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[AHA-Lambda]

It is some kind of RPG to note, but they call it "highly ambitious", so it might not be entirely standard.

Or it could just mean they're spending assloads of money.

Might & Magic MMO? =/

 

[pot]

Wow, this looks like a 2005 game. Mark my words, this game will fail as a PvP game since it is all instanced.

 

[ii Stryker]

If it's in that state now and is due to come out later this year, it's probably not going to change much. At least, not enough to matter.

I'm sure in its beta form not all graphical/gameplay features are implemented plus its the beginning tutorial area of the game. They've also said that they are working on a first person mode which is clearly not implemented in the beta.

I find it difficult to judge something that was obtained through dishonesty.

 

[RoKKeR]

Yes but keep Wildstar on your radar also,it has more personality and from what i saw and atmosphere then what this MMO never could have.

I've only done the smallest bit of looking at Wildstar, but what makes it different than most MMO's today? It looks so familiar.

 

[Nokterian]

I've only done the smallest bit of looking at Wildstar, but what makes it different than most MMO's today? It looks so familiar.

One of the coolest things shown so far.

Housing in Wildstar

But Totalbiscuit made a video also with a playthrough you should look it up.

 

[JORMBO]

Looks like complete shit.

 

[Jaleel]

Sigh, 2013 and this is still what MMOs look like. Haven't had a nice visual bump in a good ten years and it's getting old. GW2 looks better :/

Guild Wars 2 does indeed look better.

It appears that when MMO's take the realistic looking route they always end up unappealing. The development cycle is so long that by the time the game actually releases it looks dated. Going for a more "artsy" aesthetic seems to be the way to go in my opinion.

 

[Scoica]

looks awful.

 

[Ashodin]

Guild Wars 2 does indeed look better.

It appears that when MMO's take the realistic looking route they always end up looking unappealing. The development cycle is so long that by the time the game actually releases it looks dated. Going for a more "artsy" aesthetic seems to be the way to go in my opinion.

Stylized graphics will do wonders for your look for years to come, definitely. Unless you're running on Planetside 2's engine

 

[RaffAO]

Derivative garbage doomed to fail. If I worked at Bethesda I would be furious with senior management.

 

[mysteriousmage09]

Except he's not?

Maybe they don't have higher quality assets in that build and the options mean nothing, but it's certainly not that guy's fault.

Man, that shut the people defending the games shitty style up damn fast.

 

[AlphaDump]

Ugh, my friend is working on this and he invited me to the beta, never accepted it though.

I'm not sure I should show him this thread. Damn.

 

[Psychoward]

Wow, this looks like a 2005 game. Mark my words, this game will fail as a PvP game since it is all instanced.

It's all instanced? :/ Wut

 

[Confidence Man]

The fog does remind me of Morrowind, so I guess it's kind of like an Elder Scrolls game.

 

[Zomba13]

Sigh, 2013 and this is still what MMOs look like. Haven't had a nice visual bump in a good ten years and it's getting old. GW2 looks better :/

Look at TERA or FFXIV if you want a good looking MMO. Those both look great.

 

[Chance Hale]

Look at TERA or FFXIV if you want a good looking MMO. Those both look great.

And the Secret World looks even better than those!

And as I said a few pages ago, I really can't believe this is how the game looks. Looks out dated even by 2010 standards, alpha or some sort of glitch. I won't believe it, I won't!

 

[Darryl]

looks kinda bad, I hope everquest next is good. I am sick of theme park mmos.

if EQ Next is shit than I'm quitting MMOs. they're the only ones i haven't lost faith in yet.

One of the coolest things shown so far.

Housing in Wildstar

But Totalbiscuit made a video also with a playthrough you should look it up.

that game took the toony MMO look and cranked it up to max. i just can't get into that.

Look at TERA or FFXIV if you want a good looking MMO. Those both look great.

FFXIV is stunning, such a gorgeous game.

 

[Divvy]

And the Secret World looks even better than those!

And as I said a few pages ago, I really can't believe this is how the game looks. Looks out dated even by 2010 standards, alpha or some sort of glitch. I won't believe it, I won't!

The Elder Scrolls games have always had a complete and utter lack of art direction which is only saved sort of by fairly good tech. Now when you have to cater to lower spec machines for an MMO, the lack of artistry makes it look even worse.

 

[Foffy]

So, this is up there with TORtanic and FFXIV 1.0 in that this will very likely be a disaster when it comes out, right?

 

[Nokterian]

if EQ Next is shit than I'm quitting MMOs. they're the only ones i haven't lost faith in yet.



that game took the toony MMO look and cranked it up to max. i just can't get into that.



FFXIV is stunning, such a gorgeous game.

The toony look reminds me more of Jak and Dexter or Ratched and Clank hell even a bit Warcraft. I like this kinda style not all have to be a serious tone.

 

[RoKKeR]

One of the coolest things shown so far.

Housing in Wildstar

But Totalbiscuit made a video also with a playthrough you should look it up.

Looks neat, love the art style.

