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PokéBOMB 2: Electric Boogaloo (New X and Y info)
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I mean, seriously. You can't beat this.
Taken in Yodobashi Camera, Akihabara.
That's really neat. I remember years and years ago ordering a Mewtwo/Mew and Pikachu/Raichu battle scene statue similar to that on eBay and not getting them because they were out of stock. I cried.
This new Mewtwo reminds me of Majin Buu with the head tail (rat tail, cousin of the mullet). I'll probably grow to like it, though.
tumblr, search in Mew, Mewtwo, or Mewthree
holy shit :lol :lol
I'm dying.
Watch Da Birdie
I buy cakes for myself on my birthday it's not weird lots of people do it I bet
I still hope we get an "Ancient Form" for Genesect. Dude's way cooler than Mewtwo or Newtwo. Although, the Movie Site hinted that there was some "mystery wrapped in a crimson veil" regarding Red Genesect, and for awhile I wondered if there's some all-new Pokemon powering it...would be pretty odd if it ends up being THIS Newtwo.
Actually, it probably doesn't. Well, I think the Pokemon we saw in the original trailer have good chances, but I wouldn't be surprised if they randomly picked Pokemon for the Sylveon and Mewtwo "trailers".
Not exactly the same situation, but I recall a lot of Diamond and Pearl coverage before it was released having a "fake" Regional Dex...for example, the June issue had Scizor, Wooper, and Butterfree used to demonstrate the Gender Differences, but in the actual Diamond and Pearl, they weren't in the Regional Dex.
Actually, it probably doesn't. Well, I think the Pokemon we saw in the original trailer have good chances, but I wouldn't be surprised if they randomly picked Pokemon for the Sylveon and Mewtwo "trailers".
Not exactly the same situation, but I recall a lot of Diamond and Pearl coverage before it was released having a "fake" Regional Dex...for example, the June issue had Scizor, Wooper, and Butterfree used to demonstrate the Gender Differences, but in the actual Diamond and Pearl, they weren't in the Regional Dex.
those powerful, piercing eyes.
XxBlackHulkxX
Member
So it's either a form of Mewtwo or one of those "next gen pallet swaps".
I don't mind his design, but nothing can top the perfection that is Mewtwo:
Great, looks like I just fell into this rabbit hole of figurines now. Just ordered one.
BishopLamont
Banned
They should've changed how the "tail" steams from the head, a massive bulge coming from the head looks a bit off. Its probably some experiment with Mew/Mewtwo, in the same way that Genesect came to be (and Mewtwo I suppose).
Its definitely a design that shines more in-game, in motion, in art, rather than the official static image.
Its definitely a design that shines more in-game, in motion, in art, rather than the official static image.
Lord_Byron28
Member
This guy has to be a smash character whether replacing lucario or perhaps they could have a Mew trio as a character. He seems like this gens Lucario to me anyway. With this game possibly having to do with DNA, I wonder if that's why there are now two revealled pokemon thay are related to gen 1 pokemon. This definetly feels like an expansion generation akin to gen 2 & 4 than the fresh start gens in gen 1, 3 & 5
MrCookiepants
Member
I wasn't sure at first, but that new 3D art style can make anything look amazing. I prefer him to old Mewtwo, if only because he doesn't have those creepy breasts.
Watch Da Birdie
I buy cakes for myself on my birthday it's not weird lots of people do it I bet
Even though the leaked poster seems to hint at his being a New Mewtwo Form, I'd be interested if this was a "Phione" version of Mewtwo.
In other words, similar stats and move-set, but weakened a slight bit allowing it to be used in Official Tournaments and in-game Battle Arena Locations where normal Mewtwo would be banned.
In other words, similar stats and move-set, but weakened a slight bit allowing it to be used in Official Tournaments and in-game Battle Arena Locations where normal Mewtwo would be banned.
SenorArdilla
Member
Dead.
WrenchNinja
Member
Goes from menacing creature that blew up the Cinnabar lab and carved his way through Cerulean cave to become the toughest Pokemon...to tiny furball. I guess this resembles Mew more. He just looks really goofy and hard to take seriously.
