Arrogant Bastard
Banned
As expected, a pre-release issue due to updates. Thanks.
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COD Ghosts Xbox One offline (2 weeks before launch) not possible without Live?
- Thread starter GribbleGrunger
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As expected, a pre-release issue due to updates. Thanks.
Thanks for the response, Albert! It sounds exactly like what some of us predicted earlier in the thread. Hope we can get a definitive confirmation in the morning.
FaintColt388301
Member
Hence the quotes. DetectiveGAF came out and somehow found out about all of the dude's shenanigans. It was quite hilarious. But that's a different story
SRTtoZ
Member
Ok so pre-release builds ban you from playing SP. Ok, got it, thanks Albert.
The stuff in the OP can mean a million things- but its still based on one (seemingly unreliable) man's tweet.
Sites can run with it, but I don't see the big, reputable ones doing it.
That's about what I expected. Thanks for taking the time. So the fact his console is bricked isn't due to the ban, but a patch-in-progress. One would hope that the OS would only be in polish stage 2 weeks before launch, but w/e if all's well on day one who cares.
GribbleGrunger
Dreams in Digital
Just hold one second ... just one second:
Then why do you need the patch in the first place. Wasn't the reason for the patch to remove DRM. Isn't that what MS told us? If it's not to remove DRM and only to update the OS, were they going to let us continue to believe it was to remove DRM as first stated? Mmmmm ...
Then why do you need the patch in the first place. Wasn't the reason for the patch to remove DRM. Isn't that what MS told us? If it's not to remove DRM and only to update the OS, were they going to let us continue to believe it was to remove DRM as first stated? Mmmmm ...
Where did they say it was to remove DRM? Link?
^Asking seriously, not in an accusing way btw.
Brain of J
Banned
But, but, but CBOAT said Imagn...lol. I'm shocked that this non-story turns out to be a non-story.
Whitten originally made the comment when the patch news first broke that the patch was required now to play offline and remove the DRM stuff. Later, Microsoft "clarified" that to say that the patch was always planned and is not because of DRM removal.
Chobel
Member
Can he get the latest patch so everything can be fixed? I'm expecting he's not banned from downloading patches.
iamshadowlark
Banned
So why did SP work before the guy got banned? Even with an "old build"? there's a answer you're not exactly giving us.
Kinda wish he posted this two hours ago, I was mostly just idling till he posted with an "any minute now" mentality.
From Kotaku 6/19/13
UPDATE: Microsoft clarifies that the planned day-one Xbox One update, which Whitten told me, will "complete some of the software that wont be there," is actually not a result of today's DRM policy change. Rather, it was always planned and will simply be required for playing off-line, among other things. Not a patch, they say. But, yes, your new Xbox console would have to connect online once in order to do the things Microsoft described today. And then you can keep it offline and play games without re-connecting to the Internet forever.P
http://kotaku.com/xbox-one-drm-reversal-cuts-features-requires-one-time-514419715
UPDATE: Microsoft clarifies that the planned day-one Xbox One update, which Whitten told me, will "complete some of the software that wont be there," is actually not a result of today's DRM policy change. Rather, it was always planned and will simply be required for playing off-line, among other things. Not a patch, they say. But, yes, your new Xbox console would have to connect online once in order to do the things Microsoft described today. And then you can keep it offline and play games without re-connecting to the Internet forever.P
http://kotaku.com/xbox-one-drm-reversal-cuts-features-requires-one-time-514419715
Even though the Day One patch was announced to remove the DRM.
So you need the patch to play offline.
I'm not sure MS directly said reversing the DRM was part of the Day One Update. People just kind of assumed that based on some choice quotes and no one ever cared to confirm or deny.
Also, why would it matter? Console doesn't work without the update, so really all that matters is the post update experience. DetectiveGAF needs a breather.
FaintColt388301
Member
My question is if this is a pre-release type of thing as Albert says then what are reviewers and the press doing. They've been playing games. I have no idea how that works. Anybody here aware of why they seem to be able to do stuff but this guy can't?
Thanks Albert for staying up and replying. I like seeing him active with us and trying to prevent GAF explosions
Thanks Albert for staying up and replying. I like seeing him active with us and trying to prevent GAF explosions
SRTtoZ
Member
I'd like to know this. It doesn't really make sense if there is no DRM on the system and MS didnt 'ban' him from playing SP.
