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Super "NeoGAF Arcade Stick Thread" II TURBO

Eknots

Member
With the PS360, it's easy to dual mod any stick. Depending on which route you go, it would have been easier if it was an Xbox 360 one.

You will need an Xbox 360 compatible PCB to piggyback the mod. A lot of people use fightpad PCBs or hacked 3rd party controllers to get it to work. Either way, it's possible and the resources are out there if you need to look up how to do it.

Thanks, now that I finally found out it's the HRAP V3-SA it should be a lot easier to find tutorials/info on it.
 

MThanded

I Was There! Official L Receiver 2/12/2016
I have one of these that I haven't touched since Persona 4 Arena came out, but it's the "Round 2" version. It boggles my mind that Amazon gives $137 for the original but says the Round 2 version isn't eligible for trade-in. They're the same god damned stick. Same chassis, same parts, same everything! Just a different faceplate!
Yeah i'm not sure. Maybe they will reject it.

Also I'm worried about them downgrading it. I took pictures of everything in case they try to stiff me down to the 99 dollar price. I keep all my things pristine with original box and everything. Amazon better not play with me.
 

ACH1LL3US

Member
You don't, that's why I said what I did. Sorry if I worded it poorly.

Hey Mark,

Could you share what options you guys will have for different button setups on the new KI stick and maybe a video showing how you replace the top panel on it as it is very different to what we are used to.

Also will there be different art being sold for the panel?
 

The Cowboy

Member
Just got my 1st stick, its only a Mad Catz SF4 SE - but it was £20, boxed and in perfect as new condition. Did a couple of tweaks to it (glued the washer in place and stretched the spring) and am loving it so far, planning to pick up a set of new buttons (and maybe a new joystick at some point) soon.

Really wasn't sure about the square gate as I was having issues with double quarter circle ultra moves - but it just clicked after a bit and all is good with the world.
 

SmokeMaxX

Member
Yeah i'm not sure. Maybe they will reject it.

Also I'm worried about them downgrading it. I took pictures of everything in case they try to stiff me down to the 99 dollar price. I keep all my things pristine with original box and everything. Amazon better not play with me.

Oh man...I'm tempted to trade mine in now...
The thing with Amazon trade ins is that they judge pretty harshly. I got an item marked down $30 because I didn't include the one page manual in the box. Luckily the thing was worth even less than what they gave me. You have to select "return item; don't downgrade conditions" so you don't get screwed. It's very easy to miss that one scratch or not include that one item that will keep your trade in from the top quality condition.
Just got my 1st stick, its only a Mad Catz SF4 SE - but it was £20, boxed and in perfect as new condition. Did a couple of tweaks to it (glued the washer in place and stretched the spring) and am loving it so far, planning to pick up a set of new buttons (and maybe a new joystick at some point) soon.

Really wasn't sure about the square gate as I was having issues with double quarter circle ultra moves - but it just clicked after a bit and all is good with the world.
For most people, square gate > octo gate for pretty much every motion. People (usually) only prefer octo gates when they think they should be riding the gates. Then they realize they shouldn't be riding the gates anyway.
 

Tekniqs

Member
Anyone else have this problem with their stick? When you press the stick in any direction you'll hear a click and another click when that direction is released (obviously)... In this case.. When I hold diagonal down and left if it's in a certain spot where both direction actuators are still pressed, I get these extra inputs... Causing my intended hadokens to become srk. Anyone know how to fix this shit?

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oLcQdFalZYk&feature=youtube_gdata_player
 

system11

Member
New microswitch for left needed, that or a physical defect preventing left from being engaged properly in d/l position, but if it worked fine in the past it's much more likely to be a dirty/worn spot on the switch contact inside. They're generally not possible to dismantle without destroying them, it's better to just get a new one (or four new ones if you're a perfectionist).
 
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The Cowboy

Member
That's nice, I wish I had a job in which I could find nice arcade sticks - when I clear out my closet I find paperclips and rubber bands :D.
 

MarkMan

loves Arcade Sticks
For size comparison/reference:

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The TE2 is 7.80 lbs.

