate for Twitter.

 

[Iacobellis]

Did Microsoft really waste their money backing these guys?

 

[Quadraphonic]

I think because when I was taught to read it was from left to right, top to bottom.

And that's how all the posts have been made in this thread. Conversation mode, which all of the screen captures have been from, are in the regular order.

 

[ghst]

It's not necessarily about literacy, but I prefer to just understand the gist of the content without going through the YnR/Valley/WWE exchange.

there's a whole laundry list of ways it ruins discourse:

- allows user to "hold court" in public amongst only trusted peers and sycophants.
- viral tagging system serves as a shit beacon for anyone else allied by circumstance.
- zero room for articulation, depth or rationale; all that's left are vapid statements and aloof allusions.
- encourages grammar which would make an AIM tween blush.
- perfect battleground for passive aggressive snipefests where just about anyone can carve out 200 odd characters of abbreviated nothing, call it a day and sign off on only the most positive feedback.

it astonishes me that so many game journalists, who have long looked down on forums as a kind of base arena of plebeian brutality, have the hypocrisy to find refuge in the pestilent wasteland of fractured conversation that is twitter. have a little self respect.

 

[WrenchNinja]

if polygon was banned, who would we make fun of

 

[TheSeks]

if polygon was banned, who would we make fun of

Kotaku, easy. Next question?

Spoiler

Hi, Jason.

 

[Slavik81]

I think because when I was taught to read it was from left to right, top to bottom.

Are they not all in the same order? Some of them clearly go top to bottom.

 

[TheSeks]

Are they not all in the same order? Some of them clearly go top to bottom.

That's the new order that Twitter made for "extended view" since people bitched about what was a simple scroll-up method.

The original/normal method of viewing conversations is scrolling up. People too lazy to press down and then read up want to bitch.

 

[frostyxc]

I usually just hide in the shadows--sniffing glue and thinking of new ways to take on Reginald Heuwurth, CPA--but this post, and its ilk, has pushed me to comment.

With my copious amount of free time, I’m usually wont to read every post of a thread, followed by pressing half-cooked pancakes to my bare chest… the goopy, puss-like pancake batter burning straight to my heart. It is literally the only way I can feel alive any more…

*sigh*

The universe.

Where was I?

Having read every post and considering every point and counterpoint, I think I have some advice for those of you in here who want to improve what is going on at Polyglotnal… Pimpernalgynal… Po-po-po-poooo… the interactive entertainment criticism teepee. Instead of getting too deep into this forum/twitter echo chamber, why not write to some people who will listen to interested, involved readers that are polite and articulate in their complaints? No, no—I’m not talking about writing to Waylon Jennings. He’s dead.

Writing to the executives at Vox Media (or any other company that has a lack of the professionalisms) and pointing out what is going on with some of their employees, in a very public place on the internet, will get some attention. Claiming that your views don’t represent the company while using the company's identity to represent yourself is not some wicked force field. Force fields are wicked on their own.

Anyway, the reason you do this--instead of starting at the EIC--is that the EIC at many of these “publications” is akin to a clueless manager at a PayLess ShoeSource. His employees are yelling “F-off, you dimpsy nerdburgers!” at customers, and he just tells them to quiet down because he can’t concentrate on sexting his girlfriend in Quebec. Shoes are called “chaussures” in French Canada, you know.

If you write something like “Dear Mr./Mrs./Ms./Hyperion, I would like to bring to your attention some unprofessional behavior by your employees. I only have a month to live! Send rice. Godspeed!” these suits will likely take note, and at most—take ACTION. Not Schwarzenegger “Get to da choppa!” high action, but some action that will hopefully brush these guys back from the edge and plop them into whichever reality cashes their paychecks. Don’t demand anyone be fired. Don’t urge everyone to Wang Chung tonight. Just point out that this unprofessional behavior might be hurting their brand. Excluding governments, this method will often get someone’s attention.

That’s it really. I know my reply is long, but I have been sliding around in the dark corners for soooo long. And the pancakes, man... they don’t understand my needs.

Thanks for the entertaining threads!

Hey, Don Johnson! I’m looking for a heartbeat, too, buddy!

 

[Square Triangle]

arthur gies is easily one of the most loathsome individuals on the planet

Agreed.

 

[3rdamention]

all this twitter nonsense.

its like middle school drama for adults .

As a Middle School teacher I really dont think these guys understand how pathetic they look arguing and fighting on twitter...They act so immature...The fact that their employers allow them to act like this is equally embarassing..

