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PS4: The Dark Sorcerer - Quantic Dream's full tech demo released
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Katana_Strikes
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That first screen looks real... like it's from a movie.
The trailer was cool and funny.
The only thing I hated was that little goblin. His face is stupid.
The trailer was cool and funny.
The only thing I hated was that little goblin. His face is stupid.
DeejayKnight
Member
And to think. The goblin was Cole from "Martin" fame.
Lord Error
Insane For Sony
BlimBlim, if you're reading this - can you ask your crew to make a video of a live stage presentation of this demo, where the developer moves the camera around, shows wireframe and effects, etc. I'm really curious to see how it looks like.
Well the demo being scripted and being in a small room, so yeah that can be made. But in a much much larger scale? Doubt it, but it looks really good though
Little Old Man
Member
Evolution of Quantic Dream's technology since 2006:
2006 ("The Casting" Tech Demo on PS3)
Lord Error
Insane For Sony
The good thing about having tons of memory is that larger scale doesn't pose as much of a problem, as long as you don't have to render that 'large scale' all at the same time. Their games are are in good part structured around situations/locations similar to what's presented in this demo.
LightofRohan
Member
Holy shit. This is incredible, thanks for posting!
I remember people were blown away by the 2006 demo... even debated it being prerendered. We've come SO far.
unknownstranger
Member
Went in with low expectations, came out pleasantly amused.
Is there anyone(man) that doesn't look better with a beard/mustache?
... impressive to say the least.
ComputerMKII
Banned
I just saw the 12-minute video.
Holy shit, I'm completely blown away. If that's what they can pull off at the beginning of next-gen then it's a miracle.
Holy shit, I'm completely blown away. If that's what they can pull off at the beginning of next-gen then it's a miracle.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BqeuHGESZBA
a video game interpretation of Who Framed Roger Rabbit would be cool too.
Nah...
What Perkel meant was that he wants to download a high-quality non-stream version of the demo. The YouTube version is low quality.
Wildstar75
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So I ended Day2 watching the extended Demo of this in Sonys booth. The buzz was non existant, the line was small, and I was curious. Before getting things going the Quantic Dream dev went on and on how there are no tricks, this is running in engine in 3D realtime with no video overlays. I was still quite skeptical. They showed everything from the press conference and then the demo went on for another five minutes. Another actor shows up in a devil costume, many more goblins appear. I kept thinking to myself this just can be. The character in the devil outfit looks absolutely real. I admit I was #TeamCG so I have been burned before. And this is supposedly real time no less. When it was over. He started to describe how many polys there were per character. And how many shaders. Blah blah. But then he started to change the lighting with the controller. To move the camera around in full 3D. Zoom in and out to see amazing details like the characters eyes. He started turning shaders on and off. Then he went into wireframe mode to show off the models. He had them do different animations like pushups to show off the cloth simulations for the clothes and hair. Because we were the last show of the day he had plenty of time to go through it in detail.
I could not compute. It was real. This is the single most impressive realtime 3D graphics demo I have ever seen in my life. I have been to many E3's and even SIGGRAPH. Never has my jaw hit the floor so hard. I put my face right up to the huge hidef tv screen to look more closely at the end. Still looked real. There can be no debate here people. #TEAMCG is happening and in real time on PS4. And it is not Kojima that is delivering. It is Quantic dream. This really deserves alot more attention than it is getting. Especially after what happened with the TeamCG vs TeamReal debate. If you are at E3, you must goto the Sony booth and wait in line for the Quantic Dream demo to see it for yourself. I asked them to release the demo on PSN store when PS4 comes out. The last argument is that this is just a demo, and what can the game look like. They were very confident that the game will look like this or better. The Quantic Dream guy listed how they made this in 6 months using tools from the Beyond pipeline. And that it was not even using the full memory of PS4. He also pointed to their pedigree, and I have to admit, Beyond looks better than many next gen games at E3.
#TEAMCG has been vindicated! Discuss.
I could not compute. It was real. This is the single most impressive realtime 3D graphics demo I have ever seen in my life. I have been to many E3's and even SIGGRAPH. Never has my jaw hit the floor so hard. I put my face right up to the huge hidef tv screen to look more closely at the end. Still looked real. There can be no debate here people. #TEAMCG is happening and in real time on PS4. And it is not Kojima that is delivering. It is Quantic dream. This really deserves alot more attention than it is getting. Especially after what happened with the TeamCG vs TeamReal debate. If you are at E3, you must goto the Sony booth and wait in line for the Quantic Dream demo to see it for yourself. I asked them to release the demo on PSN store when PS4 comes out. The last argument is that this is just a demo, and what can the game look like. They were very confident that the game will look like this or better. The Quantic Dream guy listed how they made this in 6 months using tools from the Beyond pipeline. And that it was not even using the full memory of PS4. He also pointed to their pedigree, and I have to admit, Beyond looks better than many next gen games at E3.
#TEAMCG has been vindicated! Discuss.
