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Microsoft Confirms 53MHz GPU Speed Upgrade For Xbox One

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mrklaw

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Canis lupus said:
A 50mhz increase on PS4 gpu would make it close to 2TFLOPs, but everyone already assumes a PS4 upgrade(pre/post launch) is less likely due to heat issues cause of the smaller size. I disagree with the notion that something smaller is likely to make more noise and run hotter. One just has to compare PS3 fat with slim models. The PS4 will be fine and we will see similar upgrades.
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Noise isn't that important when playing a game, they just need to be careful about heat. And an overclock wouldn't affect noise levels during OS/media playback because the GPU would be pretty much idling anyway.

I do wonder about heat though. With the fine grained compute, isn't there the potential to really push the GPU? Like how furmark is used for stress testing but doesn't reflect real world gaming, it might actually be closer to how a heavily graphics+compute APU would be used?
 
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TheOddOne

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They only people making a big deal out of this are people who claim it isn't a big deal. The amount of effort to disprove this should not be this big if you think this isn't a big deal.

It's something minor that got center stage when details got out.
 
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BleachAndPepsi

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StudioTan said:
XBO or XO are acronyms, Xbone is like saying Usamerica. If people think it's funny and they like (and think) that it annoys people that's fine, though childish, but people pretending it's the correct abbreviation or somehow the easiest thing to type are being a bit disingenuous.
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XBO and XO are only acronyms if you pronounce them "ex bow" and "zoe," respectively.

If you pronounce them "ex bee oh" and "ex oh," they're initialisms, not acronyms.

Just spreading the gospel.
 
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Bam Bam Baklava

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StudioTan said:
XBO or XO are acronyms, Xbone is like saying Usamerica. If people think it's funny and they like (and think) that it annoys people that's fine, though childish, but people pretending it's the correct abbreviation or somehow the easiest thing to type are being a bit disingenuous.
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You're taking all this pretty seriously.
 
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StudioTan

Hold on, friend! I'd love to share with you some swell news about the Windows 8 Metro UI! Wait, where are you going?
BleachAndPepsi said:
XBO and XO are only acronyms if you pronounce them "ex bow" and "zoe," respectively.

If you pronounce them "ex bee oh" and "ex oh," they're initialisms, not acronyms.

Just spreading the gospel.
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"The term acronym is the name for a word from the first letters of each word in a series of words"

Style Fox said:
You're taking all this pretty seriously.
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Not in the least.
 
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perineumlick

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TheOddOne said:
They only people making a big deal out of this are people who claim it isn't a big deal. The amount of effort to disprove this should not be this big if you think this isn't a big deal.

It's something minor that got center stage when details got out.
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I think it's more a case of people who are so bummed out over all the negative vibes surrounding the Xbox One that they will jump on anything minutely perceived as positive and run with it.
 
MaulerX

MaulerX

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StudioTan said:
XBO or XO are acronyms, Xbone is like saying Usamerica. If people think it's funny and they like (and think) that it annoys people that's fine, though childish, but people pretending it's the correct abbreviation or somehow the easiest thing to type are being a bit disingenuous.
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Exactly. Not sure how people came to the conclusion that Xbone was an acronym. If people want to use it to suit their agenda, fine. But definitely not an acronym.
 
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ZoddGutts

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jres80 said:
53% is a trivial, meaningless amount of overclocking. Anyone with anyone experience in CPU/GPU overclocking can tell you that.

This is just a PR move.
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Seems to be working. On Amazon it's move on from #48 to #42. While PS4 Killzone bundle is #41.
Standard PS4 is at #15 and launch ver is #19. Still a long way to go for X-One.
 
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Pwn

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Xbox one?
X1 ?
Xbone ?
cross bone ? ...

4026992-778295-two-realistic-crossbone.jpg


CROSS BONE!
 
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TheOddOne

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perineumlick said:
I think it's more a case of people who are so bummed out over all the negative vibes surrounding the Xbox One that they will jump on anything minutely perceived as positive and run with it.
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Something that is actually positive should not be seen as positive? That seems petty.

Imagine if Sony or Nintendo did the same, how could anybody see this as anything but positive.
 
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Averon

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What's wrong with the term "Xbone"? It's just an abbreviation of Xbox One, noting more, noting less. There's nothing sinister or derogatory about Xbone.
 
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Bsigg12

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TheOddOne said:
Something that is actually positive should not be seen as positive? That seems petty.

Imagine if Sony or Nintendo did the same, how could anybody see this as anything but positive.
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All these anti-Microsoft people cannot accept the fact that there is positive news. They have to try and spin it so it seems meaningless. If this were Sony each person would be writing home about how amazing the PS4 is now since it was upped 53mhz.

Also not directed at you OddOne, but HBO = Home Box Office is the same as XBO/XO = Xbox One.
 
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Ironmanxrs2

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ChorusLindarr said:
If MS PR attempts to push this knowing that virtually every multi-platform game will look and/or run better on their competitors platform then they will be inviting unwanted performance comparisons upon themselves that they will have no chance in hell of winning.

Much better for MS PR to focus on exclusive content and XBL features like "clowd powa!"

I don't think too many at all will be fooled by meaningless spec numbers when post-launch the games will speak for themselves.
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LOL - so all multiplats will be better on PS4? May I borrow your time machine?
 
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perineumlick

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TheOddOne said:
Something that is actually positive should not be seen as positive? That seems petty.