Most people would have already been fired for acting like immature kids on social media....its pretty sad that these are paid professionals..

 

[beast786]

I usually just hide in the shadows--sniffing glue and thinking of new ways to take on Reginald Heuwurth, CPA--but this post, and its ilk, has pushed me to comment.

With my copious amount of free time, I’m usually wont to read every post of a thread, followed by pressing half-cooked pancakes to my bare chest… the goopy, puss-like pancake batter burning straight to my heart. It is literally the only way I can feel alive any more…

*sigh*

The universe.

Where was I?

Having read every post and considering every point and counterpoint, I think I have some advice for those of you in here who want to improve what is going on at Polyglotnal… Pimpernalgynal… Po-po-po-poooo… the interactive entertainment criticism teepee. Instead of getting too deep into this forum/twitter echo chamber, why not write to some people who will listen to interested, involved readers that are polite and articulate in their complaints? No, no—I’m not talking about writing to Waylon Jennings. He’s dead.

Writing to the executives at Vox Media (or any other company that has a lack of the professionalisms) and pointing out what is going on with some of their employees, in a very public place on the internet, will get some attention. Claiming that your views don’t represent the company while using the company's identity to represent yourself is not some wicked force field. Force fields are wicked on their own.

Anyway, the reason you do this--instead of starting at the EIC--is that the EIC at many of these “publications” is akin to a clueless manager at a PayLess ShoeSource. His employees are yelling “F-off, you dimpsy nerdburgers!” at customers, and he just tells them to quiet down because he can’t concentrate on sexting his girlfriend in Quebec. Shoes are called “chaussures” in French Canada, you know.

If you write something like “Dear Mr./Mrs./Ms./Hyperion, I would like to bring to your attention some unprofessional behavior by your employees. I only have a month to live! Send rice. Godspeed!” these suits will likely take note, and at most—take ACTION. Not Schwarzenegger “Get to da choppa!” high action, but some action that will hopefully brush these guys back from the edge and plop them into whichever reality cashes their paychecks. Don’t demand anyone be fired. Don’t urge everyone to Wang Chung tonight. Just point out that this unprofessional behavior might be hurting their brand. Excluding governments, this method will often get someone’s attention.

That’s it really. I know my reply is long, but I have been sliding around in the dark corners for soooo long. And the pancakes, man... they don’t understand my needs.

Thanks for the entertaining threads!

Hey, Don Johnson! I’m looking for a heartbeat, too, buddy!

I don't know why but I enjoyed reading this post.

 

[Dodecagon]

I usually just hide in the shadows--sniffing glue and thinking of new ways to take on Reginald Heuwurth, CPA--but this post, and its ilk, has pushed me to comment.

With my copious amount of free time, I’m usually wont to read every post of a thread, followed by pressing half-cooked pancakes to my bare chest… the goopy, puss-like pancake batter burning straight to my heart. It is literally the only way I can feel alive any more…

*sigh*

The universe.

Where was I?

Having read every post and considering every point and counterpoint, I think I have some advice for those of you in here who want to improve what is going on at Polyglotnal… Pimpernalgynal… Po-po-po-poooo… the interactive entertainment criticism teepee. Instead of getting too deep into this forum/twitter echo chamber, why not write to some people who will listen to interested, involved readers that are polite and articulate in their complaints? No, no—I’m not talking about writing to Waylon Jennings. He’s dead.

Writing to the executives at Vox Media (or any other company that has a lack of the professionalisms) and pointing out what is going on with some of their employees, in a very public place on the internet, will get some attention. Claiming that your views don’t represent the company while using the company's identity to represent yourself is not some wicked force field. Force fields are wicked on their own.

Anyway, the reason you do this--instead of starting at the EIC--is that the EIC at many of these “publications” is akin to a clueless manager at a PayLess ShoeSource. His employees are yelling “F-off, you dimpsy nerdburgers!” at customers, and he just tells them to quiet down because he can’t concentrate on sexting his girlfriend in Quebec. Shoes are called “chaussures” in French Canada, you know.

If you write something like “Dear Mr./Mrs./Ms./Hyperion, I would like to bring to your attention some unprofessional behavior by your employees. I only have a month to live! Send rice. Godspeed!” these suits will likely take note, and at most—take ACTION. Not Schwarzenegger “Get to da choppa!” high action, but some action that will hopefully brush these guys back from the edge and plop them into whichever reality cashes their paychecks. Don’t demand anyone be fired. Don’t urge everyone to Wang Chung tonight. Just point out that this unprofessional behavior might be hurting their brand. Excluding governments, this method will often get someone’s attention.