Actually, I don't think MS ever said that the patch is to remove DRM. Here's the quote from their reversal:
This could be interpreted two ways:
1) The one-time set-up is required to remove DRM
2) The one-time setup is required because the OS would be incomplete otherwise, so internet will be required on day one at least, even though we have already reversed the DRM requirements
Many of us, including myself, assumed it's (1), but over time it became clear that it was (2). As stated above my comment, MS clarified it themselves.
WordsintheWater
Member
This stuff is just getting even more confusing, I don't even know whats going on anymore.
Maninthemirror
Banned
Thanks for the Info. So how was he able to play Single Player after the ban yesterday and not being able to play Single Player today. Bug?
From the looks of it, itsfuckingnothing.gif.
Yes, this has been without question the most confusing launch of consoles I've ever experienced. I am sure tomorrow we will learn that there are giraffes living in these systems or some shit.
Maninthemirror said:
That's what Albert is trying to find out right now! Give him time!
As much as I'd like to know this, I'm not sure he knows the exact details just yet considering he was trying to contact people and didn't finish.
opticalmace
Member
Then why did cboat stir the pot? There's something up, but it's hard to know what's really going on... maybe we'll know in a couple weeks.
Pop
Member
Foxy Fox 39
Banned
hmm?
Pop
Member
Yeah and that's terrible.
I just want to know... after he was contacted and given a Release Event invite or whatever, was their no stipulation to not leak stuff?
I like leaks, but, Albert trying to get a hold of someone at 2am EST on a Sunday night because of the dude must be annoying. Then probably dealing with PR tomorrow..
I like leaks, but, Albert trying to get a hold of someone at 2am EST on a Sunday night because of the dude must be annoying. Then probably dealing with PR tomorrow..
SRTtoZ
Member
Thats weird. "No its not a DRM removal patch, but you need it to play games offline".
You heard it here first folks, Microsoft's 24h DRM was never DRM, they always wanted to patch it out.
It's just a giant misunderstanding.
CBOAT could have been talking about the lingering issue of games still potentially having DRM, which is a valid concern. May have nothing to do with COD. I might be wrong, but it's the only explanation that makes sense, given what Albert said. Or Albert is just blatantly lying, which I'd rather not assume without damning evidence.
iamshadowlark
Banned
bigboss370
Member
makes it sound like DRM was built in and the patch removes it. Otherwise why would you require the patch for playing offline? why does the offline functionality only appear after you do the one time connection/patch download?
anyways, that isn't even my big concern...I more interested in the fact that the buyer can't access his own system's settings.
Why would it need to be in the cards though? Why wasn't the system designed to play games offline to begin with, and then add support for online?
Chobel
Member
But why?
GribbleGrunger
Dreams in Digital
But having to always be online was part of the DRM policy, so having to patch it to play offline HAS to be something to do with DRM. Why manufacture a console without DRM and then have to patch it so it doesn't behave as if it HAD DRM. It doesn't make sense at all. Playing offline should be no problem at all if what Penello said is perfectly honest.
Foxy Fox 39
Banned
maybe im dense but if you have an update that needs to be downloaded via the internet to play games offline how can it always be in the cards? At some point they had to say, wait, people need to be able to play offline, lets patch this bit of code here....
A patch is only needed when you've made some sort of oversight in the original development of your code.
You really thought they shipped the software with all the drm stuff? No. They had plenty of time to take that stuff out. They require a day one update so that they can have the extra development time to work on a shippable OS.
Arrogant Bastard
Banned
So basically we are mad that Microsoft did not bake in the DRM reversal/play offline patch into the system from an earlier date?
Still trying to figure out the controversy here.
Still trying to figure out the controversy here.
Neuromancer
Member
And yet, the patch is required to play games offline.
Because they are manufacturing boxes months in advance of essential OS functions being completed. It's not that difficult to comprehend, really. You're not downloading a "patch" on Day 1. You're downloading a completed OS.
I'm a little confused here. I thought the reason it was required to play games offline was because you literally cannot use the system at all without the update putting the launch OS in its final form in place. Naturally, if the system did have a proper OS in place, it would not play games, offline or otherwise. So that could also be the case?
I am close to giving up trying to follow this confusing madness.
Neuromancer
Member
That doesn't make any sense, within the context of MS's original vision of the Xbox One.