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GTA V 360: 2 discs, install from Disc 1 play from Disc 2. PS3: 1 disc, 8GB install

Yerolo

Member
Cool for 360 owners. Two things:

-didn't Lords of Shadow try this and MS said no?

-Hope the initial disc 1 install saves the data to the HDD and we don't have two GTAV boxes in the games' list!

Not sure what you mean by this... what do mean by two GTAV boxes and where else would the data be saved to ?
 
Everytime I read about GTA V I get a little sad.

Mostly thinking about the fact that we should be playing it were it not for the delay.

Then I think about how much I just want a Next Gen version.

This game is going to be so good though.
 

Sethos

Banned
Dude, I've read this whole thread and in my opinion you wouldn't know jack shit if it wasn't for some outside party pointing out the differences. The ps3 version of rdr was not exact to the 360, who gives a flying fuck!!!!!! Try telling me some other differences that may have popped up that didn't get posted in that DF article, can you? I have both versions because I thought one would be better, and the ps3 may not be as sharp, but it is not as harsh either. Can you afford to put the two side by side and say to the best of your ability that the 360 version is head and shoulders above the ps3? Or do you just jump on message boards trying to show off your internet dick by quoting other peoples articles......

Looking forward to this game as well DO NOT CARE WHAT PLATFORM!!!!

Settle down there tiger, you seem upset. I have both the PS3 and 360 version, there's a clear difference and it's the reason why I decided to play the 360 version. I have eyes you know. Also, plenty of people 'give a flying fuck'. This is an enthusiast forum, it's how they work - It's allowed to talk about that stuff. Perhaps not the best place to be when it, clearly, bothers you a lot.
 

FyreWulff

Member
When you install 2-disc games on Xbox 360 in your "games library" you get two "boxes" for the game. It is really annoying.

Here's a fun one:

If you own both Halo Reach GonD and Halo Anniversary, when you try to launch your GonD Reach it'll try to launch the Reach multiplayer demo on the anniversary disc instead..
 

muzzymate

Member
When you install 2-disc games on Xbox 360 in your "games library" you get two "boxes" for the game. It is really annoying.

That's what makes installing Lost Odyssey the worst - 4 "boxes" of Lost Odyssey in the games list. But that games loading times makes installing pretty much required.
 

sunnz

Member
Everytime I read about GTA V I get a little sad.

Mostly thinking about the fact that we should be playing it were it not for the delay.

Then I think about how much I just want a Next Gen version.

This game is going to be so good though.

If it wasn't for the delay, here is what we may not have gotten:

Even more customisation of cars/ weapons, changing hair styles, BUY properties ( said you couldn't first) and most importantly, a lot more complete and better running game ( and few other things I have forgotten)

Now some of those things may have already been in, but with the delay they would have absolutely used the extra time to polish the game and those features more, adding more options etc...


The delay is annoying, no doubt, but DEFIANTLY worth it because the game we will get in September would be a hell of a lot more complete and better than what we could have got in April.
 
I always thought they brought in staff from other studios as well? I'm sure they brought in a few R* North dudes to help out/advise on some parts of RDR.

Pretty much. When a Rockstar project is reaching its end, the company pulls sort of an "all hands on deck" approach and have multiple studies come in and help finish the game and get it out the door. North came to the rescue on L.A. Noire and also helped out with RDR and Max Payne 3. Pretty much every Rockstar studio helps out in some way or another to help finish another studio's game.
 

omonimo

Banned
Settle down there tiger, you seem upset. I have both the PS3 and 360 version, there's a clear difference and it's the reason why I decided to play the 360 version. I have eyes you know. Also, plenty of people 'give a flying fuck'. This is an enthusiast forum, it's how they work - It's allowed to talk about that stuff. Perhaps not the best place to be when it, clearly, bothers you a lot.

Probably it's upset because most of your posts are just about how superior is the 360 or to stay away from ps3 version where the same DF article said: "Technically speaking, Xbox 360 really should be winning this contest hands-down, but bizarrely, it doesn't. [...]As it is then, it comes down to personal preference, and in my view, Xbox 360 just 'edges' it. [...] PS3 GTA IV looks absolutely fantastic, and even factoring in zero anti-aliasing support and a lower resolution, in many scenarios it looks as good as the 360 version, if not better." or I'm wrong? Why you try to convince so desperately everyone how more valid is your personal taste? I could to understand to screw ps3 version over the pc version, but for the 360 noising texture version? Are you serious? ps3 it's absolutely acceptable, just the sharpness is quite disturbing in some case, but the colours palette or the texture filters is tons better of the 360 version, there is nothing wrong to appreciate it.
 

omonimo

Banned
Why would you quote a passage from one of the comparison sections? There's several sections that come to an overall conclusion and the overall conclusion is pretty clear but you apparently like to selective pick whatever might fit your bullshit argument. Remember that thread regarding PC graphics where you found a 400x280 Far Cry 1 picture that was badly compressed, didn't run highest settings and was a bad shot to boot to prove a point, then everybody called you out on that shit and you kept treading water?

Your posts are a pain in the ass to read because you love to argue however you don't fully grasp the language, it's annoying.

Oh and let's get the DF conclusion posted again, you know the one that encompasses all their findings from their entire article;



It's amazing how hurt some people get over facts, it's right there black on white; one version is superior. That is extremely difficult for people to swallow apparently. No, no one claimed the PS3 version to be unplayable or completely horrible but one version is just better when it comes to IQ, Framerate etc. which is pretty significant for a game that is already struggling in both of these departments. If the prospect of one version being a bit better annoys you / scares you, don't rush to a gaming forum and join a discussion regarding then to just shrug it off with "Personal opinion".

Ok man, continues to think your opinions are facts over the others fanboystic comments, if you feel better. Pratically you completely ignored the others passages of the article about of the 'inferior' ps3 version, but it's me who don't full grasp the language. The only reason because I have quote those parts, it's to prove even in the face off, ps3 version is not biased over the 'superior' 360; I don't want to repeat myself but the phrase "in many scenarios it looks as good as the 360 version, if not better." what is it supposed to mean in the final verdict? For you, I mean. Christ, you really think I'm a true idiot. My english could be terrible, but you seem incredibly obtuse now.
I have read just now the the first part of the post. Wow, if it's disturbing O_O . I though childhood was passed from awhile.
 

Sethos

Banned
I wonder if there is any chance of a next gen version?

Well, put it like this; Rockstar assembled a team to port GTA IV to PC. It was a mediocre effort, they hadn't done it before but it was pure training. Max Payne 3 port was much better and a much more valiant effort. So they now have quite a team to port to x86 which would also mean opening up for 3 venues of sale; PC, Xbox One and PS4.

I'd say everything speaks for a next-gen port.
 

AzerPhire

Member
Ok man, continues to think your opinions are facts over the others fanboystic comments, if you feel better. Pratically you completely ignored the others passages of the article about of the 'inferior' ps3 version, but it's me who don't full grasp the language. The only reason because I have quote those parts, it's to prove even in the face off, ps3 version is not biased over the 'superior' 360; I don't want to repeat myself but the phrase "in many scenarios it looks as good as the 360 version, if not better." what is it supposed to mean in the final verdict? For you, I mean. Christ, you really think I'm a true idiot. My english could be terrible, but you seem incredibly obtuse now.
I have read just now the the first part of the post. Wow, if it's disturbing O_OI though childhood was passed from awhile.

He's not pulling stuff out of his ass. It is true, one version is better than the other, whether you care about those differences or not is besides the point.

I bet though when a multi-platform game comes out for PS4 and XB1 you (And many others who can't accept a PS3 version being 'worse') will be the first to point out the extra blades of grass or slightly bumpier rock texture that a PS4 version has. Things that 99% of people won't notice but are differences regardless.
 

omonimo

Banned
He's not pulling stuff out of his ass. It is true, one version is better than the other, whether you care about those differences or not is besides the point.

I bet though when a multi-platform game comes out for PS4 and XB1 you (And many others who can't accept a PS3 version being 'worse') will be the first to point out the extra blades of grass or slightly bumpier rock texture that a PS4 version has. Things that 99% of people won't notice but are differences regardless.

Just to be clear, I'm not trying to say 360 version is not superior in some aspects in any case, but I beg to differ to everyone who call it 'superior' version over the ps3 version when the same DF article seems quite oriented to define both a subjective preference.
Looking to its posts, he has completely put in the shame the ps3 version or everyone has tried to appreciate it, when even 360 version it's not all that goodness. To be pedant, 360 version suffer of a terrible noise artifacts in the texture. A superior version, like the pc, has not just 2-3 fps more in the chaotic scene or 30% of more pixels over the dithering artifact on the shadows or the texture; it's still a notable compromise. I can concur about the sharpness, 360 is surely better, but superior? Not at all.
 

Jaxson

Banned
I've got the 360 version pre-ordered, but will gladly cancel it if they announce a next gen version, which is most definitely the reason why they won't announce it until the current gen version has been released.
 

moolhy

Banned
Please stop this hurt attitude, backtrack the thread and read your posts. Every time someone pointed out the actual difference between the game you replied with "OH DAT EXTRA GRASS", being obtuse and making it sound like that was the only difference. If you were that mild lamb you'd like to paint yourself as, you would just have said "I've only seen X difference", "Personally I only noticed" or something along those lines. Just quoting people point to the DF or the differences and saying "Dat extra grass" and "lol grass" means you were just trying to instigate shit.

Holy shit, this post...

It's that time of the month.
 

moolhy

Banned
He's exactly right though. So....?

There is absolutely no reason to get that worked up over summarizing some pixels and a few lost frames as "some blades of grass". They are both just as trivial. I've seen both versions of Max Payne 3 and RDR, and to someone just playing the game without the DF article open in their laptop, it's the same on both platforms. GTA4 is dogshit on both platforms, worse on PS3.

End of story.
 

SapientWolf

Trucker Sexologist
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Well that is my explanation for the incredible jump in quality in the last trailer (in cutscenes).
The lighting especially isn't something i expect an open world ps360 game would be able to pull off.

If they didn't hats off.
I want the version that looks like this.
 
There is absolutely no reason to get that worked up over summarizing some pixels and a few lost frames as "some blades of grass". They are both just as trivial. I've seen both versions of Max Payne 3 and RDR, and to someone just playing the game without the DF article open in their laptop, it's the same on both platforms. GTA4 is dogshit on both platforms, worse on PS3.

End of story.

So why are a select few getting worked up over the differences between the two? He pointed exactly what was wrong and some people started getting super defensive. I saw a difference between the two, and that was before I even started frequenting DF. It's a fine game regardless, it just plays better on the 360 platform. End of Story.
 

MercuryLS

Banned
I've got the 360 version pre-ordered, but will gladly cancel it if they announce a next gen version, which is most definitely the reason why they won't announce it until the current gen version has been released.

Yeah, doesn't make a luck of sense to announce the next gen version any time soon. This is one of the few games if double dip for.
 

Fjordson

Member
Yeah, doesn't make a luck of sense to announce the next gen version any time soon. This is one of the few games if double dip for.
Pretty much.

I just pre-ordered one of the $80 editions two days ago at Gamestop, and the guy helping me said they've got more GTA V pre-orders than Call of Duty: Ghosts pre-orders. Said it's like that at all the local stores he's inquired about (this store was in downtown San Francisco so certainly not in the middle of nowhere) and that it'll easily be one of the biggest games outside of CoD to come around in years.

Even if it doesn't outsell CoD, it's going to do fine at first. No reason to rush out a next-gen port.
 

Joco

Member
Will be picking this up on the 360. Will never have to use the second disc again after it's installed.
 

omonimo

Banned
So why are a select few getting worked up over the differences between the two? He pointed exactly what was wrong and some people started getting super defensive. I saw a difference between the two, and that was before I even started frequenting DF. It's a fine game regardless, it just plays better on the 360 platform. End of Story.

He has repeatedly snub everyone has tried to say something of good about the ps3 version, most of his posts are about to stay away from ps3 version (when GTA V demo run on ps3) . He argues how much terrible is GTA IV on ps3 compared to 360 (sorry but lol). when the same DF article claimed ps3 version how comparable if not better in some situations. After this, he has concluded that DF article not said this, it's just a my misinterpretation for my bad english vocabulary. It's not matter to be super defensive, he hasn't simply pointed out the 'truth' here. Talking in general, I don't know why someone can't feel free to have different opinions without to read how much incompetent is for this because exist only a way to see the things. We are in a forum, not in a science academy.
 

Sethos

Banned
The same DF article said ps3 is comparable if not better, but he has claimed DF article not said this, but it's just a my misinterpretation for my bad english vocabulary.

Yes, you certainly grasp the language perfectly and what I've said has been completely untrue.

My apologies.


And Finally...
After almost two thousands words of technical discussion, the bottom line is that it's clear that Rockstar had some issues matching the basic performance of the Xbox 360 game on the PS3 hardware. Lower resolution, zero anti-aliasing support and a more variable frame-rate are the bottom line.

On the one hand, it's a touch disappointing that Rockstar's USD 100 million budget couldn't extend to optimising the experience to match Xbox 360, especially when you look at a game like Burnout Paradise that doesn't require a mandatory installation, has a basically rock solid frame-rate, and is technically identical cross-platform.
 

omonimo

Banned
Yes, you certainly grasp the language perfectly and what I've said has been completely untrue.

My apologies.

That's all, the article said only this? Ok man, you are right. You put me in the shame, did you feel better now? I hope so.
 
He has repeatedly snub everyone has tried to say something of good about the ps3 version, most of his posts are about to stay away from ps3 version (when GTA V demo run on ps3) . He argues how much terrible is GTA IV on ps3 compared to 360 (sorry but lol). when the same DF article claimed ps3 version how comparable if not better in some situations. After this, he has concluded that DF article not said this, it's just a my misinterpretation for my bad english vocabulary. It's not matter to be super defensive, he hasn't simply pointed out the 'truth' here. Talking in general, I don't know why someone can't feel free to have different opinions without to read how much incompetent is for this because exist only a way to see the things. We are in a forum, not in a science academy.

But it's an enthusiast forum for people from many different parts of the world with different opinions. He stated things with verifiable proof, not some compassionate fanboyism force. It's nothing new in knowing that 9/10 R* games run better on the 360. It's people who try to argue contrarily with no proof that look like fools. The differences may not be huge, but for someone like me, where I have a good PC, 360, PS3 and a Wii U; I want the best version possible. Most times, when a PC version isn't available, it's the 360 one I get.
 

Sethos

Banned
That's all, the article said only this? Ok man, you are right. You have put me in the shame, did you feel better now? I hope so.

It was their conclusion.

con·clu·sion [kuhn-kloo-zhuhn]
noun
1. the end or close; final part.
2. the last main division of a discourse, usually containing a summing up of the points and a statement of opinion or decisions reached.
3. a result, issue, or outcome; settlement or arrangement: The restitution payment was one of the conclusions of the negotiations.
4. final decision: The judge has reached his conclusion.
5. a reasoned deduction or inference.

We are back to the kindergarten stage of having to explain words, meanings and how articles work.
 

omonimo

Banned
But it's an enthusiast forum for people from many different parts of the world with different opinions. He stated things with verifiable proof, not some compassionate fanboyism force. It's nothing new in knowing that 9/10 R* games run better on the 360. It's people who try to argue contrarily with no proof that look like fools. The differences may not be huge, but for someone like me, where I have a good PC, 360, PS3 and a Wii U; I want the best version possible. Most times, when a PC version isn't available, it's the 360 one I get.
Where exaclty I have said he has stated false things? I don't remember. I just remember how much has tried to convince how inferior is the ps3 version, or how better will be on 360 GTA V, where we don't know yet. In any case I haven't said ps3 it's superior in any post. I though it was pretty clear what I'm trying to argue. If for someone ps3 is fine or even better because appreciate the better texture filter or the richer palette of colours, why he has to feel more incompentent for this?
 
I expect both versions to look the same.

Seriously? They give you that spin on GTA IV, RDR and MP3 too.

Unless they have seriously optimised PS3 performance the 360 version is a no brainer if you own both consoles.

EDIT:

Just read up, can't we all just get along? :p
 

omonimo

Banned
It was their conclusion.

con·clu·sion [kuhn-kloo-zhuhn]
noun
1. the end or close; final part.
2. the last main division of a discourse, usually containing a summing up of the points and a statement of opinion or decisions reached.
3. a result, issue, or outcome; settlement or arrangement: The restitution payment was one of the conclusions of the negotiations.
4. final decision: The judge has reached his conclusion.
5. a reasoned deduction or inference.

We are back to the kindergarten stage of having to explain words, meanings and how articles work.
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omonimo

Banned
Seriously? They give you that spin on GTA IV, RDR and MP3 too.

Unless they have seriously optimised PS3 performance the 360 version is a no brainer if you own both consoles.

EDIT:

Just read up, can't we all just get along? :p

What exactly has so terrible MP3 on ps3? I could understand RDR, but GTA IV/MP3 not looks that different.
 

Sethos

Banned
Ok, it seems pretty clear it's impossible discuss to you. Fine. For me that's all.

*Gets corrected*

"Ok, it seems pretty clear it's impossible discuss to you. Fine. For me that's all."

Haha holy shit, it's like talking to a 12 year old.
 
What exactly has so terrible MP3 on ps3? I could understand RDR, but GTA IV/MP3 not looks that different.

Where did I use the word 'terrible'? Whether the differences are immense or mildly discernable, history favours the 360 version.

It's a moot point if they release it on PS4 though, because that would be my preferred option.
 
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