That’s it really. I know my reply is long, but I have been sliding around in the dark corners for soooo long. And the pancakes, man... they don’t understand my needs.

Thanks for the entertaining threads!

Hey, Don Johnson! I’m looking for a heartbeat, too, buddy!

This is fantastic

 

[Emarv]

Love the Payless manager bit.

 

[KingFire]

I usually just hide in the shadows--sniffing glue and thinking of new ways to take on Reginald Heuwurth, CPA--but this post, and its ilk, has pushed me to comment.

With my copious amount of free time, I’m usually wont to read every post of a thread, followed by pressing half-cooked pancakes to my bare chest… the goopy, puss-like pancake batter burning straight to my heart. It is literally the only way I can feel alive any more…

*sigh*

The universe.

Where was I?

Having read every post and considering every point and counterpoint, I think I have some advice for those of you in here who want to improve what is going on at Polyglotnal… Pimpernalgynal… Po-po-po-poooo… the interactive entertainment criticism teepee. Instead of getting too deep into this forum/twitter echo chamber, why not write to some people who will listen to interested, involved readers that are polite and articulate in their complaints? No, no—I’m not talking about writing to Waylon Jennings. He’s dead.

Writing to the executives at Vox Media (or any other company that has a lack of the professionalisms) and pointing out what is going on with some of their employees, in a very public place on the internet, will get some attention. Claiming that your views don’t represent the company while using the company's identity to represent yourself is not some wicked force field. Force fields are wicked on their own.

Anyway, the reason you do this--instead of starting at the EIC--is that the EIC at many of these “publications” is akin to a clueless manager at a PayLess ShoeSource. His employees are yelling “F-off, you dimpsy nerdburgers!” at customers, and he just tells them to quiet down because he can’t concentrate on sexting his girlfriend in Quebec. Shoes are called “chaussures” in French Canada, you know.

If you write something like “Dear Mr./Mrs./Ms./Hyperion, I would like to bring to your attention some unprofessional behavior by your employees. I only have a month to live! Send rice. Godspeed!” these suits will likely take note, and at most—take ACTION. Not Schwarzenegger “Get to da choppa!” high action, but some action that will hopefully brush these guys back from the edge and plop them into whichever reality cashes their paychecks. Don’t demand anyone be fired. Don’t urge everyone to Wang Chung tonight. Just point out that this unprofessional behavior might be hurting their brand. Excluding governments, this method will often get someone’s attention.

That’s it really. I know my reply is long, but I have been sliding around in the dark corners for soooo long. And the pancakes, man... they don’t understand my needs.

Thanks for the entertaining threads!

Hey, Don Johnson! I’m looking for a heartbeat, too, buddy!

Somebody unjoiner this man please.

 

[Kade]

I usually just hide in the shadows--sniffing glue and thinking of new ways to take on Reginald Heuwurth, CPA--but this post, and its ilk, has pushed me to comment.

With my copious amount of free time, I’m usually wont to read every post of a thread, followed by pressing half-cooked pancakes to my bare chest… the goopy, puss-like pancake batter burning straight to my heart. It is literally the only way I can feel alive any more…

*sigh*

The universe.

Where was I?

Having read every post and considering every point and counterpoint, I think I have some advice for those of you in here who want to improve what is going on at Polyglotnal… Pimpernalgynal… Po-po-po-poooo… the interactive entertainment criticism teepee. Instead of getting too deep into this forum/twitter echo chamber, why not write to some people who will listen to interested, involved readers that are polite and articulate in their complaints? No, no—I’m not talking about writing to Waylon Jennings. He’s dead.

Writing to the executives at Vox Media (or any other company that has a lack of the professionalisms) and pointing out what is going on with some of their employees, in a very public place on the internet, will get some attention. Claiming that your views don’t represent the company while using the company's identity to represent yourself is not some wicked force field. Force fields are wicked on their own.

Anyway, the reason you do this--instead of starting at the EIC--is that the EIC at many of these “publications” is akin to a clueless manager at a PayLess ShoeSource. His employees are yelling “F-off, you dimpsy nerdburgers!” at customers, and he just tells them to quiet down because he can’t concentrate on sexting his girlfriend in Quebec. Shoes are called “chaussures” in French Canada, you know.