SpeedySwaf
Member
I sorta think this might be a "child" of Mewtwo. Perhaps the movie will partially be about Mewtwo dealing with the fact he was cloned, in a reversal of his angst in the first movie about being a clone.
The Broken Ska Record
Member
I've been pretty open to most of the changes in this gen, but I hate MewHalf here.
Need link to purchase, plz.
It's also one of my favorite things, but I also feel like with so many legendaries, they become less special.
Like Mew for instance. Mew isn't even very good anymore. There are four other Mew clones. If you say you like Mew, someone will say Jirachi is better.
Usually, I'd say a solution would be to have a large number of not quite legendary Pokemon that are still one per game. Pokemon like Snorlax, Lapras, Sudowoodo, etc would be good candidates but since all non-legendaries can breed infinitely, it doesn't really work.
Also, I hate how many legendaries you just can't catch by playing the games. I like that you can get both Lugia and Ho-oh in Gold and Silver.
Dion Blaster
Member
It looks like they moved his tail and put it on his head. Who would have thought this is what Mewthree would be.
QisTopTier
XisBannedTier
Holy shit that voltorb LOL
XxBlackHulkxX
Member
I just realized how many joints his tail has
...how much is this again?
For the most part I've seen anywhere from $38(sold out) to around $54. I got mine from amazon.
Not sure if someone mentioned something like this before in this thread but:
Why should this be a new form for Mewtwo? Mewtwo is not a different form of Mew, but a clone. What if it's another clone attempt and therefore a separate pokemon. I think that would tie in pretty well with the speculations on XY focusing on genetics.
Also, it might be a "baby" Mewtwo like Phione is to Manaphy, not being able to evolve into Mewtwo. Again making kind of a separate entity.
Why should this be a new form for Mewtwo? Mewtwo is not a different form of Mew, but a clone. What if it's another clone attempt and therefore a separate pokemon. I think that would tie in pretty well with the speculations on XY focusing on genetics.
Also, it might be a "baby" Mewtwo like Phione is to Manaphy, not being able to evolve into Mewtwo. Again making kind of a separate entity.
That's it. We are done here.
BishopLamont
Banned
Mew is OG. Stop hatin.
I just don't really get it. Less "special" maybe relative to other legendaries, but you still have to work to obtain each one, and they're all still (generally) limited to one per game.
I understand there's a certain desensitization to that excitement you derive from finding a legendary when there are a ton of them, but to be fair, no one is forcing you to get all of them. And it's still pretty damn satisfying when you obtain the mascot legendaries, irrespective of how many others there are.
I would argue the excitement just gets diluted over the course of obtaining them all. The first few legendaries you find in a game, whether they are among five or fifteen, will always feel special.
I understand there's a certain desensitization to that excitement you derive from finding a legendary when there are a ton of them, but to be fair, no one is forcing you to get all of them. And it's still pretty damn satisfying when you obtain the mascot legendaries, irrespective of how many others there are.
I would argue the excitement just gets diluted over the course of obtaining them all. The first few legendaries you find in a game, whether they are among five or fifteen, will always feel special.
Watch Da Birdie
I buy cakes for myself on my birthday it's not weird lots of people do it I bet
Actually, in the games Mewtwo isn't a clone...Mew gave birth to it, and then they modified its genes:
Only in the Anime Canon is it a clone. I actually like the Anime Plot better though, but regardless both touch upon the idea of humanity tampering with nature and the effects thereof.
K
kittens
Unconfirmed Member
cubetorb is amazzzzzing
You can just walk out of here with that BS "Your opinion is invalid because you liked this as a kid" garbage. Dismissing and disparaging opinions with the whisp of nostalgia does jack all for discussions. You want to talk about cat fetuses, fine, but this nostalgia bullshit can take a fucking hike.
And for the record, I think asshead Mewtwo looks like crap. OG Mewtwo looks like a goddamn Space Cat God, and Asshead Mewtwo has his ass glued to the back of his head.
That is kind of what cloning is though. You implant a modified embryo into a surrogate mother and then it is born like a normal baby.
This is where it's at.
MisterNegative
Banned
Mr Fuji ? The old peaceful man who prayed and looked after the graves of dead pokemon ? Who would of known he would be involved in horrible experiments ? Plus the connection to Blaine ?
