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New Xbox One Rumors: PS4 PSN > XBL, snap crashes games, ES RAM life long bottleneck
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"Real recognizes real"
I respect him/her for everything they do for the GAF community and gaming industry.
Could you make your posts less obnoxious please? You act as if you're the ultimate expert on the subject replying full of self-confidence to posts without even explaining why. "your wrong!" is not a legitimate answer.
Who wants to bet this turns out to be nothing more than minor inconveniences that will be quickly fixed via patch? We already know Sony is having some problems and will be adding features after launch, I think this MS stuff will be in the same vein. The truth almost certainly lies between the rumors being absolutely false and the doom and gloom flowing through this thread.
Sorry, I have to call BS here as someone that's worked PR for a Fortune 500 company before -- there is NO way he's posting without the express authorization of the company. It just doesn't happen -- ever. Unless, of course, that person gets fired.
Part of the spin is that he's doing it on his own, because that creates a more empathetic bond. It's one of the first things you do in crisis management -- "Oh, wow, this guy cares enough to come here on his own time to share with us."
No. Sorry. Large companies absolutely are in complete control of the message and talking points that go out. If someone is speaking off the company line, they're shut down right away.
I was referring to a certain group of people shitting on threads.
At this point Microsoft has to deal with what Mattrick and others thought would be a good idea and run with it. Its going to be the inferior platform for multiplatform games which is fine. Microsoft has to fix what they have and make it viable and attractive.
Sony now has the job of capitalizing on this and delivering a great system this generation. They need to stay on top of the OS and network and keep it strong. They have a strong system, now just deliver with a consistent flow of quality titles.
Should be a fun generation.
Sony now has the job of capitalizing on this and delivering a great system this generation. They need to stay on top of the OS and network and keep it strong. They have a strong system, now just deliver with a consistent flow of quality titles.
Should be a fun generation.
Micromegas
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It's true though, I mean, theoretically, they could have this snap-n-crap all patched up like a Microsoft commercial by launch day. You know they are working n it night and day. It seems unlikely, given personal anecdotes and the like, but you never know... He sounds pretty definite, that right now, it's a broken mess.
NoirVisage
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ZeroMaverick
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Damn, this thread exploded fast. I can barely keep up. So what's the consensus here? Xbone is screwed? Ps4 is also screwed? Wii U too? Someone help. I'm starting to cry...
This is a pretty bad analogy though. Microsoft as a company survived, but ME did not succeed. Unless you think 'surviving' equals the Xbone being a commercial failure.
Project Alice
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Hmm...
Oh wait...they have done that before:
LOL fair enough. I meant from the software side though. That would have repercussions across their entire business. They would lose major mindshare across their software division.
ThisWreckage
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They're fully aware that he is was sent here to spin and to prevent damage from spreading due to shitty PR, but they're also in denial about it at the same time.
Not even Microsoft heads can say everything with absolute certainty, as evidenced by the countless 180's and admissions to the contrary.
There is absolutely no way on earth that the number of failures before the jasper model was that low. I think everyone single person on my friends list had theirs break at least once. I genuinely can't think of anyone whose 360 didn't break.
Not only him
LordBaztion
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Borken today, maybe fixed by launch.
It seems broken is not as bad as it sound. Probably is related to not working at its top, probably something around 75% failure rate otherwise won't be able to be fixed within 20 days.
The lack of "probably" on the XBL issue is worrisome.
I demand a "Nov 22 Beta tester achivement"
It seems broken is not as bad as it sound. Probably is related to not working at its top, probably something around 75% failure rate otherwise won't be able to be fixed within 20 days.
The lack of "probably" on the XBL issue is worrisome.
I demand a "Nov 22 Beta tester achivement"
take with a grain of salt, but i just heard, 2nd hand, a quote from our buddy don at zynga i thought i'd share.
"Zynga is in a tough place right now. We need to make some hard decisions if we want to salvage what is left of the company. But let me tell you...no matter how bad it looks for this company right now...it is no where near as bad as the company I just came from."
dunno how accurate it is, or if it was a joke, but lol
"Zynga is in a tough place right now. We need to make some hard decisions if we want to salvage what is left of the company. But let me tell you...no matter how bad it looks for this company right now...it is no where near as bad as the company I just came from."
dunno how accurate it is, or if it was a joke, but lol
Zabant
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Actually they would simply sell off the Microsoft Studios division all together and count their losses, hell, this was on the cards BEFORE this xbone cluster fuck happened.
But this is beyond off topic at this point and has already been discussed to hell and back in the past.
Of course. The thread would keep going anyway. I just meant that we can't come to any conclusion yet. Everything is still up in the air. And that sucks for MS. It's far too late for so many things to be up in the air!
Project Alice
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Looks like Nintendo 3DS is the only safe bet.
Microsoft was able to shook off an absurd hardware failure rate of the Xbox 360 first generation. They'll throw money at the problem to try to get bailed. The critical difference today is that their direct competitor is launching at the same time and with cheaper hardware.
lol its scary people believe this isnt part of his job.
