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PS Blog Video: Developers talk about the Dual Shock 4
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Don't care for it but you never know it could be used for anything they want.
Dead Prince
Banned
which translate to never using it outside of First party and those random Japanese dev trying to use everything and MM.
Sounds pretty awesome. I'm excited to get to try it out.
On a side note, does this pretty much infer that the eye will be mandatory for the system? What's the point in having the light bar if the eye isn't there? Not trying to start a flame war, just trying to figure out where they're taking this.
On a side note, does this pretty much infer that the eye will be mandatory for the system? What's the point in having the light bar if the eye isn't there? Not trying to start a flame war, just trying to figure out where they're taking this.
I don't think so. I think they're going to push it as a "to get the full experience of the PS4" kind of accessory. The controller can still work without it, and it doesn't necessarily have to use the Eye just because it has some sort of features that utilize it.
ThoughtsOfSpeaking
Banned
good point lol
James Sawyer Ford
Gold Member
Anyone else extremely hyped to get a new console?
PS3 is such...old tech, and it's cumbersome on so many fronts.
The upgrade for the PS4 will be massive, not just graphically, but the entire user experience.
PS3 is such...old tech, and it's cumbersome on so many fronts.
The upgrade for the PS4 will be massive, not just graphically, but the entire user experience.
I'm because new consoles are about a year over due. Wii U don't count.
I pretty much like everything about the controller. The touch pad could be used in some wonderful ways, even outside of games. And the speaker could be implemented in some creative ways. Take survival horror for example, say something is getting closer and eventually it's so close you can hear spooky sounds on the speaker. Shit would scare me lol.
Gemüsepizza
Member
I hope DICE finds an intuitive way to implement the spot function from BF4 with this controller, because the "Select" button is gone now. I guess pushing the touchpad could be a little bit harder to do because of it's size.
Tripolygon
Banned
Could this be the thing Sony does not want people to find out about the Dualshock 4
Could this be the method Sony is using to reduce dead zone from dualshock 4?
Patent was filed in October 2011
Could this be the method Sony is using to reduce dead zone from dualshock 4?
Patent was filed in October 2011
ProfessorMoran
Member
I wanna touch it.
Uno Venova
Banned
Hey, didn't Sony already do this before?
That would be a sweet start screen.
I would say they should do bi-weekly videos like this, easy headlines on gaming sites, but I guess they won't go in depth on anything more til' E3.
Pestilence11
Member
I really hope so, that sounds awesome.
Dark_AnNiaLatOr
Member
One thing I noticed, is that on the Jimmy Fallon Killzone: SF demo, they were using R1 to shoot. I wonder why they have that as the default, if the triggers look so good. I realize many games allow you to switch between R2 and R1 for shooting, but not every game does it.
Edit: either that or devs should just make R2 default, since Guerrilla must have made the triggers awesome
Edit: either that or devs should just make R2 default, since Guerrilla must have made the triggers awesome
H_Prestige
Banned
Because buttons are still better.
Dark_AnNiaLatOr
Member
I admit I'm acting like my preference is the best, which is obviously not always true, sorry lol. But I sure as hell an glad that they improved triggers.
pharmboy044
Member
So FamousMortimer mentioned that his Sony contacts have mentioned that due to the increase in RAM, Sony will not be Bundling the PSEye with console to decrease the cost. I think this will be a huge mistake and the best applications for the light bar on the controller will most likely never be fully realized.
I do hope the Eye is included in all the SKUs.. without this all the said features may become "opt-in"... in other words, won't be included in most games...
Septimus Prime
Member
It's also already kind of standard for PS3 games to use R1 for shooting. Personally, I'd feel kind of weird using R2, and there's always a short adjustment period for me when switching to play on 360 or something. I'll likely accidentally toss out all my grenades or do something else stupid because I'll be hitting RB instead of RT.
In my experience, the ergonomics of the dualshock have meant the R and L1 buttons have felt more natural for shooting.
I don't expect this to change, and it doesn't need to. They didn't need to change the triggers because shooting games, they needed to change them because convex triggers are fucking stupid.
good for me i dont want a camera.
backbreaker65
Banned
The Speaker will be great for sports games especially for a game like MLB The Show when you're playing in the Road to the Show mode you can get your base coach instructions when you're on the base paths or even better when you're are in the field you can get your team mates chatter i.e. the play is at 1st or a call for the ball. The Touch Pad could be used for quick basic defensive shifts i.e. Click Touch Pad to select the out field swipe to the left to shift to the left, swipe to the right to shift to the right, swipe up deep swipe down shallow, swipe up and to the left deep shift left ect... No need to click the pad for infield swipe left shift left ect
In basketball the same thing here the coach calling out plays, calling for time outs or your team mates yelling out i'm open, or take the shot, the shot clock is low.
American Football and Soccer you get pretty much the same thing.
The small ambiance you will only feel when you're on the field or on the court.
All this audio will be from your team mates so you will know its your squad, and all the other ambient audio from other teams and crowd will come out of your Audio system.
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In basketball the same thing here the coach calling out plays, calling for time outs or your team mates yelling out i'm open, or take the shot, the shot clock is low.
American Football and Soccer you get pretty much the same thing.
The small ambiance you will only feel when you're on the field or on the court.
All this audio will be from your team mates so you will know its your squad, and all the other ambient audio from other teams and crowd will come out of your Audio system.
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I do. I like having my console maximize their potential of possible.
I've got PSEye and Move for PS3. Ditto Kinect for 360.
I'd rather that shit is built in. Means it will actually get supported. Really fucking hate that Motion Plus came so late and was ignored.
Gemüsepizza
Member
Which probably could also affect Microsoft when every Xbox 3 has Kinect included, less support for them.
phosphor112
Banned
I'd also like to point out, this would be able to fix "drifting" issues on worn down controllers because the sensors would all the controller to detect a new "center" based on the sensor itself and not the "mechanical" center.
Tripolygon
Banned
They also talk about sensors that know when you are touching the analog sticks, developers could do some mind blowing things with that.
Ninja Moomin
Banned
People tend to think Apple leads the way in branding (at least people who don't know much), but Sony has a heritage of amazing brands.
Bravia
Vaio
Walkman
Trinitron
Playstation
The list goes on - they had some amazing marques and seem to be able to effortlessly enforce a 'sony tone' across pretty much everything.
Dreams-Visions
Member
Nothing sells a product like someone with a French accent.
I really hope not. Of course I want a move included too so it gets better support.
Dreamgazer
Member
...ask someone on the street if they know what a Bravia, Trinitron or possibly Vaio is. The whole point of good branding is that even people who don't know much will have heard of the brand.
If you think Japanese hand size is particularly different, you're an idiot. The gap between US and Japan average is about 3/16" each in breadth and length; there's actually a bigger difference between US and UK length than Japan and US.
It's entirely a matter of many American users choking up on the damn thing, which is both a reason for and a habit encouraged by X as the comfy confirm button rather than O. Try holding it with the center of your thumbprint resting on the center of the stick, rather than your thumb knuckle.
Graphics Horse
Member
Facts won't help.
googleplex
Member
Do we know if there is a magno-metter in the Dual Shock 4?
If there is it would have the same amount of motion data at the PS Move. Then you should also be able to use pointer controls just using orientation data just like the Move.
If there is it would have the same amount of motion data at the PS Move. Then you should also be able to use pointer controls just using orientation data just like the Move.
Move supplies Z relative to camera via perceived size of the glowy ball, DS4 doesn't; Move's camera tracking is usable from 180 degrees plus while the DS4 range is narrower. It's better than a Sixaxis, but definitely a step below a Move.
First-gen Wiimote seems to be a fair comparison in terms of hardware.
Doubt that is correct. The size of the triangle shape of the DS4 light-bar should help both with z depth determination and angle determination (by measuring delta from corner to corner).
Tripolygon
Banned
PS4 Eyes Dual Camera
not too sure about that one.
the touch pad as a whole looks like an unecessary hassle if you're looking for pin-point accuracy. its a stark contrast to everything else about the controller; which is easy and intuitive.
it's bunk for pinpoint accuracy as you'll have to place your finger on the pad before you can even begin orientating where about you want the input to focus on. it really should have just been a touch screen.
everything else about this controller is fantastic though. love it.
googleplex
Member
Yes but The Z axix isn't necessary for pointer controls. I'm saying that the Dual Shock 4 "should" be able to do pointer/cursor with orientation data alone. That is if it has a magno-meter.
I really don't see how you could combine that with Swype.
& it also looks like it will make the Analog sticks touch sensors kinda like the Mouse Pointing Sticks on Thinkpad laptops if that's the cause PS4 should be top choice when it come to Console FPS games
Nope. Gotta make the profit somehow.