Imagine if Sony or Nintendo did the same, how could anybody see this as anything but positive.
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Just as petty as saying that the only people making a big deal of this are those who are trying to disprove it. I could care less; I'm done with all the warrior shit back and forth, but it has become a bit embarrassing to watch unfold. Now people are upset over the XBone name. Just bring on the games, and let the dummies fight the good fight.
 
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ElektroDragon

Banned
OK, I have this idea on how to make a Xbox One a MUCH better value and a RUNAWAY hit.

I recently read on Slashdot that MS is sitting on 6 million in inventory of unsold Surface tablets (the WinRT versions, not Surface Pro).

This unsold inventory would be such a FANTASTIC companion to Xbox One... not only because of Smart Glass integration, but because its another avenue for Xbox One owners to purchase Xbox Live enabled games.

So how about Microsoft keep the price at $499 but give away the unsold Surface tablets FREE with every Xbox One order until they run out? This would make Xbox One a smashing success.

The original $500 Surface can't even be sold for the new reduced price of $350, because the Intel Atom based full Windows 8 tablets much more capable than Surface have also in turn be slashed to $350 by a few OEMs like Lenovo and Asus.

I think I have an excellent idea here. I think I should be promoted out of Junior rank so I can post such excellent ideas as threads, or be hired by Microsoft's marketing department immediately. :D
 
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Pwn

Member
Actually, PC gamers will PRAISE THE SUN!!! if PS4 becomes baseline platform of multi-platform games.

That means multi-platform games are getting better graphicX.
 
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bronzeP

Banned
ElektroDragon said:
OK, I have this idea on how to make a Xbox One a MUCH better value and a RUNAWAY hit.

I recently read on Slashdot that MS is sitting on 6 million in inventory of unsold Surface tablets (the WinRT versions, not Surface Pro).

This unsold inventory would be such a FANTASTIC companion to Xbox One... not only because of Smart Glass integration, but because its another avenue for Xbox One owners to purchase Xbox Live enabled games.

So how about Microsoft keep the price at $499 but give away the unsold Surface tablets FREE with every Xbox One order until they run out? This would make Xbox One a smashing success.

The original $500 Surface can't even be sold for the new reduced price of $350, because the Intel Atom based full Windows 8 tablets much more capable than Surface have also in turn be slashed to $350 by a few OEMs like Lenovo and Asus.

I think I have an excellent idea here. I think I should be promoted out of Junior rank so I can post such excellent ideas as threads, or be hired by Microsoft's marketing department immediately. :D
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Thank god people like you don't run the industry lol. Don't want to sound like a douche but it IS a bad idea. You have to consider thousands of factors.
 
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Ironmanxrs2

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nitrofeen said:
OMG a whole 53mhz. Just enough to make the news but not enough to scare people into worrying about rrod all over again.
I still dont get why if they claim the 40% or 50% more raw power the ps4 has is really not going to amount to much , then why strive to close the gap as little as 5% or whatever it is.

Also not sure why this proves the yield rumor false. One thing to remember is microsoft delayed asia launch by a full year. Japan isnt getting the xbox one at launch either.

These policies could be a direct result of yield issues
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I don't get this line of thinking. The extra 53hz was essentially free and they could do it without any other changes. Why wouldn't they optimize it?

There is no way that box will RROD. It's designed to run near silent. They didn't want to change the power source or jeopardize its quiet design.

As for the people who can't fathom why the two consoles would be so close, it's because the custom silicone has some extras in there that can close the gap. The sound cluster for instance can free up a lot of computation needs. Also the CPU bus is much faster in the XBOX.
 
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RoboPlato

I'd be in the dick
Ironmanxrs2 said:
I don't get this line of thinking. The extra 53hz was essentially free and they could do it without any other changes. Why wouldn't they optimize it?

There is no way that box will RROD. It's designed to run near silent. They didn't want to change the power source or jeopardize its quiet design.

As for the people who can't fathom why the two consoles would be so close, it's because the custom silicone has some extras in there that can close the gap. The sound cluster for instance can free up a lot of computation needs. Also the CPU bus is much faster in the XBOX.
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PS4 has it's own audio hardware as well. XBO's is more powerful but that's because it has the extra factor of Kinect audio (vocal recognition, processing, and echo cancellation take a lot of computational power). People keep bringing up the Shape chip as some huge advantage but it really won't make a difference between the two machines.
 
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Krilekk

Banned
Impeccable said:
XbOne forever and always. It follows the official guidelines of reference!
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One, X1, XO, XOne, Xbox 1. Those are the terms that make sense. Xb has never been used for Xbox, it was either Xbox, X360 or just 360. And the whole point of an acronym is that it's shorter. Which is why it was 360 and should be X1. The term Xbone was born when people were mad about the TV capabilities of Xbox One. And it has since become a visible reminder of trolling just like M$.
 
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TheOddOne

Member
perineumlick said:
Just as petty as saying that the only people making a big deal of this are those who are trying to disprove it. I could care less; I'm done with all the warrior shit back and forth, but it has become a bit embarrassing to watch unfold. Now people are upset over the XBone name. Just bring on the games, and let the dummies fight the good fight.
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There is nothing petty about that, because looking at the types of replies, it more or less proves my point to a certain extent (some were very valid complaints though). My point is that It's a double standard that is rediculous in any context.

Console warrior bullshit is always stupid, but pointing out the holes in the logic is something that should happen.
 
SenjutsuSage

SenjutsuSage

Banned
Since the Xbox One, and what we call it is such a big topic currently, I'll toss in my preference. I'll call the Xbox One "The One."
 
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