If you write something like “Dear Mr./Mrs./Ms./Hyperion, I would like to bring to your attention some unprofessional behavior by your employees. I only have a month to live! Send rice. Godspeed!” these suits will likely take note, and at most—take ACTION. Not Schwarzenegger “Get to da choppa!” high action, but some action that will hopefully brush these guys back from the edge and plop them into whichever reality cashes their paychecks. Don’t demand anyone be fired. Don’t urge everyone to Wang Chung tonight. Just point out that this unprofessional behavior might be hurting their brand. Excluding governments, this method will often get someone’s attention.

That’s it really. I know my reply is long, but I have been sliding around in the dark corners for soooo long. And the pancakes, man... they don’t understand my needs.

Thanks for the entertaining threads!

Hey, Don Johnson! I’m looking for a heartbeat, too, buddy!

Probably the best first post ever.

 

[BlastProcessing]

there's a whole laundry list of ways it ruins discourse:

- allows user to "hold court" in public amongst only trusted peers and sycophants.
- viral tagging system serves as a shit beacon for anyone else allied by circumstance.
- zero room for articulation, depth or rationale; all that's left are vapid statements and aloof allusions.
- encourages grammar which would make an AIM tween blush.
- perfect battleground for passive aggressive snipefests where just about anyone can carve out 200 odd characters of abbreviated nothing, call it a day and sign off on only the most positive feedback.

it astonishes me that so many game journalists, who have long looked down on forums as a kind of base arena of plebeian brutality, have the hypocrisy to find refuge in the pestilent wasteland of fractured conversation that is twitter. have a little self respect.

This seems like a good post, but could you shorten it down to 140 characters so I can read it?

 

[akidnamededdy]

As silly as it is to admit it, gaming magazines are what got me into journalism (EGM specifically--I still remember the first issue I bought in an Electronics Boutique as a wee lad).

I had always kind of thought I could write for EGM once I finished school. Even in college, it popped into my head every now and then. I even wrote off and on for a few smaller websites--just news and reviews, nothing super exciting but I did get paid a little for it, which was nice.

But EGM was shuttered by the time I finished undergrad, so that dream sort of fizzled. Worked for a bit, then went back to school.

Now I've got a BA and an MA in journalism, but the gaming press as it is now just disgusts me. So-called journalists bickering on Twitter like high school girls, publicly whining about another outlet securing an exclusive early review, the whole ugly Wainwright fiasco...the whole industry is rotten to the core, and it's just so, so goddamn depressing.

There are a few writers and outlets that seem to still understand what they're supposed to be doing as members of the press, but they're far, far outnumbered by people like Gies and Crecente.

EDIT: Oh damn nobody's going to even see this after frosty's post, are they? Good show, frosty.

 

[RiccochetJ]

Well that was one hell of a first time post here on GAF.

 

[NoirVisage]

Probably the best first post ever.

Easily. DG has probably sussed out who he is, but regardless of his "indentity" he gets a cat5

 

[TheSeks]

This seems like a good post, but could you shorten it down to 140 characters so I can read it?

It provides entertainment.

 

[hwy_61]

I usually just hide in the shadows--sniffing glue and thinking of new ways to take on Reginald Heuwurth, CPA--but this post, and its ilk, has pushed me to comment.

With my copious amount of free time, I’m usually wont to read every post of a thread, followed by pressing half-cooked pancakes to my bare chest… the goopy, puss-like pancake batter burning straight to my heart. It is literally the only way I can feel alive any more…

*sigh*

The universe.

Where was I?

Having read every post and considering every point and counterpoint, I think I have some advice for those of you in here who want to improve what is going on at Polyglotnal… Pimpernalgynal… Po-po-po-poooo… the interactive entertainment criticism teepee. Instead of getting too deep into this forum/twitter echo chamber, why not write to some people who will listen to interested, involved readers that are polite and articulate in their complaints? No, no—I’m not talking about writing to Waylon Jennings. He’s dead.

Writing to the executives at Vox Media (or any other company that has a lack of the professionalisms) and pointing out what is going on with some of their employees, in a very public place on the internet, will get some attention. Claiming that your views don’t represent the company while using the company's identity to represent yourself is not some wicked force field. Force fields are wicked on their own.

Anyway, the reason you do this--instead of starting at the EIC--is that the EIC at many of these “publications” is akin to a clueless manager at a PayLess ShoeSource. His employees are yelling “F-off, you dimpsy nerdburgers!” at customers, and he just tells them to quiet down because he can’t concentrate on sexting his girlfriend in Quebec. Shoes are called “chaussures” in French Canada, you know.

