Spiritreaver
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Final Fantasy VI iOS/Android screenshots [Up: Larger]
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Man, I don't care what people posted in a thread from when I was in high school. The SNES style looked great. The PSP style looks great. The Phone style looks bad. Even playing Dimensions, where I have no prior image to shadow my opinion, it looks bad. The sprites in that game have this awkward pose while standing still that makes their arms jut out way behind them.
Some thread from 07 does not change how ugly this game looks.
Some thread from 07 does not change how ugly this game looks.
Man if only it looked like FFVII SNES
Holy fucking shit this is gorgeous. Holy shit! There's seriously no more info on this?
phone exclusive
$20
pay $1 for a Crystal Timer item that eliminates battle transition load times for 1 hour
also vivi is replaced by lightning
hitsugi
Member
Nope. Sadly, it's just a concept.. as much as I'd love to see more get done with FF6, at the same time, the less they touch those characters THESE DAYS, the better.
Imagine Wagons
Member
How do you guys like touch controls for these games? I find them unusable for me. Carrying a bulky controller beats the purpose of "mobile" gaming. If I don't do that I might as well fire up the old SNES.
Ever since this thread I've been simultaneously playing the GBA and PSOne on the Vita versions. From that one shot it reminds me of the PSOne version with bilinear filtering turned on. The time-to-wait before and after battles is atrocious.
The colors definitely seem washed out on the GBA version. I thought it was due to me playing it on a Game Boy Micro but I tried it on a DS Lite and it was washed out there too.
I really wish it worked on the Vita but those load times are the worst.
Ever since this thread I've been simultaneously playing the GBA and PSOne on the Vita versions. From that one shot it reminds me of the PSOne version with bilinear filtering turned on. The time-to-wait before and after battles is atrocious.
The colors definitely seem washed out on the GBA version. I thought it was due to me playing it on a Game Boy Micro but I tried it on a DS Lite and it was washed out there too.
I really wish it worked on the Vita but those load times are the worst.
MagnaderAlpha
Member
Agree. Besides, I wasn't on these boards back then, so I sure hell wasn't one of those who hated the PSP style. I think the PSP style looks to be the perfect evolution of the classic sprite form, via stretched proportion and detailing.
Hell, either that, or a closer artistic styling to this:
I would not settle for anything lesser that either those two. I do feel FFV and this, from what the PSP gave us, IS a step back. Though, then again, Square's been doing that a lot in the recent times.
If the people working on VI are the same as V (which most likely is the case), Kazuko Shibuya, the artist behind that rendition of Terra (and other characters in FFIV-VI) is the art director and sprite artist behind this.Agree. Besides, I wasn't on these boards back then, so I sure hell wasn't one of those who hated the PSP style. I think the PSP style looks to be the perfect evolution of the classic sprite form, via stretched proportion and detailing.
Hell, either that, or a closer artistic styling to this:
I would not settle for anything lesser that either those two. I do feel FFV and this, from what the PSP gave us, IS a step back. Though, then again, Square's been doing that a lot in the recent times.
dream
Member
Admittedly, I'm pretty accustomed to using touch controls at this point. But I didn't have a problem with Chrono Trigger or FFV. I even did the ship part of the latter without any problems.
As I mentioned earlier, though, if the Mana series is anything to go by, its that the guy who makes something awesome early in his career is perfectly capable of making shit later in his career. Mana's drastic drop in art designs was one of the many reasons I stopped buying and playing those games.
What guy? Mana games have had a bunch of different artists work in them.
mattiewheels
And then the LORD David Bowie saith to his Son, Jonny Depp: 'Go, and spread my image amongst the cosmos. For every living thing is in anguish and only the LIGHT shall give them reprieve.'
I can't wait to buy this and constantly post screenshots to make people barf.
One thing I didn't like about V iOS was the diagonals, it made input a chore sometimes, I suppose they'll leave them in VI though.
One thing I didn't like about V iOS was the diagonals, it made input a chore sometimes, I suppose they'll leave them in VI though.
Spiritreaver
Member
I know this isn't the place to really ask, but if there's anything I'd want SE to bring over to mobile it's the Tactics Ogre series (or more SRPGs in general). Think it could happen?
Now that they're done porting/remaking the classic FF games they'll probably tackle their other properties next, so it is possible. Or maybe they'll port over FF spinoffs. Or both.
Impeccable
Member
Argh, I have no problem with the art style but a huge problem with the fact they won't slap some achievements on these and throw them up on the console stores. My money would be freely theirs, I just do not have a need for these games on mobile.
And this is my favourite game of all time.
And this is my favourite game of all time.
hitsugi
Member
Exactly - not every pixel is square.
Neither NTSC-, nor PAL-standards have square pixels,
nor do all the internal formats of the SNES or many other devices.
The output of an SNES is always meant to be displayed at 4:3
(or around 16:10 if no adjustments are made for PAL-versions, but even that is boxed in a 4:3 image)
MagnaderAlpha
Member
Nomura was behind that rendition of Terra. Shibuya simply just did the sprites(Nomura was responsible for taking Amano's art and SD-ifying it).
And, don't forget, a lot of the people behind the original FFVI aren't even with Square anymore. Even regarding the original's four art directors, Tetsuya Takahashi... gone(founded Monolith Soft), Hideo Minaba.... gone(is rarely contracted by Square Enix nowadays). Other than Shibuya, Nomura's still there, but I doubt he'll have any big role in the art direction(he seems too busy to give any concern to a mobile game considering he's tackling two big console games).
