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DF/JF: Battlefield 4 PS4 vs XB1 videos/screens (900p PS4, 720p XB1)
- Thread starter shinobi602
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Quadraphonic
Member
Was my explanation accurate? I mean, I may have messed up some sources, but I think I explained it ok.
Did you watch the videos, or did you just come in here to sound like a fool?
Actually, Killzone runs similarly if not worse in MP. So, yes, they can still tout 60 fps multiplayer, but it is in no way stable. The "24 players dropping grenades" thing is BS.
I actually kind of am a semi-seasoned AV professional and have the gear and 10 years of experience to back that up.
Maninthemirror
Banned
I would like to know in which regard it wins ?
Jawbreaker
Member
First screen of NBA2K14 on Xbox One released?
Lord Error
Insane For Sony
- HBAO is missing from XB1 version, that is 100% true. It doesn't have any kind of SSAO actually.
- I don't think motion blur is missing from XB1 version in MP. I was able to see it when I paused the video at the right moment. It's just that guy who was playing it was making really snappy movements so it was not easy to pause it at the right moment.
- I've seen some shadows flicker on XB1 footage in IGN video where the PS4 half of the screen shadow stayed stable. That happened once or twice when camera looked towards the ground, so could be just random glitch
- Clouds are curiously missing from XB1 footage, could be just randomized weather or something.
MaskOfSkin
Banned
Because I've been reading these threads for a while now, and have not seen the term once, and now it's everywhere. PS4 looks better, but the hearing some of the hyperbole around here, you would think the X1 version is straight up garbage that will kill your puppy on sight.
And yes, I know what crushing the black level means. I do astrophotography for a hobby and we generally refer to it as clipping the black levels, instead of crushing it, lol.
Ah why dont we wait before we make such claims?
Darkwaknight
Banned
Yeah...ok!!
I didn't know what anti-aliasing meant 8 years ago. I sure as hell noticed the jaggies on PS3 vs 360, though.
Yea, I did find that kinda funny.
This is the most sensible thing written in this entire thread.
Xbone version looks fine, 1% will care about the difference and make out it's the most significant moment in gaming history.
Get some sleep people.
TheOctodad
Member
Anyone who actually believed that a casual Walmart customer was going to care about 720p vs. 900p was crazy from the start.
However, the leaks were accurate. The PS4 version does look better. It's just one more negative tick mark on MS. When people hear, "I heard the PS4 games look better and it's $100 cheaper." it will have an effect. That's what I heard most people trying to argue on here. Right now MS is in a "death by a those paper cuts" situation. None of them are that big of a deal really (some more than others). But as they begin to stack, it starts to do damage.
I agree that ShadowFall looks amazing, and of course the PC version shits all over it. Did anyone believe otherwise?
Yum Yum Albert.
he said there was no way they were giving up 30% performance right??...
so does 50%+ resolution count???
Will try out later (for my ps3)
Thanks
edge enhancement is a big one too....fair warning...turning off edge enhancement, and lowering sharpness is going to be an adjustment for you...for awhile youre going to think everything looks too soft because youre used to the sharpness....give your eyes time to adjust to it...youll like the results...
Maninthemirror
Banned
Yeah i think we might have a competition for DF finally
If you like the way Xbox 360 games looked, you'll LOVE the Xbox One, since it runs at the same resolution (720p).
No they were pretty close in comparison, this is probably 10x that difference.
PS3 would lose 30p in resolution here and a few bits of grass there. Xbox looks to be REALLY struggling.
More than anything this points towards what is to come over the next years.
The power advantage is obvious, and it shows in the end product both visually and (for this purpose more importantly) in the numbers.
Way more pixels, anti-aliasing, more and better effects. And still it runs at a significantly higher frame rate.
This talks to the potential of these consoles, more than anything. The visual outcome in this not very impressive cross-gen title is one thing, but the Xbox One has no chance to keep up in the long run as far as I can tell.
The power advantage is obvious, and it shows in the end product both visually and (for this purpose more importantly) in the numbers.
Way more pixels, anti-aliasing, more and better effects. And still it runs at a significantly higher frame rate.
