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Microsoft will "aggressively challenge" any gov't attempt to spy through Kinect
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Wouldn't that be Smartphones instead of Xbone?
Id love to hear this argument if you don't mind indulging us
Thank you NSA for your surveillance without telling me. I might not have a daughter, but if she gets kidnapped at my home, I would really pleased if you got a video of that incident and share it with me.
some guy I talked to talked to a guy who did was suspected of maybe doing something once, I guess I have no rights
http://arstechnica.com/information-...-nsas-three-degrees-surveillance-sweepstakes/
its 2 to 3 hops. It basically means everyone could be a suspect.
Compilation of typical defenses found so far:
- But Apple, Google, and others do it too!
- I got nothing to hide, so I am not afraid. Do you have anything to hide?
- You need a Trojan/Virus in order to have access to Kinect. It's impossible to accomplish that due to the closed architecture of the system.
- You guys are paranoid with your tinfoil hats.
- Why didn't you make a fuss about this 10 years ago with all those cameras on laptops, etc. You bunch of hypocrites.
- It's impossible for MS to do this because Kinect would be uploading trillions of GBs of video & audio! Your ISP would flag you.
- You can turn off Kinect!
- You are a MS hater!
- Who the hell spies on millions of people?
Did I miss anything?
- But Apple, Google, and others do it too!
- I got nothing to hide, so I am not afraid. Do you have anything to hide?
- You need a Trojan/Virus in order to have access to Kinect. It's impossible to accomplish that due to the closed architecture of the system.
- You guys are paranoid with your tinfoil hats.
- Why didn't you make a fuss about this 10 years ago with all those cameras on laptops, etc. You bunch of hypocrites.
- It's impossible for MS to do this because Kinect would be uploading trillions of GBs of video & audio! Your ISP would flag you.
- You can turn off Kinect!
- You are a MS hater!
- Who the hell spies on millions of people?
Did I miss anything?
-Your kidnapped daughter will be rescued thanks to kinect
Dark Rider
Member
This is an important point. Maybe MS (and the other companies on that list) can try to talk about them trying to prevent this in court for the USA citizens, every single person who is not a USA citizen is simply a free pass for them. Not a USA citizen? too bad you have no rights whatsoever and will be treated like subhuman in that regard (the privacy issue).
Osiris
I permanently banned my 6 year old daughter from using the PS4 for mistakenly sending grief reports as it's too hard to watch or talk to her
Stuff like this happened. They have been thrown into Guantanamo for doing their job as taxidriver. Or haven´t been allowed to take their flight.
Mobile phones.
Osiris
I permanently banned my 6 year old daughter from using the PS4 for mistakenly sending grief reports as it's too hard to watch or talk to her
You never hear of "Six degrees of separation" - which was recently discovered to be closer to 4 degrees of separation for those who are online?
I guess not.
If you have a cell phone you're already being spied on, so you might as well give up full privacy in your home, or you're a hypocritical MS hater.
Arkos
Nose how to spell and rede to
Exactly! So what happens when they make being green a crime? They always said "it ain't easy being green."
Also, "it ain't easy bein white," and "it ain't easy bein brown."
Your logic is flawless.
I guarantee you some lurker is loving this thread right now but can't say anything. Fireworks!
they were listening to OVER SEAS SOLDIERS phone conversations in 2008 at the height of the terrorist war.
umm i got nothing more to add really..
For what it is worth I think there is a world of difference between there being cameras all over public places and having one right in my bedroom/living room. I don't think anyone should expect to have privacy walking down the street, shopping in a store, eating at a restaurant, etc. If cameras want to watch my every move out there fine. In my living room or bedroom though yeah I expect privacy there. The idea that someone (I use someone loosely as most likely it won't be a person, but a program) might be watching is a little worrying.
I also don't buy the whole if you got nothing to hide or they will only watch bad people arguments either. The government seems to have a very vague definition of "bad" person these days.
Anyway even with all that said I feel I am much more likely to be listened in or watched to collect information for advertising then for the government. Which isn't much better in my book.
SpecDotSign
Unconfirmed Member
lol. Microsoft just can't catch a break.
personal attack and calling me a fanboy.. classy.
After 2008 it definetely stopped.
You are not only ignorant you are dense as well.
