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#PS4NoDRM #XboxOneNoDRM || Now do you "Believe?"
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toddhunter
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Please remember region free when asking.
American's may not think it matters but it is crucial to most of the world and the competition will result in lower prices for you too.
American's may not think it matters but it is crucial to most of the world and the competition will result in lower prices for you too.
Lol great analogy. I suppose it matters to them just as much. Many are gamers I'm sure.
Orpheus Telos
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Oh, it's definitely going to happen, in fact I'm shocked it hasn't already. We should just try to delay it for as long as possible IMO.
Well, IGN are deep in cahoots with publishers. All the advertising revenue and that. Not surprising.
bastards.
famousmortimer
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Yeah, I would lower expectations a bit. They may say something small for us to latch onto, but make no mistake... Sony views this used game issue as a potential to really differentiate themselves from MS. The actual announcement of used games, either for or against, is likely to happen at e3.
Microsoft has changed their answer so many times and been so vague that if sony showed their hand now and it really was a huge bump for them MS could easily just come out and do the same thing. So Im guessing Sony is waiting for MS to commit and then will announce. Before then I wouldn't expect much.
In the end I actually expect both to have used game policies like last gen. The noise created by disgruntled customers in the last week is too much for them to ignore. This is much bigger than people being bothered by XBLG prices or Sony removing backwards compatibility. This is a rights issue and I think people are really bothered by it. I know I am. I have no interest at all in buying a xbone but I still want to see it gone from there because I don't think its healthy for our industry. Publishers and console makers already have us in their networks, on their social media sites, on their email lists, preordering their games for a shiny outfit... and really just treating us as shitty as they can get away with. But moving into consumer rights has really set off a tidal wave. Im glad to see it turn towards sony in a respectful way letting them know that we aren't cool with it.
Microsoft has changed their answer so many times and been so vague that if sony showed their hand now and it really was a huge bump for them MS could easily just come out and do the same thing. So Im guessing Sony is waiting for MS to commit and then will announce. Before then I wouldn't expect much.
In the end I actually expect both to have used game policies like last gen. The noise created by disgruntled customers in the last week is too much for them to ignore. This is much bigger than people being bothered by XBLG prices or Sony removing backwards compatibility. This is a rights issue and I think people are really bothered by it. I know I am. I have no interest at all in buying a xbone but I still want to see it gone from there because I don't think its healthy for our industry. Publishers and console makers already have us in their networks, on their social media sites, on their email lists, preordering their games for a shiny outfit... and really just treating us as shitty as they can get away with. But moving into consumer rights has really set off a tidal wave. Im glad to see it turn towards sony in a respectful way letting them know that we aren't cool with it.
It's great to hear that this could potentially sway some decision makers. If Sony does decide not to include the crappier DRM mechanics then it's just another decided schematic advantage. They've been making the right moves all along so I hope they don't give up in this last (most important) stretch.
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Deleted member 80556
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One fight at a time, grasshopper!
RustyNails
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lol same
BlazingDarkness
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Region free is probably already a thing. PS3 was, PS Vita was, I see no reason to change.
Sure it's publisher's own decision, and we all know how that worked out for Atlus. lol.
ShroudOfFate
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Man, if Sony really ends up having no anti-used game policy or drm and they announce it at the press conference, their E3 is going to be bananas.
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Deleted member 80556
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Indeed, that was quite a PR nightmare for them.
Oh, time traveler, tell us how will this end, once and for all!
toddhunter
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You would hope so, but they intentionally avoided answering the question and..... well you would think a lot of basic things were a given, yet here we are.
Doesn't hurt to let them know.
You know the industry is screwed up when they have to make an announcement giving you the rights to the property you bought in the first place.
http://kotaku.com/rumor-the-ps4-has-used-games-drm-509969406
Kotaku got up a story, but I don't think Plunkett's visited GAF today, as it only cover's Keighley's Bonus Round mention.
I've also posted a story on my site. Hopefully it'll attract some more attention.
Edit: VG247, too: http://www.vg247.com/2013/05/27/sony-reconsidering-used-games-drm-following-xbox-one-reveal-rumour/
Kotaku got up a story, but I don't think Plunkett's visited GAF today, as it only cover's Keighley's Bonus Round mention.
I've also posted a story on my site. Hopefully it'll attract some more attention.