If you write something like “Dear Mr./Mrs./Ms./Hyperion, I would like to bring to your attention some unprofessional behavior by your employees. I only have a month to live! Send rice. Godspeed!” these suits will likely take note, and at most—take ACTION. Not Schwarzenegger “Get to da choppa!” high action, but some action that will hopefully brush these guys back from the edge and plop them into whichever reality cashes their paychecks. Don’t demand anyone be fired. Don’t urge everyone to Wang Chung tonight. Just point out that this unprofessional behavior might be hurting their brand. Excluding governments, this method will often get someone’s attention.

That’s it really. I know my reply is long, but I have been sliding around in the dark corners for soooo long. And the pancakes, man... they don’t understand my needs.

Thanks for the entertaining threads!

Hey, Don Johnson! I’m looking for a heartbeat, too, buddy!

I bet half cooked pancakes on your chest feels amazing.

 

[stktt]

I usually just hide in the shadows--sniffing glue and thinking of new ways to take on Reginald Heuwurth, CPA--but this post, and its ilk, has pushed me to comment.

With my copious amount of free time, I’m usually wont to read every post of a thread, followed by pressing half-cooked pancakes to my bare chest… the goopy, puss-like pancake batter burning straight to my heart. It is literally the only way I can feel alive any more…

*sigh*

The universe.

Where was I?

Having read every post and considering every point and counterpoint, I think I have some advice for those of you in here who want to improve what is going on at Polyglotnal… Pimpernalgynal… Po-po-po-poooo… the interactive entertainment criticism teepee. Instead of getting too deep into this forum/twitter echo chamber, why not write to some people who will listen to interested, involved readers that are polite and articulate in their complaints? No, no—I’m not talking about writing to Waylon Jennings. He’s dead.

Writing to the executives at Vox Media (or any other company that has a lack of the professionalisms) and pointing out what is going on with some of their employees, in a very public place on the internet, will get some attention. Claiming that your views don’t represent the company while using the company's identity to represent yourself is not some wicked force field. Force fields are wicked on their own.

Anyway, the reason you do this--instead of starting at the EIC--is that the EIC at many of these “publications” is akin to a clueless manager at a PayLess ShoeSource. His employees are yelling “F-off, you dimpsy nerdburgers!” at customers, and he just tells them to quiet down because he can’t concentrate on sexting his girlfriend in Quebec. Shoes are called “chaussures” in French Canada, you know.

If you write something like “Dear Mr./Mrs./Ms./Hyperion, I would like to bring to your attention some unprofessional behavior by your employees. I only have a month to live! Send rice. Godspeed!” these suits will likely take note, and at most—take ACTION. Not Schwarzenegger “Get to da choppa!” high action, but some action that will hopefully brush these guys back from the edge and plop them into whichever reality cashes their paychecks. Don’t demand anyone be fired. Don’t urge everyone to Wang Chung tonight. Just point out that this unprofessional behavior might be hurting their brand. Excluding governments, this method will often get someone’s attention.

That’s it really. I know my reply is long, but I have been sliding around in the dark corners for soooo long. And the pancakes, man... they don’t understand my needs.

Thanks for the entertaining threads!

Hey, Don Johnson! I’m looking for a heartbeat, too, buddy!

Try fully cooking those pancakes.

 

[Joe Shlabotnik]

It peaked with the Payless joke, and overdid the Weird Al-esque randomness, but it was still very practical, insightful advice.

And that Payless paragraph really was gold.

 

[VeryGooster]

I usually just hide in the shadows--sniffing glue and thinking of new ways to take on Reginald Heuwurth, CPA--but this post, and its ilk, has pushed me to comment.

With my copious amount of free time, I’m usually wont to read every post of a thread, followed by pressing half-cooked pancakes to my bare chest… the goopy, puss-like pancake batter burning straight to my heart. It is literally the only way I can feel alive any more…

*sigh*

The universe.

Where was I?

Having read every post and considering every point and counterpoint, I think I have some advice for those of you in here who want to improve what is going on at Polyglotnal… Pimpernalgynal… Po-po-po-poooo… the interactive entertainment criticism teepee. Instead of getting too deep into this forum/twitter echo chamber, why not write to some people who will listen to interested, involved readers that are polite and articulate in their complaints? No, no—I’m not talking about writing to Waylon Jennings. He’s dead.