This talks to the potential of these consoles, more than anything. The visual outcome in this not very impressive cross-gen title is one thing, but the Xbox One has no chance to keep up in the long run as far as I can tell.
To be fair it does look like a rushed capture at a review 'event'.
Unknown One
Member
The PC version and the PS4 is not far off for typical 1080p rigs. PS4 looks slightly inferior to my PC.
Maninthemirror
Banned
When there is no difference to the casual gamer they look at the price. Guess who wins there
Pseudo judo
Member
I was a video editor and graphics designer for ten years, that being said a simple google search and an IQ above a field mouse and you can probably get a great understanding of the concept in 20 seconds.
EmptySpace
Banned
can't judge everything from a youtube video. compression, bitrate loss, etc. a lot is lost in translation. classic example is the order 1886 video. the direct-feed 900+ mb looked so much better than any 1080p hd video on youtube. not even close.
Salvor.Hardin
Banned
Wow. So uh, why does the Xbox One version look sharper?
Better lighting and AA on PS4 though.
Better lighting and AA on PS4 though.
Clockwork
Member
I brought up the cloud issue on Beyond3d and two posters pointed out some interesting things:
http://beyond3d.com/showpost.php?p=1799566&postcount=4645
http://beyond3d.com/showpost.php?p=1799567&postcount=4646
So are the clouds missing on XBOX One and PC, or are some things being rendered in the incorrect order/inverted on PS4?
http://beyond3d.com/showpost.php?p=1799566&postcount=4645
http://beyond3d.com/showpost.php?p=1799567&postcount=4646
So are the clouds missing on XBOX One and PC, or are some things being rendered in the incorrect order/inverted on PS4?
Worked out real well for Sony last generation.
Will they? That's what Microsoft is banking on but they've really pushed their luck this time.
You said you don't know how GG does it. But, yes, you had already answered your own question.
Maninthemirror
Banned
Like they did with xbox 360 when ps3 came out despite ps2 being the most popular console in the generation before it ?
2073600
1440000
921600
roughly as many pixels between a native 1920x1080 PC version and the PS4 version as there are between the PS4 and the XBone version. bear in mind the PC number is perfectly achievable with a sub-$200 GPU, and a lot of people are going to have to have a long hard think about their priorities.
MutonCommander
Banned
Yeah, the visuals are quite poor when you compare to PC but they are still much better than current gen so for many people it will be good enough.
CaptainTiptop
Member
I doubt the majority of 360 owners owned the original Xbox.
SRTtoZ
Member
I laughed more than I should have.
Its Bobby Darin
Banned
I'm not paying a 100usd more to get the same game that I could have had on ps4. I'm actually paying a 100 bucks more, because I'm confident in kinect ( Yes, I said it). I believe people actually are underestimating the kinect and it's just matter of a few years before we actually get a ground breaking thing with it, but don't ask me what, I'm no dev.
I'm not paying, I'm investing, I believe I will get a better experience with the xbone and if that not the case, then I'll buy a ps4 later on and play gret exclusives on there too.
wait so only Xbox One version will have different embargo from the rest (including PS4)?
Like they did with the PS3->PS3 or Wii->Wii U?
You are wrong
Fair enough, its your money. But dont start "comparing" the versions when you have already before and after, decided which console to get. There are differences in quality, differences in price that matter to a ton of people. Enjoy your Xbox
Same here. With Leadbetter and now this botched video comparison, I will always take those DF face off with a big grain of salt.
I mean look at the difference
Alright here we go.
Here is the Jack upload vs. the DF upload screens
Top is the DF video, you can see the crushed blacks
Bottom is the Jack upload, same scene you can see the difference in the wheel black
DF did it on purpose from what I see
Thanks man.
Does anyone know if JPGs are able to express the full RBG range? ie, if I had a better monitor would I see what the screenshot looked like on a full range screen?
and most know both. don't forget that the majority of gamers, even casuals have had a ps2. just because they have a 360 now doesn't mean they will just go with the one. it didn't work for sony on the ps3 either.