Nomura was behind that rendition of Terra. Shibuya simply just did the sprites(Nomura was responsible for taking Amano's art and SD-ifying it).
And, don't forget, a lot of the people behind the original FFVI aren't even with Square anymore. Even regarding the original's four art directors, Tetsuya Takahashi... gone(founded Monolith Soft), Hideo Minaba.... gone(is rarely contracted by Square Enix nowadays). Other than Shibuya, Nomura's still there, but I doubt he'll have any big role in the art direction(he seems too busy to give any concern to a mobile game considering he's tackling two big console games).
The FF Wiki credits Shibuya for those pieces, as well as the ones done in a similar fashion for FFI-II, IV and V. And I was talking about the iOS version of V, not the original one:
hitsugi
Member
Holy crap that image is even worse than the others I've seen of FFV for iOS..
In that particular scene the sprites are super zoomed up but normally they aren't.
MagnaderAlpha
Member
FF Wiki states it's Nomura's art(it's even listed as Nomura's art in the address).
There's also the art of Darill(clearly Nomura's art):
Meccanical
Member
No one wants to be a nerd.
Why buy yet another handheld when the game is available on my phone which is always on me.
If you want to buy me my next handheld, I'll let you choose which platform FF7 will get remade for...
probably will be for smartphone no matter how much GAF kicks and screams
FF Wiki states it's Nomura's art(it's even listed as Nomura's art in the address).
There's also the art of Darill(clearly Nomura's art):
http://finalfantasy.wikia.com/wiki/Category:Kazuko_Shibuya_Final_Fantasy_VI_Artwork_Images Conflicting information!
Valkyria
Banned
Are you 15?
MagnaderAlpha
Member
Maybe Shibuya just provided the coloring, but the art(sketch design) themselves is clearly Nomura(it's his style). Of course, the Darill art also has Nomura's signature in the bottom.
everybody wanna be a nerd nobody wanna be a nerd
chaostrophy
Member
What's extra frustrating is that All the Bravest actually has good pixel art. It's so bizarre that SE has good sprite artists still, but they're putting their efforts into the shitty cash-grabs instead of the remakes of their classic titles.
Hell, either that, or a closer artistic styling to this:
Actually, the new sprites seem much closer to that artwork than the old ones.
There's also the art of Darill(clearly Nomura's art):
Should've kept/made her recruitable and ditched Umaro. But heroes just HAVE to have their tragic backstories. Never mind that Setzer's just seemed like a retread of Locke's.
MagnaderAlpha
Member
They still got Shibuya's flat faces(Nomura's have some facial form, as their eyesocket area is more in and their forehead and mouth/nose area are more out). We'll have to see how their full bodies match up. If they are more lanky and detailed are still rather stout.
encephalon
Member
The FF wiki should not be taken as a reliable source of FF information anyways.
That makes it sound like it's a PSX or N64 game, not SNES like people have been saying.
BocoDragon
or, How I Learned to Stop Worrying and Realize This Assgrab is Delicious
It was a mockup for a 32-bit game. The poster who called it SNES was incorrect.
Honestly, what it reminds me most of is DQ7, just a little nicer looking.
BocoDragon
or, How I Learned to Stop Worrying and Realize This Assgrab is Delicious
That looks all sprite to me.
I don't think they really considered all-polygonal FF at the time. Too big of a paradigm shift. It wasn't until XI that they really gave up camera control to the user.
The image above has sprites on a polygonal environment. It says so underneath the image.
akidnamededdy
Banned
Why would you buy something you dislike? Let alone on day 1 instead of waiting for a sale or something? They're not going to take note that you bought it begrudgingly or whatever.
BocoDragon
or, How I Learned to Stop Worrying and Realize This Assgrab is Delicious
I guess it was Xenogears like then...
Actually, wasn't there some tidbit of info that Xenogears was borne out of the FFVII project in some way? Perhaps a clue in that screenshot? Then again, so many Square projects have their secret origin in VII that I've lost track (Parasite Eve, The Spirits Within, etc).
Edit: now that I parse the sentence with my shit Japanese... Whaddya know. The Locke-looking guy is Locke.
No, I will say that when their material is sourced right, i.e. ultimanias, they do a good job.
But there's a lot of fan-created / misremembered stuff that slips by.
hitsugi
Member
could be waiting a long while for it to hit a reasonable price given that it's SE..
MagiusNecros
Gilgamesh Fan Annoyance
Man if only it looked like FFVII SNES
That is beta Xenogears before things were changed when it was deemed too dark to be a FF game.
dark_chris
Gold Member
I dunno why but I like the improvement.
Can't wait!
Can't wait!
HolyBaikal
Banned
I find them very easy and approachable for RPGs. I've played Tales of Phantasia and Tales of the Abyss a lot recently. Tales of the Abyss via Splashtop. On a 10 inch tablet.
Platform games are much harder. I struggled, but I managed to beat Mega Man 1 with touch controls. It was very hard, and I would much prefer a controller, touch controls are a handicap for classic action games. But I was surprised that I was actually able to defeat the yellow devil with on screen touch controls.
Japanese RPGs are much more forgiving, and I feel one of the 'classic console' genres most suited to it. I haven't had any significant problems with any Japanese RPGs. Though action RPGs are something which proves more difficult.
While I understand the frustration with mobile games. Being often poor quality, exploitative, or would be much better on other systems. I think that people often take it too far. Having a game you love on a mobile device is not a degrading thing. And I appreciate being able to buy and play such games on Android devices without emulators.