LiquidSolid
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Hey! HEY! I've been saying this for years and years! The recycling of the old guard (Moore, Kim, Allard and Bach) led straight to their focus on Kinect, casual games and killing the majority of their lineup in favour of more Halo, Gears, Forza and Fable. They rode the coat tails of the people that preceded them and now that they have to start from scratch, they're fucked.
I have 100% faith in Microsoft... I feel I am part of the few on this forum.
If they have issues, so what. As long as it doesn't kill my system or cause me having to spend more money.
When I buy an Xbox One, its not just for the moment, its because I buy into the future vision of what Microsoft sees. I am not a "hardcore xbox" guy. I thoroughly enjoy all big three. I have a 3DS xl, PS3 and a PS VITA.
I am not a "bro" "dude" gamer. I enjoy all games.
I mean come on, do you really see Microsoft dropping the ball... to the point where the system is shunned? I do not see that at all.
If they fall behind they will do something about it. They are not stupid. Whether you like to believe it or not. They are huge company, and they are generally great people behind Xbox. Albert and Larry are great members of the Xbox team. That being said, so is Phil Spencer.
I just don't get the hate, because 2 years from now, this all will more than likely be forgotten. Just like so many problems with the launch of the PS3.
I am a pro gamer, fuck wanting these companies to fail. Do you really want to live in a world where Sony is the only force for most games in the industry?
If they have issues, so what. As long as it doesn't kill my system or cause me having to spend more money.
When I buy an Xbox One, its not just for the moment, its because I buy into the future vision of what Microsoft sees. I am not a "hardcore xbox" guy. I thoroughly enjoy all big three. I have a 3DS xl, PS3 and a PS VITA.
I am not a "bro" "dude" gamer. I enjoy all games.
I mean come on, do you really see Microsoft dropping the ball... to the point where the system is shunned? I do not see that at all.
If they fall behind they will do something about it. They are not stupid. Whether you like to believe it or not. They are huge company, and they are generally great people behind Xbox. Albert and Larry are great members of the Xbox team. That being said, so is Phil Spencer.
I just don't get the hate, because 2 years from now, this all will more than likely be forgotten. Just like so many problems with the launch of the PS3.
I am a pro gamer, fuck wanting these companies to fail. Do you really want to live in a world where Sony is the only force for most games in the industry?
It's delusional.
NullPointer
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Its really hard to get a sense of just what is possible to achieve before launch and shortly thereafter. I mean, a LOT can be fixed in a matter of weeks, especially when you're focused on the issue.
But if these problems have been around for a long time now, and are still a problem to this day, how much can we expect to get solved in the near term?
I just meant that Microsoft, as a company, wouldn't be destroyed.
it's probably worse at Zynga
Have you been paying attention at all this year?
VladDracule
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Your still missing the point. the esRAM itself is NOT the bottleneck. the DDR3 Bandwidth is. If they had even used GDDR4 then the esRAM itself may not be present. Just because in its current configuration it is the limitation does not make it the bottleneck. It is a Band Aid that overall improves system performance.
I may not be an insider, but I am an industry export as currently a Software Engineer who has done VLSI design at intel
ZeroMaverick
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Huh? What does the bolded part mean?
Kazuma Kiryu
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Maybe you should look up those sources that you obtained while working on teamxbox to clear these rumors then, since that's the easiest way to stop these threads (and the shitting) from happening.
But let me guess, not even worth the trouble?
lol no. More like: PS4 is fine and XB1 will most likely be fine.
After what MS tried to pull I can see why people faith in them is pretty low.
Its fine that you do of course it is all about the games in the end.
Ploid 3.0
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I came across the perfect post that described this situation, in it the perfect post that may describe CBOAT's position. He is powerless to make changes that would be better for xbox it seem. He's probably watching his baby be sent out defenseless.
Check out the video, if you got time watch it til the end, it's a great movie (was my first time watching, I couldn't peel myself away). Substitute the bradley for "Xbox One gaming console" and watch as it turns into a set top entertainment box that can play games. bit it's gaming capabilities gimped because of the other things added to it.
groovygamer
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When you have to pronounce something you are not (when no one asked) It usually means you are.
What exactly is a Pro Gamer?
Project Alice
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Awesome Achievement.
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Zabant
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Exactly, the only way you can give an honest opinion is if you go anonymous.
Oh jeez, what a coincidence! isn't there an anonymous MS employee in this very thread that is giving us the truth of what is actually going on? something to do with sitting on trains?
It really isn't worth the trouble.
But it's okay if Steam does it? Last time I checked, Steam is an immensely popular platform that requires a periodic online check in and DRM for all its games.
Yeah, but I can buy a game for $3 on Steam ... my games on console are $60. If they want to sell their AAA titles for $20, I'll be down with the DRM.
PS4: Bound to have a few issues at launch, but we've at least seen the UI a few times
Xbone: Screwed at launch, maybe better over time, gimped forever, truthfact
WiiU: It is what it is, a Nintendo player, buy it late and cheap
No need to cry. You're two weeks from what looks like a brilliant console.
Oh my god.
Dude. I can install my entire steam library onto my laptop, set it to offline mode and then never have to ever go online again.
If you can't see the difference between that and the original XBone DRM then you are delusional.
Because that makes it OK? I guess kindergarten taught me wrong.
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