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(Rumour) AMD R290x (9970) benchmarks leak - faster than Nvidia Titan
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I do wonder how much the wider bus will help. It should be particularly effective at extremely high resolutions, but generally I was under the impression that current cards are rarely BW limited.
No, 120 Hz. Acer H5360.
Or use SSAA.
There are plenty of examples where all of these recommended @1080p cards just don't cut it @1080p.
People who buy high end video cards?
Why would you have $1000 worth of graphics cards in your system and turn shit down for no reason? Shadows effect the way a game looks far more than most other settings, turn them off and you might as well just buy a console and call it a day.
http://wccftech.com/amd-hawaii-r929...osed-fastest-gpu-planet-1020-mhz-clock-speed/
So it only has 44 ROPs and not 48 like Titan.
Also, a bit of conflicting message that the 1020MHz core speed may not be the default speed but rather a 'boost' similiar to what Nvidia implemented (900MHz default).
http://videocardz.com/45837/amd-hawaii-gpu-2816-stream-processors
At least we only have a few days to find out. It appears the general performance numbers/specs from the leaks must be accurate since they're starting to filter in from different sources.
So it only has 44 ROPs and not 48 like Titan.
Also, a bit of conflicting message that the 1020MHz core speed may not be the default speed but rather a 'boost' similiar to what Nvidia implemented (900MHz default).
http://videocardz.com/45837/amd-hawaii-gpu-2816-stream-processors
At least we only have a few days to find out. It appears the general performance numbers/specs from the leaks must be accurate since they're starting to filter in from different sources.
Argh i hate this current situation .
I Want a high end card with allot of V-ram (4+) and The titan high amount is perfect .
The problem is that i want a lot of power and if the 800 series has the potential to wipe the floor with Titan then i can better wait until those are out but there is no certainty that those cards will come with as much RAM as the Titan .
Allot of V-ram is a requirement for me (and awesome power of course).
I Want a high end card with allot of V-ram (4+) and The titan high amount is perfect .
The problem is that i want a lot of power and if the 800 series has the potential to wipe the floor with Titan then i can better wait until those are out but there is no certainty that those cards will come with as much RAM as the Titan .
Allot of V-ram is a requirement for me (and awesome power of course).
Even if the 8XX series initially launches with only 3GB, you can bet that there will be partners offering 6GB versions at some point.
cobragt4001
Banned
I should have specified about the settings. I select the second best settings for certain effects. In pretty much all the games I have I usually go with the second best in AA and shadow quality. BF3 for example doesn't have a big difference between high shadows and ultra shadows. Now with anything else like shaders, textures and what not, I run that ultra in any game. I run 2 670s so there's really nothing I can't max with a good fps but I like to have as much performance overhead as possible while maintaining a very close ultra look in whatever game I play.
Schweinehund
Member
Just look at this.
This game is a fucking monster. :lol
what the shit. I just bought my HD7950 like two weeks ago and was feeling like a monster.
I'll probably cross fire them in the future.
I have a link for you to look at
http://www.guru3d.com/articles_pages/ultra_high_definition_pc_gaming_benchmark_review_uhd,1.html
Look a few pages in to see the reality of memory usage even at 4k. Remember 4k is more pixels than 2 1600p monitors put together, more than 3 1080p monitors running surround/eyefinity.
Unless you have to run crazy AA shaders(the IQ improvements of which are silly) then you are going to be fine with a 3GB card. The greater determining factor is the realistic ability for the card to process the data it holds in the ram, which is measured by fill rate.
As a person who was a huge fan on CoH1, 2 is just awful for videocard performance. Most of it is because they have a ridiculous AA shader when you use the high quality presets(4x SSAA + FXAA). Turn that shit off, it is raping your gpu.
ab.aeterno
Member
Thought I was done with the Team Red, but this looks tasty. Interesting indeed . . .
Relevant to my feelings as well. Was going to see how nVidia's 8xx series shaped up to see about jumping ship, but this seems pretty good...
Yeah, it's good for competition (will lower the prices most likely) but don't matter for me really, for me now it's just beyond who have the faster card (which is a something that will last for few months anyway), it's more of who can give me the best service and complete package for my PC gaming and need and user friendly experience and I think Nvidia do it better, I also have 3D Vision, a 3D vision ready monitor (ASUS VG278HE) and a Shield for streaming so I'm completely locked to them.
Thats true but i like to play around with mods a lot and sometimes complete retexture mods who can come with very high res textures (2048 . 4096) who put a lot of strain on my current card and makes it RAM starved .
So i want a card on which i can throw as many texture mods on a game like say Skyrim as i like without hitting that memory cap easily .
if this new card is $600 or under, sell your 7950 and upgrade, one card is always better.