This was a response to this post:
I'd say the NSA listening in on "sex calls" and sharing them amongst colleagues pretty much disqualifies the post I quoted...
Again soldiers on active duty based overseas. Of course they are going to screen them.
you brought up a article from 2008 about the military screening active duty soldiers phones calls from over seas and I am dense?
Arkos
Nose how to spell and rede to
Well I don't know how applicable that gif may be in the future, but damned if it isn't well made.
PseudoKirby
Banned
Fuck people, nothing MS can do is right to you guys.
if this same situation was placed on Sony everyone would be all flowers and smiles, quick to believe them.
if this same situation was placed on Sony everyone would be all flowers and smiles, quick to believe them.
again, PRISM. It's a real thing that Microsoft was actively involved in. It was not specific to active duty soldiers and it was not specific to US citizens either. Personal information was collected globally (and probably still is being collected) and handed over to the NSA without question.
I don't even know what you're arguing anymore. No matter how many times your comments are disproved with direct links and sources, your mind obviously isn't gonna change. The rest of us would rather not bend over and take it dry like you are so willing to do.
Almost as classy as playing the lowest common denominator in all these arguments...
MS could pop up with the cure for cancer, and the people in this thread would believe it's some sort of strain of Ebola.
biggersmaller
Banned
Plausible deniability.
Arkos
Nose how to spell and rede to
Suikoguy
I whinny my fervor lowly, for his length is not as great as those of the Hylian war stallions
Talk about a woe is me persecution complex. ROFL.
This should be in the GAF Microsoft Defense-Force hall of fame.
José Mourinho
cocknose
Oh, an NSA thread. Usual old nonsense in here...
Arkos
Nose how to spell and rede to
I'm sure it's made shit posts by now, no?
Yes - read the article - read what I replied to originally and you might have an epiphany...
who am I kidding
Osiris
I permanently banned my 6 year old daughter from using the PS4 for mistakenly sending grief reports as it's too hard to watch or talk to her
So you're saying it's nonsense that Microsoft assisted and provided the NSA with backdoor access to Skype, Outlook / Email and Skydrive?
FacelessSamurai
..but cry so much I wish I had some
I work in another country's military organization, and while some people might not understand, when you go overseas you are briefed several times about all of this as it is not only to protect your country, but also to protect yourself and your family against terrorists and extortion, etc. If you had seen how dangerous it actually is you'd understand, and I for one felt a lot safer, although my country doesn't do it to the extent of the US military, but I am definitely aware of it. If you look at the news you'll see that people apying on their own country and selling that information is in fact real and still happens, and it can take years to track. The fact that a few people in the US military couldn't take their job seriously is probably not indicative of the organization as a whole, and is only used as sensationalized headlines in the news; as if their job was to listen to "sex calls"!
thetrin
Hail, peons, for I have come as ambassador from the great and bountiful Blueberry Butt Explosion
Well, that's how I found this thread, so yeah.
XFistsClenchedX
Banned
You'd have to go back to the launch of the PS3. Sony made claims that CG videos were gameplay. The original PS3 design was going to have dual display support and 2 additional USB slots, which they took away before the PS3 released. It was going to have multiple ethernet ports and could serve as an ethernet hub, that went bye bye before release. When the price of the PS3 was made known (approx. $600-700 adjusted for inflation depending on model), Ken Kuturagi said that it is probably too cheap and you should just work more hours to buy one. They promised backwards compatibility and the ability to install Linux onto the PS3 -- both of which they took away from people after the console released. Sony had a fake viral marketing website where they pretended to be two young PSP fans trying to get people to buy the PSP until Sony was exposed. Then there are arrogant Sony quotes like..
"Consider the US with its massive land and cheap people. Then you look at the UK - a little island where rent and rates are at an absolute premium, and the cost of people is a lot more."
"The first five million are going to buy it [the PS3], whatever it is, even [if] it didn't have games."
"If you can find a PS3 anywhere in North America that's been on shelves for more than five minutes, I'll give you 1,200 bucks for it."
Then there were other little broken promises along the way. Oh, and I forgot to mention how they thought that it wasn't important to keep the security for their customer's data up-to-date.
mr teaspoon
Member
lol, is that a thing I just read?
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