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First ever DriveClub direct feed racing footage (GamesCom)
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AdlaiSeven
Member
PSY・S;77965865 said:dat reflection
I don't know, maybe there just needs to be better footage, but that reflection just looks off to me. It's too pronounced and too opaque. It's need to be more subtle. Right now it's kinda in your face like a bad lens flare instead of being realistic. Hopefully they'll adjust it before launch.
Metalmurphy
Member
It's in your face when the sun is flashing right at you. It's more subtle in other situations, and considering the day/night cycle, there's gonna be tons of those.
Metalmurphy
Member
Yeah, shadows get cast on the actually windscreen and not just the dash.
ethomaz
Banned
No lighting? This gif looks more real-life than the DriveClub and Forza one... but I saw now that it is really GT5 (the objects just vanished from nothing on the rearview).
You're looking at the wrong footage, see the vid I posted earlier.
PSY・S;78088269 said:I posted this in the Killzone thread but people keep linking it here, which makes sense lol
Drive Club on top, Forza 5 below.
Yea, that sums up the difference to me.
Forza looks great but has that gamey look to it, which is good ( eye candy, more vivid colours) but makes it look... fake in a sense.
Driveclub on the other hand may look a little dull in comparison but overall just has a more natural look and feel to it and the environments.
I much prefer Driveclub's look though, just looks more real.
I think Forza 5 looks amazing. And it definitely has the leg up over Driveclub with image quality, as well as being 60fps. The lighting just looks so much better on Driveclub, though, as well as the gorgeous fully 3D environments. I really hope they improve the image quality on Driveclub, even if they don't get it to 60fps. Could be a VERY good looking game.
Yeah, looks like a dash cam or something. It's nice.
I love this camera in Drive Club:
Much more usable than the traditional "in-car view", but you still get the in-car feeling.
Yeah, looks like a dash cam or something. It's nice.
Red Chocobo
Banned
I love this camera in Drive Club:
Much more usable than the traditional "in-car view", but you still get the in-car feeling.
It will be the best view if you are using a wheel.
Image quality (AA etc) would probably be one of the last things addressed, so I don't thnk you can read anything into it not being great at gamescom. But yes, fingers crossed.
Hydrargyrus
Member
Those gifs really have sold me the game.
Before the gamescom I highly doubted that I was going to play more that the free DriveClub PSN+ edition, but now, I'm sure that I will upgrade it to the entire version.
cyberheater
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I think it's a mixture of low bitrate and the perfect weather conditions on that lap conspire to make it look real. It's uncanny.
AdlaiSeven
Member
I just think it too over pronounced. Even after the turn it still highly visible on the screen. For flashy graphics, it's alright, but realistic it is not.
SirMossyBloke
Member
I love this camera in Drive Club:
Much more usable than the traditional "in-car view", but you still get the in-car feeling.
Fiiiiiiinnnaalllyyy. Havent seen hood view before.
100% sold now.
Metalmurphy
Member
That's not hood view, thats dashboard view, the game also has the traditional hood view.
darkside31337
Tomodachi wa Mahou
How many third person views are there? I think I've only see one so far.
I honestly don't like playing my racing games from a first person perspective. I know thats weird but whatever.
I honestly don't like playing my racing games from a first person perspective. I know thats weird but whatever.
Evolution_1ne
Banned
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JpzoA0dF40o
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kQO6JHZl-Cs
still the best sunset I've ever seen
Neuromancer
Member
These jifs are fantastic.
mangochutney
Member
Just thought, with Rushy saying he'll get us uncompressed footage after the weekend - it is a bank (public) holiday here in the UK on Monday so it might be Tuesday that we get the footage.
velociraptor
Junior Member
Forza has great IQ, great motion blur, great shadows.
Driveclub would look a lot better it could improve on the above.
Metalmurphy
Member
What motion blur?
Khalifa Jayy
Banned
We need a chase cam that's slightly further out and raised a bit. I hope the guys at Evolution realize that.
velociraptor
Junior Member
Look at the gameplay videos.
HawksWinStanley
Member
I think I'm sold on Drive Club. This game is shaping up to be really impressive.