Trogdor1123
Member
I hope the whole lineup has great performance, I have 560ti right now and it's getting long in the tooth..
Holy shit!
In that case you might want to hold out to see what the GTX790 has for memory capacity
high end AA shaders are very expensive both in terms of space(memory used) and time(speed of execution or fps) so you might be suited to a higher horsepower solution(built in sli) that can handle processing all those extra algorithms.
Of course I would assume AMD is going to have a new dual die card as well so be on the lookout for head to head benchmarks soon.
If you are looking for a good upgrade on the Nvidia side the GTX760 is 2x the performance of the 560ti. Right now it is a $250 card, might drop a bit after all this passes over.
The 700 series Titan type card is really the Titan. The 780 is basically a Titan with a bit removed. The big deal about the die is that cost grows linearly with die size. AMD will be able to significantly undercut the Titan and still have a ridiculous profit margin. I don't think a dual GPU card is really comparable to these cards. Dual GPU cards have clear tradeoffs that a lot of people don't want to deal with.
Again, though, Titan is based on a relatively mature 28nm process just like this card is. It's not last gen.
@Maneil: The Titan is 384bit. The 7950 is 384 bit. By your logic they should be comparable. Bus size is just one of many factors that influence GPU design.
The Abominable Snowman
Member
Will this be the last GPU card I will ever need? Damn!
They also might be using a lower leakage process by now. These cards are likely on HPM(like the console SoC's) while Gk110 is on the HP process.
The fact that they are so much higher in density(40%) while only moving up 20% in area could also be the beginning of a heat wall phenomenon like Haswell when it comes to overclocking.
Chittagong
Gold Member
I know Teraflops don't mean shit but... How many Teraflops?
Flops cant be directly compared between GPU generations or AMD vs Nvidia...
...but lets say... 6-7? [single precision]
dragonelite
Member
Hahaha, good joke. Five years from now it will pale in comparison to everything current on the market, and on the cycle goes...
legacyzero
Banned
Man, I love my 670.. But when I consider another card, this is pretty tempting. I'm not down for paying more than 5 or 6 hundred for a new card. and Nvidia is pricey as hell.
Vulcano's assistant
Banned
Please be true, I was hopping I could afford an 880 a next year, AMD help me with this.
NeOak
Member
SSAA eats resources for breakfast. D:
thunder_snail
Member
I'm thinking of getting a piggy bank and putting a $20 bill in it each month. Every 2 ~ 2.5 years, I'm gonna drop kick that mofo and buy me a fresh new card.
Unknown One
Member
Why not 30 dollars a month? That's 360 dollars a year vs 240. In two years you can get the top of the line card or close at 720 dollars.
Chittagong
Gold Member
Mmm. I am waiting for a 4x leap in power at minimum from my 7870 before I get a newer/beefier card. My original plan has to be to go up Winter/Spring 2015. Seems still like the right plan then.
To be fair, he says "at least small margins".
Wtf is this logic?
If ops per clk has remained the same as GCN then it'd be 5TFlops SP at 900MHz.
Single GPU solutions always work, that should be everyone's first option.
He looks like Kramer.
Been holding off on upgrading my single 7970 for a while now. Looks like it's getting to be about that time though.. This wouldn't be the first time AMD's trumped Nvidia out of the blue. If it turns out to be nothing impressive then maybe I can at least salvage the situation and pick up a second 7970 on the cheap. I have a feeling my single 7970 isn't going to be able to handle next gen games with full settings at 2560x1440 all that well.
Stability wise they've been pretty bad for a while.
Kane Zakharov
Banned
I think It's a reference to when a certain Nvidia driver caused some GPUs to brick.
LiquidMetal14
hide your water-based mammals
The irony of it all is that ever since I have switched over to nvidia, the driver support has been hit or miss while AMD's have been steadily improving. Not that there are no negatives to both but I think AMD has been making a lot of strides.
nephilimdj
Member
BF4 is what most people are upgrading for, well we all know what happened with BF3 and Nvidia >.>
http://bf3blog.com/2013/08/new-nvidia-driver-fixes-some-battlefield-3-issues/ still fixing the drivers after 2 years
Sectorseven
Member
I thought this new wave of cards was supposed to target mid-range gamers.
$600 doesn't sound like mid-range to me.
$600 doesn't sound like mid-range to me.
AdmiralPain
Banned
There will surely be cheaper cards, this is the flagship.
Crimsonclaw111
Member
Their previous flagships will become their cheaper cards.
He doesn't link the source but my bet is that graph is based on a crazy stupid amount of AA that gives no visual benefit but tanks the framerate.
Edit: Found it, it's the CoH2 review on tech spot. The benchmark doesn't even show what the AA is. It just has the option of low, medium or high AA. lol