Just how deep is this conspiracy ?
Watch Da Birdie
I buy cakes for myself on my birthday it's not weird lots of people do it I bet
Well, I guess...but what I was getting at is that in the games Mewtwo was, presumably, birthed by Mew and altered, so he was technically its son, when in the show he was simply a clone made from a piece of Mew's DNA...just one hair, if I recall correctly.
Yeah, there's little hints to this in the game...the Manga takes it further and makes it more obvious, while the Anime brings it up as well as the scientist who creates Mewtwo there is named Dr. Fuji, although he's basically a different character. Both introduce the element of Team Rocket though, who in the games aren't connected to Mewtwo at all, or at least there's no evidence of it, but I like the idea that they were funding it like the Manga suggests.
Yeah, there's little hints to this in the game...the Manga takes it further and makes it more obvious, while the Anime brings it up as well as the scientist who creates Mewtwo there is named Dr. Fuji, although he's basically a different character. Both introduce the element of Team Rocket though, who in the games aren't connected to Mewtwo at all, or at least there's no evidence of it, but I like the idea that they were funding it like the Manga suggests.
But nowhere in the games does it say that that is how Mewtwo is born. In fact, judging from the Pokedex entries claiming Mewtwo's attitude comes from the experiments, I always figured that he was born a normal Mew and then experimented on.
The game just says Mew gave birth to Mewtwo, though. Never does it say that she was impregnated artificially.
Also the crazy part is that nice Mr. Fuji is hinted at being involved with the whole thing. Maybe he spends his time with Pokemon in Lavender town to atone for what he did on Cinnabar.
to be fair, you only think that because you're accustomed to seeing the appendage as a tail
to be fair, you only think that because you're accustomed to seeing the appendage as a tail
If they had not wanted comparisons drawn between Asshead and Mewtwo, they should not have given them similar designs. People will compare Plusle and Minun to Pikachu because they look alike. Asshead and Mewtwo are compared on these same, entirely legitimate, grounds.
Man, can you imagine how the "Gen 1 forever" crowd would react if this form was in the original 151 and the original Mewtwo were the new Pokémon?
"I literally gagged, he's so overdesigned, why's there a tube connecting in his neck, why's he all crooked with big goofy bunny feet."
"I literally gagged, he's so overdesigned, why's there a tube connecting in his neck, why's he all crooked with big goofy bunny feet."
Watch Da Birdie
I buy cakes for myself on my birthday it's not weird lots of people do it I bet
I've actually started to wonder if this Pokemon is actually Mewtwo's father who knocked up Mew in the games.
Oh, I never played red\blue\yellow or the remakes so my bad. (I never got to choose a starter *cry*!)
But okay, it could still be the results of tampering with another Mew embryo.
My problem with his design is the deformed look. Mewtwo taller and more menacing look made it different than Mew.
This new guy is more of a Mew evo than Mewtwo in that sense.
tl;dr does he even lift?
Well I'm just saying, that's literally nostalgia talking. There's nothing wrong with feeling that way, but it's denying reality to claim otherwise.
(what I mean is, it's not an invalid opinion, but it's obviously an opinion influenced by nostalgia)
But several Pokedex entries reference Mewtwo being "created". If you look at the journal entries found in the Pokemon mansion they're pretty vague about the whole thing. One entry mentions Mew being discovered and another mentions Mew giving birth but it doesn't talk about what happened in between.
No, it's not, and I'm getting kinda sick of everybody saying anybody not onboard with the new design is being utterly directed by nostalgia, because such a claim is bullshit. It might well be a difference in aesthetic tastes, but it does not have to be fucking nostalgia. I don't like Mewtwo's design over this one because I grew up with it, I like Mewtwo's design because it is sleek and imposing. I don't like this new design because it's Mewtwo's design with his ass on his head.
What you're claiming is that I only find that disagreeable because I grew up used to seeing a tail as a tail. What you're claiming is that if I suddenly saw someone with a goddamn ass on the back of their head, I'd just be nostalgic for the good ol' days when fucking asses did not belong on the back of a skull. Which is preposterous.