Vicetrailia
Member
I knew GT would get trashed. Fixing the sound and standard cars won't do anything, they'd have to totally reform the career mode and up the ante on damage to get any respect.
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Gran Turismo 6 Review Thread
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All other games have to do is stay the same
Jim Sterling
Member
We have to TRY, damn it all!
As bad as the DS3 is for a game like this, you can still get a good feel for the handling model and physics with it. Anybody experienced with these sorts of games will typically know what to pick up on and where you can put something down to a controller drawback or something with the game, even if they can overlap at times.
And really, when the game is going to be played with a controller by the vast majority of people, its not unfair to judge it by using one. A lot of people forget that games like GT and Forza, while definitely leaning towards the sim side of things, are still meant to be sold in large numbers and to people other than hardcore racing fans.
As always, if you're one of these hardcore racing fans, you probably shouldn't be paying too much attention to the reviews anyway, as they likely aren't going to be reviewed by like-minded people. They will have a different set of standards and expectations than you do.
Vicetrailia
Member
Well GT is GT, it's been around for a long time. They are leaders and so they gotta lead on every front I guess. Oh well, i'm gonna play this game to hell and back.
driving cars around track is boring, GT1 did it long time ago, nothing new here.
Hahaha I like you. Real life better step up it's game
Too bad they have not improved the rest of the package for years.
The Venture Beat review seemed useful to me, in that it basically said "if you had these problems with the series before, no, they did not disappear with this installment!" so it seems like a perfectly valid review to cover that base. And as much as I'd like to get into GT someday, that IS kind of my feeling too.
Though some of those other review quotes are, uhh, interesting. Archaic gameplay sounds like an odd negative for what's supposed to be a racing simulator.
gundamkyoukai
Member
True , then again reviews are becoming more and more useless .
Wonder what going to happen current gen when people just look at streams to see what they want to buy .
transformer
Member
From the reviews I have read, the main issues are the AI and sound are pretty much the same as GT5 (not good at all), and inconsistencies in assets (car/track modeling) are still an issue, albeit improved over GT5. I personally think they should have eliminated the standard/semi-preimium cars and just got as many premium as possible. They probably could have gotten 600+ cars which would have been plenty. Then focus the rest of the resources on audio and AI.
OldAsUrSock
Banned
Venture does not know who this game is marketed to.
CyclopsRock
Member
Surely their opinions of driving are entirely relevant to all the millions of consumers who don't use a wheel either? Where did you get that 5% number from, anyway?
Reviews are only ever useless when they're saying bad things about something you like or are interested in, apparently.
I'm sure if GT was scoring 9's all round, you guys would be all, "Hell yea, GT6 is amazing, see! Forza who? lololol!"
And streams are never going to replace reviews. It will be a useful asset, but there's so much that isn't going to be gotten across just by watching somebody play. Particularly in a game like Gran Turismo.
valentine71
Banned
Polygon review... I am shocked.
Fortinbras
Member
Playstationfront.de gave 74%
gundamkyoukai
Member
Not really i already knew this GT was going to score low for a GT game .
It has the same problems that hurt GT5 for reviewers PS2 assets , sound etc etc and PS3 hardware can't improve on certain aspects .
No matter how much new content was added or certain things fix the old content and certain problems was always going to hurt the game.
Not to mention a whole bunch of stuff has to be patch in .
I already consider review unless for certain games already for eg fighting games , yearly games .
I would also like to know what about GT or any game really what i won't be able to tell from streams compare to reviews ?
Uhm it's marketed at the mass market, at people that like to look at cars, etc. It wouldn't sell in the millions if it was truly only built for Sim enthusiasts. From that standpoint the venture beat review is ok, the problem is that the industry uses metacritic.....
Mobile Suit Gooch
Grundle: The Awakening
I went to metacritic and read some of the user reviews. I regretted that decision.
PsihoPerihelion
Member
I was expecting low scores compared to other GT games, but not this low. Does the game still uses PS2 assets like 5?
BradleyLove
Member
Sarcasm?