Writing to the executives at Vox Media (or any other company that has a lack of the professionalisms) and pointing out what is going on with some of their employees, in a very public place on the internet, will get some attention. Claiming that your views don’t represent the company while using the company's identity to represent yourself is not some wicked force field. Force fields are wicked on their own.

Anyway, the reason you do this--instead of starting at the EIC--is that the EIC at many of these “publications” is akin to a clueless manager at a PayLess ShoeSource. His employees are yelling “F-off, you dimpsy nerdburgers!” at customers, and he just tells them to quiet down because he can’t concentrate on sexting his girlfriend in Quebec. Shoes are called “chaussures” in French Canada, you know.

If you write something like “Dear Mr./Mrs./Ms./Hyperion, I would like to bring to your attention some unprofessional behavior by your employees. I only have a month to live! Send rice. Godspeed!” these suits will likely take note, and at most—take ACTION. Not Schwarzenegger “Get to da choppa!” high action, but some action that will hopefully brush these guys back from the edge and plop them into whichever reality cashes their paychecks. Don’t demand anyone be fired. Don’t urge everyone to Wang Chung tonight. Just point out that this unprofessional behavior might be hurting their brand. Excluding governments, this method will often get someone’s attention.

That’s it really. I know my reply is long, but I have been sliding around in the dark corners for soooo long. And the pancakes, man... they don’t understand my needs.

Thanks for the entertaining threads!

Hey, Don Johnson! I’m looking for a heartbeat, too, buddy!

I thought this was a pretty decent post. Maybe a 7/10, but since this is a Polygon thread that converts to around 11/10.

 

[NoirVisage]

It peaked with the Payless joke, and overdid the Weird Al-esque randomness, but it was still very practical, insightful advice.

And that Payless paragraph really was gold.

He's actually giving great advice through the thick haze of "WT*??!!"
But i'm a bit biased.

 

[SouthernDragon]

I don't know what that post is referencing.

 

[choodi]

Is there a reason Polygon is not on the banned sites list?

It seems that every other day there is a new thread pointing out their utter hypocrisy, unprofessional behaviour, poor journalistic skills, click baiting and general shittiness.

Won't somebody think of the children..?

 

[Zissou]

there's a whole laundry list of ways it ruins discourse:

- allows user to "hold court" in public amongst only trusted peers and sycophants.
- viral tagging system serves as a shit beacon for anyone else allied by circumstance.
- zero room for articulation, depth or rationale; all that's left are vapid statements and aloof allusions.
- encourages grammar which would make an AIM tween blush.
- perfect battleground for passive aggressive snipefests where just about anyone can carve out 200 odd characters of abbreviated nothing, call it a day and sign off on only the most positive feedback.

it astonishes me that so many game journalists, who have long looked down on forums as a kind of base arena of plebeian brutality, have the hypocrisy to find refuge in the pestilent wasteland of fractured conversation that is twitter. have a little self respect.

Agreed 100%

 

[Deleted member 17706]

I don't know what that post is referencing.

Does something need to be referenced to be funny?

I got a laugh out of it. Excellent first post, and I hope the person continues to make more posts like it in the future.

 

[NoirVisage]

Arthur needs to purify himself in lake rockpapershotgun.

*Arthur nakedly climbs into lake kotaku*

That's not lake rockpapershotgun.

*Arthur blushes and clasps at his breasts*

Ha Ha, i watched that part on the VHS my parents own..A LOT *___*

 

[gnomed]

As silly as it is to admit it, gaming magazines are what got me into journalism (EGM specifically--I still remember the first issue I bought in an Electronics Boutique as a wee lad).

I had always kind of thought I could write for EGM once I finished school. Even in college, it popped into my head every now and then. I even wrote off and on for a few smaller websites--just news and reviews, nothing super exciting but I did get paid a little for it, which was nice.

But EGM was shuttered by the time I finished undergrad, so that dream sort of fizzled. Worked for a bit, then went back to school.

Now I've got a BA and an MA in journalism, but the gaming press as it is now just disgusts me. So-called journalists bickering on Twitter like high school girls, publicly whining about another outlet securing an exclusive early review, the whole ugly Wainwright fiasco...the whole industry is rotten to the core, and it's just so, so goddamn depressing.

There are a few writers and outlets that seem to still understand what they're supposed to be doing as members of the press, but they're far, far outnumbered by people like Gies and Crecente.

EDIT: Oh damn nobody's going to even see this after frosty's post, are they? Good show, frosty.

I read your post. But, HAHa @ frosty.

Anyways, I can relate the same sentiments. At one time in my childhood, becoming a game magazine worker seemed like a dream job. Getting to play the latest games, talking and writing about them. It's nirvana for most kids who aren't as bright as the busybodies. It even surpassed my own ideal job, when seeking involvement in development, but alas not everyone will land a dream gig.

 

[_woLf]

Arthur Gies is a scumbag who doesn't care care for anyone besides of himself and whatever bad site he's writing for at that time. Brian Crecente is...well, Brian Crecente.

This comes as no shock at all to me, really.

 

[cackhyena]

Arthur Gies is a scumbag who doesn't care care for anyone besides of himself and whatever bad site he's writing for at that time. Brian Crecente is...well, Brian Crecente.

This comes as no shock at all to me, really.

I'm sure that's all true and not hyperbole in the least...

 

[NoirVisage]

I'm sure that's all true and not hyperbole in the least...

Are you saying Brian Crecente ISN'T Brian Crecente??

 

[J-Rzez]

I don't get the hate for Twitter.

Well one example I can give for twitter is when developers use it as their main communication for their game, and this applies to reddit as well, and forget about their official forums for discussion. I've seen devs ask for input on reddit and twitter, but no posts from them on their official forums. SOE is a prime example of this with Planetside 2 for example. All about getting those "trends" up. They also try to say "on reddit ppl can tell me to eat shit and be honest, but they can't do that on our own forums". When patch notes, news, and input is taken from those sites but can't be even found on their own official forums and you have to follow team members on twitter for info on a game you like it's frustrating as hell.

 

[Lunar15]

Did Microsoft really waste their money backing these guys?

Advertising on =/= backing.

 

[Derrick01]

I don't get the hate for Twitter.

It allows one to participate in endless circle jerks of stupidity where they can instantly shut down whoever tries to put a stop to it. The character limit is actually the best thing about Twitter since it stops people from spewing even longer messages of horseshit.

 

[Neuromancer]

You're a strange man, frostyxc, but not altogether unlikeable.

 

[cackhyena]

Are you saying Brian Crecente ISN'T Brian Crecente??

I'll need waaay more evidence. I mean c'mon.

 

[dLMN8R]

I've always had some issues with Arthur but overall don't mind him too much, even on Rebel FM. I'll still listen to the podcast for the other guys on there, and still don't think Arthur's too bad, but god damn has he dug himself into a (well-earned) hole these past couple weeks for his arrogance and over-confidence in developers with a vested interest taking advantage of his gullibility. He's just needed to shut the hell up already, apologize for his statements, and move on.


One thing though.


The "omg Rebel FM donations" meme needs to die. I cannot comprehend why that is still an issue. Rebel FM asked for donations from fans, fans donated money - far more than would ever be necessary for material costs to create the show - so they used a small portion of it to build a gaming PC for one of the hosts on that show who couldn't afford one.

That host has now been on 100+ episodes, has spend hundreds of hours podcasting, and has used that gaming PC to play tons of games he's talked about on the show in great depth. Games like Day Z that no one else on the show had the time or desire to play.

I didn't donate, but if I had, 100+ episodes later I'd still consider it a worthy use of the donation dollars. Of everything and anything they could spend that donation money on to make a better podcast, building a gaming PC for a loyal regular host of the show who couldn't afford one for himself and has used it well for the last 2+ years is a no-brainer.

 

[JeffGreen]

I usually just hide in the shadows--sniffing glue and thinking of new ways to take on Reginald Heuwurth, CPA--but this post, and its ilk, has pushed me to comment.

With my copious amount of free time, I’m usually wont to read every post of a thread, followed by pressing half-cooked pancakes to my bare chest… the goopy, puss-like pancake batter burning straight to my heart. It is literally the only way I can feel alive any more…

*sigh*

The universe.

Where was I?

Having read every post and considering every point and counterpoint, I think I have some advice for those of you in here who want to improve what is going on at Polyglotnal… Pimpernalgynal… Po-po-po-poooo… the interactive entertainment criticism teepee. Instead of getting too deep into this forum/twitter echo chamber, why not write to some people who will listen to interested, involved readers that are polite and articulate in their complaints? No, no—I’m not talking about writing to Waylon Jennings. He’s dead.

Writing to the executives at Vox Media (or any other company that has a lack of the professionalisms) and pointing out what is going on with some of their employees, in a very public place on the internet, will get some attention. Claiming that your views don’t represent the company while using the company's identity to represent yourself is not some wicked force field. Force fields are wicked on their own.