Length is 15.8 inches/40 cm
Width is 10.2 inches / 26.25 cm
Height is 2.5 inches / 6 cm
Height with stick lever 4.75 inches / 11.75 cm
 

T-Matt

Member
Madcatz released some really cool designs this gen. I'll never forget unboxing my TE stick and just how great it looked in person and the presentation in the box made it feel fun to open. Such a great looking stick.
I love my evo stick and the chun stick is hard to beat.

Already looking forward to what other sticks they come out with.
 

MarkMan

loves Arcade Sticks
The Chun-Li stick... Man. That one was something.

I had a dream about it... and wrote it down on a napkin/piece of paper and presented it to my design team. Pitched them on the 3D lenticular artwork and told them about making the box Chun-Li's boobies lol. Good times.
 
i like the original Marvel vs Capcom 3 TE
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been meaning to get one, but It seems more rare than the MvC2 TE's haha..

it's the Shinkirou artwork that makes it classy ;)
(same can be said for the TVC Stick)
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MarkMan

loves Arcade Sticks
i like the original Marvel vs Capcom 3 TE
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been meaning to get one, but It seems more rare than the MvC2 TE's haha..

it's the Shinkirou artwork that makes it classy ;)
(same can be said for the TVC Stick)
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The MVC3 one is more rare than the MVC2 one :)

We got some flack for the MVC3 one when it first launched because we mixed two concept art pieces from different artists. I thought the end result was still quite compelling!

Originally I wanted to launch the MVC3 one with a white bezel, but we didn't have time. :(

Also... when I first got a production version of the TE, this was the first picture I took. As an arcade stick fan, at the time. I was so proud. I called this photo... 'The Three Kings' ...

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T-Matt

Member
The Chun-Li stick... Man. That one was something.

I had a dream about it... and wrote it down on a napkin/piece of paper and presented it to my design team. Pitched them on the 3D lenticular artwork and told them about making the box Chun-Li's boobies lol. Good times.

That's a cool story. It turned out super nice and it is obviously one of the more coveted madcatz sticks. Hope you have some more dreams..
 
For most people, square gate > octo gate for pretty much every motion. People (usually) only prefer octo gates when they think they should be riding the gates. Then they realize they shouldn't be riding the gates anyway.

Can we stop perpetuating the myth that square gate is for everyone and if you don't play on square then you're doing it wrong? It's exactly like a few years ago when people kept trying to push sticks on pad players, telling them they were doing it wrong.

It's just ridiculous at this point. There's circles, octogons, squares and everything in between. Let people do want they want. A guy plays with his friggin mouth, just let it be.

/rant
 

SmokeMaxX

Member
Can we stop perpetuating the myth that square gate is for everyone and if you don't play on square then you're doing it wrong? It's exactly like a few years ago when people kept trying to push sticks on pad players, telling them they were doing it wrong.

It's just ridiculous at this point. There's circles, octogons, squares and everything in between. Let people do want they want. A guy plays with his friggin mouth, just let it be.

/rant

I'm not perpetuating any myth. I said most people and I said usually. If you'd like to prove that most people don't play on/prefer square gates, be my guest. I didn't tell him to get square over octo; I just don't want him to get stuck buying an octo and realizing that it didn't help solve the problems that he was facing. It's a common misconception to believe that it's easier to do qcf motions on an octo gate. I know it because I and many members of my community believed it before we got them. I want to make sure it's clear that it's not true. I'm a big advocate for "play on what you want." However, I'm a bigger advocate for educating newer players on the facts.
 

MarkMan

loves Arcade Sticks
Here are some pics from today...

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The Mad Catz TE2 multi-tool (included) has a flathead/hex that is used for the art mods.
 
If you'd like to prove that most people don't play on/prefer square gates, be my guest. I didn't tell him to get square over octo; I just don't want him to get stuck buying an octo and realizing that it didn't help solve the problems that he was facing. It's a common misconception to believe that it's easier to do qcf motions on an octo gate. I know it because I and many members of my community believed it before we got them. I want to make sure it's clear that it's not true. I'm a big advocate for "play on what you want." However, I'm a bigger advocate for educating newer players on the facts.