ChronotriggerJM
Member
It must be my rose tinted glasses, but the current build of Forza 5 looks abysmal by comparison. I don't even think the IQ is anything amazing, and given that there aren't any night cycles you would have thought that the lighting would be all it could be. I'm positive it'll look amazing when it hits, but all those gifs are pretty weak. Is evolution known for skimping on image fidelity?
plagiarize
Banned
I love this camera in Drive Club:
Much more usable than the traditional "in-car view", but you still get the in-car feeling.
I saw that in gamersyde's footage right before they finished the race. I am ALL about a sensible in car view. finally someone gets it right.
looking at all these next gen forza and DC videos, the next thing that sticks out to me that makes it look less realistic are the rear and side mirrors. they dont look like theyre reflections of the world on a glass mirror. they look like theyre posted video images into a frame.
there needs to be some work to make those mirrors look more like mirrors. theres differences in brightness, theres a little less clarity. I dunno.
thats the kicker, isnt it? the closer we get to lifelike images, the more pronounced the small things look to take us out of the world.
there needs to be some work to make those mirrors look more like mirrors. theres differences in brightness, theres a little less clarity. I dunno.
thats the kicker, isnt it? the closer we get to lifelike images, the more pronounced the small things look to take us out of the world.
Both Forza and Driveclub look amazing to me, the biggest difference seems to be lighting and coloring.
Driveclub looks duller but Forza looks more fake. Both have advantages and disadvantages but so far so good.
Forza looked great to me from the start but it's nice that Driveclub is coming a long as well.
EDIT: Sweet, I am a member now
Driveclub looks duller but Forza looks more fake. Both have advantages and disadvantages but so far so good.
Forza looked great to me from the start but it's nice that Driveclub is coming a long as well.
EDIT: Sweet, I am a member now
Too much bloom, would not play.
SatansReverence
Hipster Princess
What that gif has to do with baked vs dynamic lighting is beyond me.
And if you're going to compare windshield reflections, this is a much more appropriate gif.
The visibility of it is entirely dependent on the lighting conditions. Shadows can be seen moving across the reflection and hands/steering wheel are seen in real time as well.
mattiewheels
And then the LORD David Bowie saith to his Son, Jonny Depp: 'Go, and spread my image amongst the cosmos. For every living thing is in anguish and only the LIGHT shall give them reprieve.'
Hey, this game's 1080p, right?
As of now 1080p:30 FPS.
SatansReverence
Hipster Princess
1080p/30fps afaik
What that gif has to do with baked vs dynamic lighting is beyond me.
And if you're going to compare windshield reflections, this is a much more appropriate gif.
The visibility of it is entirely dependent on the lighting conditions. Shadows can be seen moving across the reflection and hands/steering wheel are seen in real time as well.
Really interesting comparing this to that of DriveClubs. You can tell immediately which is pre baked and which is dynamic, because Forza 5's sort of just randomly appears out of no where whilst DriveClub's exactly correlates with the gleam of sun that appears through the tree's.
According to Evolution, the target is 1080p/60fps. Currently runs at 1080p but has not met the 60fps target yet.
SatansReverence
Hipster Princess
What am I even reading?
Look at the way the shadows move across it and how it fades away as the car turns away from the sun.
Where is the sun?
ionicbluebird
Member
Forza has better motion blur than Driveclub, which is suprising. I think they just added the motion blur recently because I don't remember it there in the E3 build.
EdReedFan20
Member
Any word on split-screen?
SatansReverence
Hipster Princess
I think the only motion blur FM5 has at gamescon in from the screens they are using.
Watching blims 60fps videos there doesn't appear to be any. Perhaps it's because of 30fps video of a 60fps game.
In the sky? What a silly question
The positioning of which is not really clear. The entire sky is the same hugh. I know I'm nitpicking, but in terms of lighting accuracy, that scene is off. There is no good indication of which direction the sun is coming from. Not even the railings and flags are casting shadows in the correct direction, nor is the reflection of the dash reacting in any sort of realistic way. It's sort of like Turn 10 just decided that particular spot would be a good time to introduce some dashboard reflection. Not that it matters much, or as if you'd really notice racing at such speeds.
Anyway, OT...
SatansReverence
Hipster Princess
What an absolute load of rubbish.
It's quite obviously to the left of screen with the way the shadows are cast/moving.
Windshield reflections occur all around the track entirely dependent on what the current lighting conditions allow (i.e in shadow/out of shadow. direct sunlight/indirect sunlight).
Both games are doing pretty much the exact same thing except FM5 has the hand/steering wheel reflected as well.