Anyway, the reason you do this--instead of starting at the EIC--is that the EIC at many of these “publications” is akin to a clueless manager at a PayLess ShoeSource. His employees are yelling “F-off, you dimpsy nerdburgers!” at customers, and he just tells them to quiet down because he can’t concentrate on sexting his girlfriend in Quebec. Shoes are called “chaussures” in French Canada, you know.

If you write something like “Dear Mr./Mrs./Ms./Hyperion, I would like to bring to your attention some unprofessional behavior by your employees. I only have a month to live! Send rice. Godspeed!” these suits will likely take note, and at most—take ACTION. Not Schwarzenegger “Get to da choppa!” high action, but some action that will hopefully brush these guys back from the edge and plop them into whichever reality cashes their paychecks. Don’t demand anyone be fired. Don’t urge everyone to Wang Chung tonight. Just point out that this unprofessional behavior might be hurting their brand. Excluding governments, this method will often get someone’s attention.

That’s it really. I know my reply is long, but I have been sliding around in the dark corners for soooo long. And the pancakes, man... they don’t understand my needs.

Thanks for the entertaining threads!

Hey, Don Johnson! I’m looking for a heartbeat, too, buddy!

Just came in to say this is a fantastic post. 10/10. I hope you are getting paid to write for a living.

 

[AlexBasch]

I usually just hide in the shadows--sniffing glue and thinking of new ways to take on Reginald Heuwurth, CPA--but this post, and its ilk, has pushed me to comment.

With my copious amount of free time, I’m usually wont to read every post of a thread, followed by pressing half-cooked pancakes to my bare chest… the goopy, puss-like pancake batter burning straight to my heart. It is literally the only way I can feel alive any more…

I have never done drugs outside of tobacco and alcohol.

But I wouldn't mind having whatever you're using.

 

[Hydrogen Bluebird]

This is why gaming sites and publications should only hire people with actual journalism degrees and have at least work in other types of journalism in the past (or do something close or similar).

These people wouldn't pass as journalist in other more serious (sorry for the lack of a better term) industries.

 

[nomis]

Writing to the executives at Vox Media (or any other company that has a lack of the professionalisms) and pointing out what is going on with some of their employees, in a very public place on the internet, will get some attention. Claiming that your views don’t represent the company while using the company's identity to represent yourself is not some wicked force field. Force fields are wicked on their own.

Anyway, the reason you do this--instead of starting at the EIC--is that the EIC at many of these “publications” is akin to a clueless manager at a PayLess ShoeSource. His employees are yelling “F-off, you dimpsy nerdburgers!” at customers, and he just tells them to quiet down because he can’t concentrate on sexting his girlfriend in Quebec. Shoes are called “chaussures” in French Canada, you know.

If you write something like “Dear Mr./Mrs./Ms./Hyperion, I would like to bring to your attention some unprofessional behavior by your employees. I only have a month to live! Send rice. Godspeed!” these suits will likely take note, and at most—take ACTION. Not Schwarzenegger “Get to da choppa!” high action, but some action that will hopefully brush these guys back from the edge and plop them into whichever reality cashes their paychecks. Don’t demand anyone be fired. Don’t urge everyone to Wang Chung tonight. Just point out that this unprofessional behavior might be hurting their brand. Excluding governments, this method will often get someone’s attention.

Hey, Don Johnson! I’m looking for a heartbeat, too, buddy!

Just came in to say this is a fantastic post. 10/10. I hope you are getting paid to write for a living.

Yeah nevermind making a first GAF post half this good. I wish I could write this well, period.

EDIT: Oh shit I didn't even realize I quoted black dragon

 

[Victrix]

This seems like a good post, but could you shorten it down to 140 characters so I can read it?

I liked this as much as the other post

Fuck twitter for all time. People having conversations on there is bad enough, people quoting those fucking conversations here on GAF is a plague and I hope it dies.

 

[Paranerd]

This is why gaming sites and publications should only hire people with actual journalism degrees and have at least work in other types of journalism in the past (or do something close or similar).

These people wouldn't pass as journalist in other more serious (sorry for the lack of a better term) industries.

Apparently Crecente used to write about crime, etc. for newspapers.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Brian_Crecente

 

[Hydrogen Bluebird]

Apparently Crecente used to write about crime, etc. for newspapers.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Brian_Crecente

Well what the hell happened to him?

Games journalism not having actual standards or ethics?

 

[Evlar]

We're approaching a Dyack event, I think.