 

[Zukuu]

So, is the gameplay visible anywhere else? YT vid is down.

 

[xelios]

Ugh, worse than I expected and I expected it to be pretty bad. I'll forgive you once I get my SP ES set in Elsweyr.

 

[etiolate]

This is early beta. The game very likely won't look like this at release. The reason there are NDAs on these early beta tests is because the game is testing systems and isn't yet ready for public consumption.

I'm not saying it will drastically turn into something else, but that early tests of MMOs tend to look jank and are normally just a drop of what the game offers.


Also, I'm a bit tired of MMOs being left to blame for everything. EA and Blizzard pretty much threw blame for their DRM onto "oh its an MMO pretty much". If this game has issues then its nothing new for the ES series. The combat in those games are bad. MMOs don't have to mean bad combat. If the game has problems then that's due to inexperience or mistakes. Guild Wars 2 was highly received and successful for a reason. It's a good game. Being an MMO didn't seem to stop it from having exploration or platforming or good combat. Stop blaming MMOs for companies that lack vision.

 

[Ashodin]

Ugh, worse than I expected and I expected it to be pretty bad. I'll forgive you once I get my SP ES set in Elsweyr.

Gonna be waiting half a decade for that

 

[Darryl]

The toony look reminds me more of Jak and Dexter or Ratched and Clank hell even a bit Warcraft. I like this kinda style not all have to be a serious tone.

ya it looks like they cloned WoWs art style and somehow made it look even cheaper.

 

[gogojira]

Really crossing my fingers (like a few others in here) that EQ Next is truly as different as SOE is claiming. I'm so tired of the same old bullshit. The big reveal will be coming in July so I'm counting down the days.

 

[Camp Lo]

Haven't been able to see it but if it looks better than GW2, I'll definitely try it and if not, fuck it.

 

[Grief.exe]

Anyone have a direct download of the OP video?

From reading the thread, my one question to Bethesda is, did you not even watch what happened to TOR?

that game took the toony MMO look and cranked it up to max. i just can't get into that.

Passing on a game because of aesthetics doesn't make sense.

 

[Darkmakaimura]

Look at TERA or FFXIV if you want a good looking MMO. Those both look great.

I checked out Tera earlier on YouTube and it looked nice but damn, there was tons of pop in. Maybe it was the guy's settings.

 

[Deleted member 17706]

I'm sure in its beta form not all graphical/gameplay features are implemented plus its the beginning tutorial area of the game. They've also said that they are working on a first person mode which is clearly not implemented in the beta.

I find it difficult to judge something that was obtained through dishonesty.

Just about every MMORPG in existence launches in more or less the same state as when it went into beta. I'm sure we can expect a better looking interface, but I highly doubt those shitty graphics or that terrible jankiness will go away.

 

[Darryl]

Passing on a game because of aesthetics doesn't make sense.

if it was a single-player game, sure. i agree with you there. it's completely different to me when it comes to MMOs, gameplay often takes a backseat in those games. i can't spend months of my time grinding in unpleasing environments. i don't see why anyone would want to. i can see the style in Wildstar, it's like WoW meets Toon Town. just not for me.

 

[LAUGHTREY]

if it was a single-player game, sure. i agree with you there. it's completely different to me when it comes to MMOs, gameplay often takes a backseat in those games. i can't spend months of my time grinding in unpleasing environments. i don't see why anyone would want to. i can see the style in Wildstar, it's like WoW meets Toon Town. just not for me.

heheh, what? WoW looks like butthole and everyone still plays the beejesus out of it. Style or not, it could look a LOT better.

 

[SquiddyCracker]

*watches character fight mudcrabs*

Yeah, this type of MMOs need to die out asap.
Probably won't until WOW is dead (so another 10 years?).

 

[Wickerbasket]

heheh, what? WoW looks like butthole and everyone still plays the beejesus out of it. Style or not, it could look a LOT better.

I think WoW looks great, mostly due to it's art style and direction. It's definitely starting to look dated though.

Elder Scrolls Online just looks terrible, somehow managing to look worse than a 10 year old MMO.

 

[Darryl]

heheh, what? WoW looks like butthole and everyone still plays the beejesus out of it. Style or not, it could look a LOT better.

i'm sure a lot of WoW's success today is based on legacy from back when it was still looking great, which it definitely was back in the day.

 

[Grief.exe]

if it was a single-player game, sure. i agree with you there. it's completely different to me when it comes to MMOs, gameplay often takes a backseat in those games. i can't spend months of my time grinding in unpleasing environments. i don't see why anyone would want to. i can see the style in Wildstar, it's like WoW meets Toon Town. just not for me.

I would still think gameplay would take a front seat.

I think that is one of the many reasons TOR had issues, people did not want to play vanilla wow in space.

I guess you could make the argument that the aesthetics in that game were pretty poor as well. The game looked horrible at launch, had muddy textures and no AA option.

 

[Liquid_Bike]

*watches character fight mudcrabs*

Yeah, this type of MMOs need to die out asap.
Probably won't until WOW is dead (so another 10 years?).