Wildstar75
Member
I tried, they wouldn't let me. Ditto for the Infamous room. I was able to record Killzone Shadow Fall demo in their room.
DangerMouse
Member
This was gorgeous and a lot of fun to watch both the part they showed Monday and this extended version with more stuff.
subtleglitch
Neo Member
I really enjoyed the tech demo. I thought it was neat 
I am a little confused about how that would be implemented into a game, but I presume because it was a tech demo, nothing would be a final product anyway.
I am a little confused about how that would be implemented into a game, but I presume because it was a tech demo, nothing would be a final product anyway.
Wildstar75
Member
I really enjoyed the tech demo. I thought it was neat
I am a little confused about how that would be implemented into a game, but I presume because it was a tech demo, nothing would be a final product anyway.
They were quite clear this is a tech demo and nothing more. They will use the tech they built for this demo on their first PS4 game. That is all.
How "much much" larger does it need to be to potentially work as a game concept and still achieve this kind of photorealism? There's tons of potential just in the scenario shown.
RebornYeti
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If the game doesn't end up as an interactive cutscene, I'm all in.
SolarPowered
Member
The best I've seen from a modeling perspective. Just a bit more and QD will hop right over the uncanny valley.
Lord Error
Insane For Sony
Wildstar75, can you go back and make a video of what the developer demonstration is like (when they move cameras and change the lighting etc.). Did yo actually see that it was running on devkit?
*edit* OK, sorry, I see you answered that Hidden cam perhaps... phone peeking out of your shirt pocket...
*edit* OK, sorry, I see you answered that
Hidden cam perhaps... phone peeking out of your shirt pocket...It's true. You watch it, and you basically forget that it's computer graphics, or you don't care or whatever. You see some guys having fun acting and talking to each other and that's all you care about. That's the thing that impressed me the most actually.
Afterall their games were never about large scale open worlds, so i dont see why those exact graphics would not be possible for their game
GreggTheGrimReaper
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Couldn't next gen fighting games potientially look this good?
Yes, plain and simple, yes
Actually it computes
It is exactly what i expected from hardware 8 years after xbox 360 and graphics like Gears 3
The problem is that PC comes up constatly with new GPUs that cost 800-1000$ and this is why people thought consoles would not deliver anything special
But they never took as a factor the optimization, custom hardware and actual use of hardware factors, that is why seems so surprising to most
When I saw this live I had to walk away when the scene turned into a joke. Too much cringe for me. Quite possibly the most yah-ish thing I've ever witnessed too.
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Tech demos hardly do anything for me, honestly. I can appreciate the effort from a talent/technology/know-how perspective, but to be super impressed by this is silly, imo. I couldn't care less about what the system is capable of down the line. Show me what you can do with this hardware NOW and make an actual game with concept/mechanics, etc. you know?
Ignore that last comment because it's a MEGA inside joke/thing
Tech demos hardly do anything for me, honestly. I can appreciate the effort from a talent/technology/know-how perspective, but to be super impressed by this is silly, imo. I couldn't care less about what the system is capable of down the line. Show me what you can do with this hardware NOW and make an actual game with concept/mechanics, etc. you know?
therealminime
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They're aliens from the future.
Wish I could see this latest tech demo without youtube's goddamn awful compression.
Ploid 3.0
Member
Thank you kindly. I haven't seen this.
Ploid 3.0
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You'll have to wait for their first PS4 game to be previewed. It will look better, like all of their real games end up on PS3. The tech demo is them testing their main game stuff in beta pretty much.
TheChillyAcademic
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I thought it was amazing and even more so because I think, unlike The Casting, Heavy Rain, and Beyond, it wasn't "dramatic". It was funny, it was silly and the comedic timing was great. I would love to play a game like this with a clear sense of humor as opposed to a drama leaden, melodramatic plodding mess of a narrative.
Ploid 3.0
Member
It could possibly be their next direction. The casting was thrilling, had a potential murderer, and a dark sad background (rain at night). Kara was sad, showed the birth and growth of a talented android/creature, and you hoped she survive wherever it is that she will end up next. Maybe Cage is wanting to do something more light hearted next, with this he could be testing if comedy works, if he's ok at it, and how it could probably look on the new hardware.
Punkster_NY
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dragonbane
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For me the difference is this is Quantic Dream. Their games always looked better than their respective tech demos. Simply put this is the real deal.
Melchiah
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Isn't that exactly what they're doing?
Chuck Norris
Banned
I wish it was, it was so fun. David Cage needs to have this sort of fun with his next game, take a break from the seriousness.
Pristine_Condition
Member
It was pretty awesome when GG released the "bullet" advertisement for Killzone in the form of a tech demo that you could mess around with.
This would be a cool little pack-in with the PS4.
Ingueferroque
Banned
This is really impressive stuff. Was this demo shown to press where they could manipulate the camera?
Ploid 3.0
Member
The Kara demo would be way too popular. They will need some blurring or censor stuff for that one.
dragonbane
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It was shown at Quantic's E3 booth for the public. A developer messed around with it. Impressions here: