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[XFistsClenchedX]

I think this whole fear of the government spying on you is paranoia. If the government wants to watch me sit in front of the television in my underwear eating junk food, they're welcome to watch.

 

[Oersted]

K2 cant spy on you...as been said, but if government tried to use k2 to spy on you, we will wage war in court against it.

Against Agencies? You must be new to America.

I think this whole fear of the government spying on you is paranoia. If the government wants to watch me sit in front of the television in my underwear eating junk food, they're welcome to watch.

Are you seriously so incredible naive?

 

[BraXzy]

One is actually useful.
The other one is Kinect.

Both know where you live.

 

[alr1ght]

The hell is wrong with people? Smartphones, laptops, mics and headsets all have these very same functions and your all worried about 'spying' now, 10 years later? Hypocrisy. Those crying wolf aren't even buying the device (Sony fanboys) and voicing concern for something they don't even want in the first place? Hypocrisy. If MS uses the device in the manner suggested they'll get sued to kingdom come. They have huge departments just to prevent this kind of thing. It's all opt in data, nothing the consumer is committed to.

Have you been paying attention at all these past few weeks?

 

[Suikoguy]

Those departments take the week off when the Skype data was provided?

He is just another ardent Xbox supporter.

 

[medze]

I think this whole fear of the government spying on you is paranoia. If the government wants to watch me sit in front of the television in my underwear eating junk food, they're welcome to watch.

I feel sorry for people who are so willing to surrender their personal freedoms. It's not paranoia at all but its pretty clear you don't follow the news at all or you would know that.

 

[XFistsClenchedX]

I also think it's nonsense to be concerned about privacy on the Xbox One when you're on the internet where everything you do is stored somewhere and you're open to hacking and other things. It seems very hypocritical to me.

 

[bobbytkc]

I think this whole fear of the government spying on you is paranoia. If the government wants to watch me sit in front of the television in my underwear eating junk food, they're welcome to watch.

People used to think that the government listening to your Skype data is paranoia too.

 

[Madness]

so why didn't they do this when the government was seeking data from their other stuff?

Because people didn't know about it then lol. If I buy XbOne, the Kinect is getting electrical tape over the camera, aimed at the wall and then covered with Styrofoam so it can't record my voice.

 

[Freki]

The hell is wrong with people? Smartphones, laptops, mics and headsets all have these very same functions and your all worried about 'spying' now, 10 years later? Hypocrisy.

And how exactly would you know about my stance on privacy for the last 10 years? Calling people hypocrites without the shred of proof is a pretty bold move.

Those crying wolf aren't even buying the device (Sony fanboys) and voicing concern for something they don't even want in the first place? Hypocrisy.

I was dead set on getting both consoles day one at the end of last year. Certain policies and decisions made me change my decision.
Calling people hypocrites without the shred of proof is a pretty bold move - again.

If MS uses the device in the manner suggested they'll get sued to kingdom come. They have huge departments just to prevent this kind of thing. It's all opt in data, nothing the consumer is committed to.

Did Microsoft get sued for giving access to Skype?
Did Microsoft get sued for giving access to outlook.com?
Did Microsoft get sued for giving access to Skydrive?
No they weren't. Why? Because they were doing the governments bidding in accordance to the law.

Thinking it would be different with the Xbox One is delusional at best.

 

[MercuryLS]

If they have a contest to win something it shouldn't be that bad.

They're advertising Bengay on a games console. Think about that for a second.

Edit: Kinect 2 version = Say "I love Bengay" to receive 20% your next tube!

 

[pixlexic]

I feel sorry for people who are so willing to surrender their personal freedoms. It's not paranoia at all but its pretty clear you don't follow the news at all or you would know that.

the news whole purpose to create sensational head lines to fuel viewer ship to gain ad revenue? that news?

 

[Kyon]

The hell is wrong with people? Smartphones, laptops, mics and headsets all have these very same functions and your all worried about 'spying' now, 10 years later? Hypocrisy. Those crying wolf aren't even buying the device (Sony fanboys) and voicing concern for something they don't even want in the first place? Hypocrisy. If MS uses the device in the manner suggested they'll get sued to kingdom come. They have huge departments just to prevent this kind of thing. It's all opt in data, nothing the consumer is committed to.

To be honest you guys should be more worried about Sony (and any other major company) protecting you data on their 'secure' servers than something like this. Yeah, there's a real valid concern based actual history.

Not one of the well known XBone DRM supporters calling out Sony fanboys. You were one of th few people supporting DRM so I guess i should ignore

 

[Black-Box]

Those departments take the week off when the Skype data was provided?

I thought Skype was providing data before joining MS.

 

[XFistsClenchedX]

I feel sorry for people who are so willing to surrender their personal freedoms. It's not paranoia at all but its pretty clear you don't follow the news at all or you would know that.

I feel sorry for people who live their lives in fear. If you guys care so much about your privacy, throw away your computers and cell phones and go live off the grid in the woods somewhere.

 

[RockTurtle]

microsoft might not provide data to NSA, but what guarantee do we have their 3rd party partners wont? you know, the ones who WILL be receiving our data.

 

[medze]

the news whole whole purpose to create sensational heads to full viewer ship to gain ad revenue? that news?

you can read the PRISM documents yourself ya know? the information isn't hard to find, but sounds like its hard to accept. at least for some people...

 

[eastmen]

so why didn't they do this when the government was seeking data from their other stuff?

What makes you think sony , aplke , google and all other compabys wouldnt also give information and access to the goverment when court ordered ?

 

[Valkyria]

The hell is wrong with people? Smartphones, laptops, mics and headsets all have these very same functions and your all worried about 'spying' now, 10 years later? Hypocrisy. Those crying wolf aren't even buying the device (Sony fanboys) and voicing concern for something they don't even want in the first place? Hypocrisy. If MS uses the device in the manner suggested they'll get sued to kingdom come. They have huge departments just to prevent this kind of thing. It's all opt in data, nothing the consumer is committed to.

To be honest you guys should be more worried about Sony (and any other major company) protecting you data on their 'secure' servers than something like this. Yeah, there's a real valid concern based actual history.

In Spain we call this defence "Y tu más" (and you more), our politicians mastered it. It doesn't matter if I do crap, OTHERS do crap too, and maybe is bigger.

Oh God, anything for the good fight.

 

[ElFly]

We know you are legally binded to lie, Microsoft.

Why you even try.

 

[Vashetti]

 

[Oersted]

I feel sorry for people who live their lives in fear. If you guys care so much about your privacy, throw away your computers and cell phones and go live off the grid in the woods somewhere.

Call us when you care about your privacy.

microsoft might not provide data to NSA, but what guarantee do we have their 3rd party partners wont? you know, the ones who WILL be receiving our data.

They do. End of story.

 

[spwolf]

i have very little doubt that MS would fight to death not to allow this...

 

[Hoho for breakfast]

oops thought it did ... doesn't matter the wii u, vita and 3ds does,, oh no!!!!

You keep bringing other things up and it's irrelevant bullshit. Let's flip this for a second and pretend we're on the Apple forums discussing the privacy issues with an iPad. Now I come in and start "defending" it by saying that Microsoft and Google do this too! It isn't just Apple! It's ridiculous. Stop.

I'll also point out (since you're somehow apparently unaware) that Sony and Nintendo are both Japanese companies. They are not named in this PRISM mess because they aren't the NSA's bitches. That's not to say that it isn't entirely possible that these companies and/or their governments also use their devices for these kinds of purposes, but so far there is no evidence of that.

 

[Arkos]

So relevant. Captures the seemingly innocuous setup, the horrible possibilities, but also the seemingly (but perhaps not actually) paranoid nature of people worrying about Kinect and the govt. Its about personal abuse, but it really applies to the situation as a whole..

 

[XFistsClenchedX]

Call us when you care about your privacy.

I have nothing to hide. If you also have nothing to hide, then you have nothing to worry about.

 

[NullPointer]

I feel sorry for people who live their lives in fear. If you guys care so much about your privacy, throw away your computers and cell phones and go live off the grid in the woods somewhere.

First they'll say its not happening, then they'll say any collection of data is rare, then they'll say that yes, while collection is widespread and universal, everybody does it, and finally we'll settle on nobody having any right to privacy anywhere at any time, with constitutional protections being a quaint relic of some long lost age.

That's how these threads always go.

Every time.

 

[WrenchNinja]

The hell is wrong with people? Smartphones, laptops, mics and headsets all have these very same functions and your all worried about 'spying' now, 10 years later? Hypocrisy. Those crying wolf aren't even buying the device (Sony fanboys) and voicing concern for something they don't even want in the first place? Hypocrisy. If MS uses the device in the manner suggested they'll get sued to kingdom come. They have huge departments just to prevent this kind of thing. It's all opt in data, nothing the consumer is committed to.

To be honest you guys should be more worried about Sony (and any other major company) protecting you data on their 'secure' servers than something like this. Yeah, there's a real valid concern based actual history.

It must be a sad existence to constantly be in defence of practices working against you.

 

[pixlexic]

You keep bringing other things up and it's irrelevant bullshit. Let's flip this for a second and pretend we're on the Apple forums discussing the privacy issues with an iPad. Now I come in and start "defending" it by saying that Microsoft and Google do this too! It isn't just Apple! It's ridiculous. Stop.

I'll also point out (since you're somehow apparently unaware) that Sony and Nintendo are both Japanese companies. They are not named in this PRISM mess because they aren't the NSA's bitches. That's not to say that it isn't entirely possible that these companies also use their devices for these kinds of purposes, but so far there is no evidence of that.

I only brought them up for those who think I am arguing this because I am somehow a MS fanboy.

and there are people here going further than NSA and are talking about hackers around the world.

so now maybe you can see my points. There are different groups here arguing different things.

 

[Coxy]

I feel sorry for people who live their lives in fear. If you guys care so much about your privacy, throw away your computers and cell phones and go live off the grid in the woods somewhere.

I feel sorry for cowards whose only options are run away or put up with it rather than fight it.

 

[Arkos]

I have nothing to hide. If you also have nothing to hide, then you have nothing to worry about.

WOW read a book this argument was disproven like 3000 years ago

 

[Vashetti]

the news whole purpose to create sensational head lines to fuel viewer ship to gain ad revenue? that news?

This isn't some tinfoil hat nonsense that fanboy warriors are coming up just to say "my consoles better, yours is shit!"

This is a genuine problem. Why do you you think people keep bringing it up?

Educate yourselves, people:

http://www.guardian.co.uk/world/2013/jul/11/microsoft-nsa-collaboration-user-data

 

[Osiris]

Let's just remind ourselves what Microsoft did to lose credibility on this, considering how ignorant some posters have shown themselves to be:

• Microsoft helped the NSA to circumvent its encryption to address concerns that the agency would be unable to intercept web chats on the new Outlook.com portal;

• The agency already had pre-encryption stage access to email on Outlook.com, including Hotmail;

• The company worked with the FBI this year to allow the NSA easier access via Prism to its cloud storage service SkyDrive, which now has more than 250 million users worldwide;

• Microsoft also worked with the FBI's Data Intercept Unit to "understand" potential issues with a feature in Outlook.com that allows users to create email aliases;

• In July last year, nine months after Microsoft bought Skype, the NSA boasted that a new capability had tripled the amount of Skype video calls being collected through Prism;

• Material collected through Prism is routinely shared with the FBI and CIA, with one NSA document describing the program as a "team sport".

 

[PSGames]

He is just another ardent Xbox supporter.

this needs to stop becoming an argument. it adds nothing to the discussion.

 

[Duxxy3]

Lol anyone who thinks kinect won't be spying on you.

 

[Valkyria]

I have nothing to hide. If you also have nothing to hide, then you have nothing to worry about.

I hope you are 15, that exact phrase was used in the Communisms countries. Don't you worry about the secret police, the abuse or the tortures if you have nothing to do.

Console wars has reached a new level: I don't care to live in 1984 as long my beloved company wins the holy war.

 

[bobbytkc]

I have nothing to hide. If you also have nothing to hide, then you have nothing to worry about.

Wait, you think privacy is about hiding something ? Wow.

 

[Oersted]

I have nothing to hide. If you also have nothing to hide, then you have nothing to worry about.

Are you some kind of performer?

 

[tino]

Aggressively = "Here is all the ethnic/age/family structure/purchase history you ask for but by god you will not have the pictures of our gamers playing in their underwears!"

 

[XFistsClenchedX]

WOW read a book this argument was disproven like 3000 years ago

Because life 3,000 years ago is the same as it is today.

 

[pixlexic]

It must be a sad existence to constantly be in defence of practices working against you.

wait what is working again him ?

That you want to think MS is scheming with the government to spy on you?

Or that they are scheming to sell pictures of you in your underwear to the big evil cooperation for advertising data ?

lol

 

[Freki]

I have nothing to hide. If you also have nothing to hide, then you have nothing to worry about.

Please set up webcams in every room of your house and give me access - thank you.

 

[GribbleGrunger]

So, they signed a contract with PRISM to allow information to be passed to the NSA and now they're going to aggressively fight the NSA if they want information ...

ok ... ok ...

 

[tino]

I think this whole fear of the government spying on you is paranoia. If the government wants to watch me sit in front of the television in my underwear eating junk food, they're welcome to watch.

Even the posters in the Chinese forum I go to are not this spineless.

 

[Valkyria]

Because life 3,000 years ago is the same as it is today.

Now for real, please tell me your age or how much you get paid per post.

 

[Arkos]

Because life 3,000 years ago is the same as it is today.

No it's not. But logic is

 

[Man-is-Obsolete]

So MS just admitted that it is possible for the Kinect to spy on people?

First thing I thought.

 

[Black-Box]

They're advertising Bengay on a games console. Think about that for a second.

Edit: Kinect 2 version = Say "I love Bengay" to receive 20% your next tube!

contests with ads are okay because usually contests are sponsored by a third party. Ones that are just simple ads and nothing more got to go.

 

[Rashid]

This is just a plan to make consumers think Microsoft won't allow the Feds to listen in, so they'll be more relaxed and more susceptible to saying compromising things because they think Microsoft won't allow them to be heard, so the Feds can do more drone strikes on US civilians who jokingly said they'd shoot up a school and novelist can be paid more taxpayer money by allowing the Feds to listen in.

I'm onto you, Bill Gates. Or whoever runs it nowadays.

 

[Uncle Rupee]

If they gave them a back door in Outlook, I highly doubt they would care about preventing access to data from Kinect.