I believe the leaked internal documents from Blizzard show 2 more expansions. So that buys them about 4 years of content including patches. At which point Titan should be ready for prime time and we'll see what happens then.

 

[ii Stryker]

Just about every MMORPG in existence launches in more or less the same state as when it went into beta. I'm sure we can expect a better looking interface, but I highly doubt those shitty graphics or that terrible jankiness will go away.

Its like I said I think its unfair to judge an entire game, especially an MMO, based off of 12 minutes of stolen beta footage in the tutorial area.

I think the visuals are fine and the UI is serviceable. I'm more interested in seeing what the questing is like as a group, how many to a group, what the spells and abilities are and what the first person mode plays like.

Was I impressed with what I saw, no. Am I going to condemn the game as garbage because of it either, no.

 

[dmr87]

Welcome to the next MMO bomba.

 

[cpp_is_king]

"We're not using HeroEngine. We promise."

 

[Sax Russel]

Have they just gone too far and don't want to cancel it out of stubborn pride? Or do they actually think this will be a good product...

 

[Jarnet87]

Really crossing my fingers (like a few others in here) that EQ Next is truly as different as SOE is claiming. I'm so tired of the same old bullshit. The big reveal will be coming in July so I'm counting down the days.

I thought it was in August at the SoE event in Vegas? Either way I'm excited and nervous to see what it looks like. I really want it to have that hardcore EQ1 feel.

 

[Zoracka]

Here is a mirror of said video. (aaaaaand it's down)

Apparently this guy is playing with high/ultra graphic settings.

 

[Dresden]

Have they just gone too far and don't want to cancel it out of stubborn pride? Or do they actually think this will be a good product...

Recoup some of the cost via day one sales, go F2P in half a year.

 

[Arcteryx]

hahaha wow that looks AWFUL. Reminds me of TW2 on consoles.

 

[Quasar]

9 years later and people are still trying to copy WoW.

I thought it was EQ, but even that is just DikuMud.

Surprising how old it looks. Looks like a game that should have come out pre-LotRO.

 

[ambientmystic]

That's right Zenimax, keep chasing that monthly P2P MMO dragon.... only to fail like the other mega publishers who've attempted this before you and ultimately converted theirs to F2P due to a rapidly declining userbase.

Blizzard (WOW), Squenix (with FFXI) and CCP Games (EVE Online) are like the only 3 pubs who've managed to sustain that P2P model throughout the entirety of their MMO's lifetime and whose games are also still alive.

Reading the thread it seems like Ubisoft(?) is about to do the same too?

 

[mysteriousmage09]

Oh, for those that missed Eurogamer's article last month.

http://www.eurogamer.net/articles/2013-03-19-questing-for-freedom-in-the-elder-scrolls-online

The words 'theme park MMO' get thrown around a lot these days, but rarely have they felt more apt than during my four hours with The Elder Scrolls Online. If Skyrim, Cyrodiil and so on are worlds, TESO smacks of the World Showcase from Disney's Epcot - familiar sights remade in fibreglass to be admired but never seriously mistaken for the original. Not as many gift shops. Far more spiders. This time, the park owners will actively block your path until you agree to sit through the local equivalent of "O Canada". Still, the comparison fits.

I'd love to be wrong about this, and a few hours clearly isn't anything like enough time to get the measure of a whole MMORPG. It, however, is plenty of time to be disappointed by its direction. It's not that TESO isn't polished, professional or well crafted - in most of the details, it's as strong and accomplished and well-crafted as anything else out there. From the sections I got to play and the higher-end content demoed though, it feels like an MMO given an Elder Scrolls makeover, not The Elder Scrolls reinvented as an MMO.

Expecting Skyrim-style world simulation, freedom, depth and player agency is unrealistic in a game that has to handle thousands of players messing around, and unless things change radically as the story progresses, TESO doesn't try for that. Its world has an empty vibe to it, with very little interaction density and quest-givers just sitting around holding out for a hero. For the Daggerfall Covenant faction's starting area, the island of Stros M'Kai, that means helping a group of pirates rescue kidnapped colleagues and stealing goodies that inevitably don't mean much booty despite you doing all the hard work.

Want to skip out on that and swim down to the Summerset Isles instead? Or cross the world to see if Vvardenfell needs a hand? Tough. You can't even leave the island until you've done a generic fantasy heist made ridiculous by seeing several other people simultaneously bopping around in the same disguise to raid the same lockbox. There are a couple of moral choices, and optional assignments like rescuing characters who reappear later on based on whether or not they're still busy being tortured, but TESO starts with the expectation that you'll be happy to follow its lead rather than forge your own path.

The game will be an utter disgrace to the Elder Scrolls name.

 

[Zoracka]

Blizzard (WOW), Squenix (with FFXI) and CCP Games (EVE Online) are like the only 3 pubs who've managed to sustain that P2P model throughout the entirety of their MMO's lifetime and whose games are also still alive.

I do believe you can add Rift (Trion Worlds) to that list as well.