Edit: VG247, too: http://www.vg247.com/2013/05/27/sony-reconsidering-used-games-drm-following-xbox-one-reveal-rumour/
You mean the used game that wasn't even cheaper than a new game a month later? Okay then, fight the good fight I guess.
ShroudOfFate
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We got to get into those comment sections and tell them to do this as well.
WooHooAlex
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Ya, pretty much, it will still be a great moment if they get up on stage and announce that tho. Especially if they can take a few jabs at Microsoft in the process.
yurinka
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Another Tweet examples :
@yosp Please avoid anti-2nd hand policies, always online DRM, paid online multiplayer and region lock for #PS4,#Sony!#PS4NoDRM #PS4USEDGAMES
@yosp Please skip @Microsoft's anti-2nd hand policies,online DRM,paid online multiplayer and region lock in #PS4! Don't be like #XboxOne!
The idea is to get more exposure with your tweets by mentioning both related people (see the OP to get some examples), the hastags of this topic (#PS4NoDRM #PS4USEDGAMES PS4RegionFree), related popular hastags (#PS4 #Playstation #Sony #Xbox #XboxOne) and corporation accounts (@Playstation @Sony @Microsoft @Xbox). Also please try to don't repeat always exactly the same tweets if possible.
@yosp Please avoid anti-2nd hand policies, always online DRM, paid online multiplayer and region lock for #PS4,#Sony!#PS4NoDRM #PS4USEDGAMES
@yosp Please skip @Microsoft's anti-2nd hand policies,online DRM,paid online multiplayer and region lock in #PS4! Don't be like #XboxOne!
The idea is to get more exposure with your tweets by mentioning both related people (see the OP to get some examples), the hastags of this topic (#PS4NoDRM #PS4USEDGAMES PS4RegionFree), related popular hastags (#PS4 #Playstation #Sony #Xbox #XboxOne) and corporation accounts (@Playstation @Sony @Microsoft @Xbox). Also please try to don't repeat always exactly the same tweets if possible.
Well expressed. And thank you for leading the charge, famousmortimer. I've bombarded Yoshida-san with tweets!
Gamereactor Sweden blog post asking to use the hashtags:
http://www.gamereactor.se/blog/j_o_g/555011/
http://www.gamereactor.se/blog/j_o_g/555011/
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Deleted member 80556
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I'd blame retailers for that rather than the console manufacturers. That is one way of viewing it, how I see it is that I like to lend games to some of my friends and I get games from them, and I don't want to have to pay for that or get a nasty surprise of having to activate or something.
WooHooAlex
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I wonder if double tweeting it is a good idea?
Triple? ... or would that be going overboard?
Triple? ... or would that be going overboard?
The code in the disc isn't your property, even if they do end up allowing you to sell the disc with no DRM.
gigantor21
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I think it would be best if people just posted it how they want. We don't want them thinking that we're bots.
Blood Diamonds
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Is the site well known around there?
No idea. I just googled the hashtag and saw it.
Biggest Scandinavian gaming website. The home of Battlefield, Dreamfall, Wolfenstein, Minecraft and Angry Birds.
I think it would be best if people just posted it how they want. We don't want them thinking that we're bots.
Hash tags are important. Otherwise there is no way to gauge how many tweets are on the same subject overall. #PS4NoDRM
BlazingDarkness
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I think it would be best if people just posted it how they want. We don't want them thinking that we're bots.
Well the idea is that the tweet uses tags to other popular names (in those instances, Microsoft, Sony, Xbox One) so that the no-DRM and used games tags get more reach.
Blood Diamonds
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Giant Panda
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Let's try to get Reddit involved, try up voting this: http://www.reddit.com/r/gaming/comments/1f42of/dont_want_drm_on_your_potential_ps4_ps4nodrm/
OfWhiteSkinOnRedLeather
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Don't forget #PS4RegionFree.
What?
Ever heard of private trading? EBay? Gumtree?
One example: nintendoland is £15 preowned in CEX, whilst it's still £49.99 brand new in GAME. Same can be said for the majority of new releases on all consoles very soon after their release dates.
Orpheus Telos
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Except that I don't need to own the code to have the right to control what I do with my license to the software.
This x 100.
ShroudOfFate
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This is starting to remind me of the Adam Orth thing! I hope this just snowballs like crazy.
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