You don't actually give me any facts in that post. I don't care about you and your friends beliefs that squares are better than any other shape. So here's a fact to disprove your theory:

Octos do make it easier to do circle motions. You know why? Because I believe it is. You can't disprove that, can you?

Here's some other logic:

If you are to believe that Tekken is the most technically demanding game, which you and your friends should probably believe, then we should look at those who play that game the most proficiently. In South Korea, they use a circular gate. I hope that doesn't upset you.

Would you like some more logic? Before Madcatz threw Japanese sticks everywhere, most Americans played on Happ circular gates. Remaining American arcades with actual cabinets most likely use circular gates.

Square gates are not universally agreed upon as the best gates, regardless of what you and your friends think. I know it because I and many members of my community can actually respect others' preferences. I want to make sure it's clear that squares being the best is not true. I'm a big advocate for "play on what you want." I'm also a huge advocate for educating newer players on the facts

If you want to keep this up, PM me.
 

SmokeMaxX

Member
You don't actually give me any facts in that post. I don't care about you and your friends beliefs that squares are better than any other shape. So here's a fact to disprove your theory:

Octos do make it easier to do circle motions. You know why? Because I believe it is. You can't disprove that, can you?

Here's some other logic:

If you are to believe that Tekken is the most technically demanding game, which you and your friends should probably believe, then we should look at those who play that game the most proficiently. In South Korea, they use a circular gate. I hope that doesn't upset you.

Would you like some more logic? Before Madcatz threw Japanese sticks everywhere, most Americans played on Happ circular gates. Remaining American arcades with actual cabinets most likely use circular gates.

Square gates are not universally agreed upon as the best gates, regardless of what you and your friends think. I know it because I and many members of my community can actually respect others' preferences. I want to make sure it's clear that squares being the best is not true. I'm a big advocate for "play on what you want." I'm also a huge advocate for educating newer players on the facts

If you want to keep this up, PM me.
I don't really care to keep anything up. You're getting worked up over nothing. Go look through my post history on SRK where you'll routinely see that I encourage people to play on pad if they prefer playing on pad, play on stick if they encourage playing on stick, and even playing on octogate if that's for them. You're trying to put words in my mouth about how I'm forcing him to play on square gate. News flash- I'm not. Square gates are the most popular/most used gates (i.e. most people do better on them and most prefer them). That was my argument then and that's my argument now. Any problem with doing double qcf motions is not due to the gate and almost definitely will not be fixed by switching gates. You keep saying how I don't have any facts to support this claim but let's be real. Just look at what stick providers provide. If you're not in Korea, you're going to be hard pressed to find anything stock except a square gate (well, besides like the MK sticks). You can think that's a coincidence if you want to (which you probably do), but I'm inclined to believe that it isn't (it's not). If companies thought they could make more money selling stock octos, they'd be doing that.

In addition, he was talking about doing double QCF motions for street fighter. I don't know why you keep bringing up Tekken and the history of circle gates in American arcades to back up your claims. While I will agree that Tekken is more difficult in general than Street Fighter or Marvel (which still says nothing about technically demanding games like Guilty Gear), it's more because of just frames, movement, and having to learn every character's frame data as well as all your punishes (13 frame, 14 frame, 15 frame, etc.) than anything else. Sure EWGFs and pumping out while standings is harder than mashing DP, but let's not pretend that qcfs and dp motions are the foundation of the game like in Street Fighter. Those motions are used in Tekken, but not as prominently as a game like AE. In any case, the person who asked the question was obviously talking about AE so the use of circle gates in Tekken and old American arcades is definitely not relevant. Oh and before MadCatz threw in square gates in their sticks, just realize that they took their model from Japanese arcades (in addition, this little company called Hori made sticks before them too). It's not called a MadCatz layout, it's called a Vewlix layout (or, sometimes the Namco Noir, depending on which TE you're talking about). It's not like MadCatz invented the wheel by throwing a square gate into a stick with Sanwa buttons.

In any case, again I never said square gates were the best for everybody. And again, I don't care to keep this going contrary to this post's size. Just trying to make sure my position is clear and not being misrepresented like you keep on trying to do.
 
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