Fortinbras
Member
Yes, The cars look better but still not good. The result is an annoying visual inconsistency. I really hope Polyphony changes their priorities and gets rid of these assets for GT7.
Unparalleled_Mediocrity
Neo Member
Never read metacritic user reviews, possibly worse than YouTube comments
Vicetrailia
Member
This isn't a problem for me because it flat out means less cars. Like I don't get my beloved Tommy Kaira ZZII less cars.
But hey I'm a GT fan and like their kool-aid. Approaching from another angle I can see why standards are a problem, people just don't want to drive them like I don't wanna drive any classic cars in the beginners series events.
BradleyLove
Member
I don't get the issue with standards. They might look nowhere as good, but they're still using the current physics model, ergo they drive just as good.
My favourite car in GT5 is the Team Oreca Viper, and it's a standard.
Game length, progression, economy, difficulty, feel, bugs, etc.
Obviously you can watch for hours and hours to get a better idea of *some* of these things, but a review that encapsulates the entirety of the experience is still going to be useful. They will both be useful in their own ways.
jakonovski
Member
I kind of like the audio in GT games, makes me all nostalgic. But it is kind of dated and it's no wonder many people don't like it. Just as long as they never do the "hollywood mix" of racing sounds, where every car has supercharger whine and there's always something rattling around the cockpit.
GTP_Daverytimes
Member
Racing sims continue to be a genre reviewed by people who know nothing about it, GT6 is in every way a better game and sim than 5.
Windom Earle
Member
Very true, I would not trust "gaemz journalists" opinions on physics, tyre model, etc.
However, hearing that there are still problems with old car models, engine sounds and microtransactions on top? ... I think I don't have to play another GT on PS3.
crazygambit
Member
Other outlets should take notice. If the online portion of a game isn't available, you have to wait until it is to publish your review. We'd avoid stupidity like Polygon downgrading BF4.
gundamkyoukai
Member
Some of the stuff you mention there i could always find out by asking the streamer .
Take BF4 for eg full of bugs and reviews did not even seem to care .
Most of the time they can't even play games to a certain level , truth is i always had problems with how reviews are done in gaming .
sublimit
Banned
This review is like me trying to playing and review a FPS (a genre that i don't really like and therefore i suck playing it) and trying to give an objective "noob's" point of view.But that would be pointless because if you don't like the genre then why would you care to pick the game in the first place?
you're my fave car game reviewer.
phosphor112
Banned
Some shining reviews, but damn, do some people hate this game or what?
H3avyM3tal
Banned
^Its hard to tell reviews from blogs and essays now...
What?
djplaeskool
Member
Seems that little was done to try to bring non-racing or non-GT fans into the fold...
however based on the reviews I've scanned so far, there's little complaint about the meat and potatoes. I love GT, so getting GT6 is a no-brainer, and these reviews appear to confirm that.
however based on the reviews I've scanned so far, there's little complaint about the meat and potatoes. I love GT, so getting GT6 is a no-brainer, and these reviews appear to confirm that.
Because it logically makes you think wtf, when reading the text?
If a reviewer played Gran Turismo like Mario Kart and then complains that they keep spinning out, can't fire green shells etc etc, how is that useful to anyone?
Personally all i came into these reviews was to check Eurogamer's verdict on microtransactions, because it was a genuine concern of mine on how it would affect the game.
phosphor112
Banned
First of all, the guy knows nothing about cars or racing games and he's complaining
Secondly
Polyphonic?
Polyphonic!?
Who the FUCK is Polyphonic?
If you don't even know WHO made the game how can you possibly do a professional review and not be laughed at?
symmetrical
Member
You guys should watch Daniel bloodworths thoughts on gametrailers. Pretty good assessment on the game even though he hasn't put up his final review yet.
Either way though, definitely going to pick up this game.
Either way though, definitely going to pick up this game.
Not every review needs to be the opinion of an expert; if someone not well versed in car games had a bad time with it, well, thats still a valid opinion to me, which is all reviews are. A broad spectrum of reviews and reviewers is good.