Can't speak for the last two but XII came out 7 years ago, started development in 2001 under Sakaguchi Squaresoft supervision and was headlined by two of their very best developers for 50% of its development.
It ain't representative of modern FF.
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Final Fantasy X -Will- and FFX-2.5 plot discussion thread [Up2: Uh, um, errr, see OP]
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It ain't representative of modern FF.
Sub_Level
wants to fuck an Asian grill.
And Agito never reached the West, so that can't really be counted as a positive either. Good to see that ARR seems to be pretty good for it's genre though.
cj_iwakura
Member
Well, it sounds like a good hook. And Yuna being herself again is a sagely move.
Sad about the relationship, but hey, they're young. People change.
Sad about the relationship, but hey, they're young. People change.
GayForMaster
Banned
lol Audio drama? what the fuck?
Zoe
Member
It's a common thing in Japan.
clay_ghost
Member
To recycle assets of course.
Sub_Level
wants to fuck an Asian grill.
I don't think that's the aspect of this whole thing people are all in a hubbub about.
Many animes and videogames have audio dramas, among other accompaniments like side novels.
DiipuSurotu
Banned
Is this a transcription of the audio drama?
AuthenticM
Member
Oh, Thanks. I thought the zoom was done after the capture, but no. The guy knew what he wanted.
I know, right? This is what X-2 excelled in. It respected its predecessor by being relatively mild plot-wise. With the sound of this, they are trying to be even more over the top than the original game, which is pretty ridiculous and unintelligent. That's the problem with many sequels, whose teams used the wrong tools (canonical importance, retcons, demoting previous events) to top the previous games.
It's actually a novel (242 pages) that's on sale right now: http://www.amazon.co.jp/dp/4757541570/
Product description says:
It's a few months after the events of 10-2. Yuna and Tidus have been enjoying life together, but one day they were boat-wrecked during a storm and drifted to an unknown island. There, Yuna confronts the truth of the island.
...Well, I guess that island is the reason for Yuna's shut-in at Besaid. It seems to be an actual story, possibly bridging the gap between the end of 10-2 and the audio drama, I'm not too sure on the timeline.
The sequel to FFX-2 would be a prequel to FF7....
Oh god. I'm not sure if this would be amazing or horrible.
That's a wrong assumption, they really are cheaper to make by a whole magnitude order. X-2 only had a precious few new models and for the XIII series, their lack of planning left them with tons of unused assets they could just pop back into sequels.
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Deleted member 20920
Unconfirmed Member
Yeah exactly, it isn't going to be for mobile.
I can never tell if people are joking or if they seriously think every new SE release is going to be mobile.
What if it leads to the FFVII remake at the end of the game with a cliff hanger/epilogue
DiipuSurotu
Banned
The audio drama, which is actually titled Final Fantasy X -Will-, is set one year after FFX-2, so I think the timeline is:
FFX > Eternal Calm (FMV) > FFX-2 > Last Mission > FFX-2.5 (novel) > FFX -Will- (audio drama)
Someone needs to change the topic title as it appears X-2.5 is not the audio drama.
3 stars on amazon? We should have expected this lol
Based on google doing a butchered translation job on the reader reviews, the book itself seems really weird.
The top-ranked review was a bit weird itself, which is why I didn't translate details from the reviews. The reviewer says there's sexual content of some sort in the novel and that's where his review got a little awkward.
The only major detail I got from skimming the reviews is that the readers feel quite sorry for Tidus after the novel. It seems the 'star-crossed lovers' part of the relationship will continue to play out in any following works.
The only major detail I got from skimming the reviews is that the readers feel quite sorry for Tidus after the novel. It seems the 'star-crossed lovers' part of the relationship will continue to play out in any following works.
Dark_castle
Junior Member
I take it weird in a negative way, judging by the scores and all.
That's okay, I'm ready to pretend the new contents don't exist in my life.
That's okay, I'm ready to pretend the new contents don't exist in my life.
Shouldn't the topic title be changed? I mean, it's a summary of the "Special Credits" audio drama included in the game, not of Final Fantasy X-2.5 (a novel released on the same day, set
)... Different plots.
), and I think that's also where they're headed for this hypothetical "Final Fantasy X-3", based on the audio drama and Yuna's reaction at the Moonflow...
condition).
Final Fantasy X
-> Final Fantasy X The Eternal Calm
-> Final Fantasy X-2 up to the good ending
-> Final Fantasy X-2.5 The Eternal Price
-> the 100% ending of Final Fantasy X-2
-> the Special Credits audio drama (that's the one summarized in the OP, with Chuami and Kurgum)
-> Final Fantasy X-3?
I'm not sure where Final Fantasy X-2 Last Mission is supposed to fit exactly... It's supposedly set three months after Final Fantasy X-2, but is that before or after Final Fantasy X-2.5 The Eternal Price? Before or after the 100% ending of Final Fantasy X-2? It should all be roughly around the same time, but the tone is significantly darker in the novel, so it's hard to reconcile...
sometime between Tidus reappearing at Besaid and the 100% ending scene at Zanarkand
One year after Final Fantasy X-2.
That one is set three months after Final Fantasy X-2.
The Japanese for "Fayth" is "Inorigo". Here, they're talking about "Genkô", as in "Genkôchû" / "Pyreflies".
That is actually addressed in the novel (
where Tidus dies a gruesome death shortly after his return and Yuna basically ends up resurrecting him
Mostly because Chuami hates Yevoners like Yuna (she blames them for her mother's death). She probably doesn't think praying does anything (but of course, Yuna would have her own reasons...).
I could be wrong, of course, but I doubt Sin's return will be the focus. I'm thinking it will be more about why Sin and all those dead people are back (and presumably how that relates to Tidus's current
zombie
I'd say:
Final Fantasy X
-> Final Fantasy X The Eternal Calm
-> Final Fantasy X-2 up to the good ending
-> Final Fantasy X-2.5 The Eternal Price
-> the 100% ending of Final Fantasy X-2
-> the Special Credits audio drama (that's the one summarized in the OP, with Chuami and Kurgum)
-> Final Fantasy X-3?
I'm not sure where Final Fantasy X-2 Last Mission is supposed to fit exactly... It's supposedly set three months after Final Fantasy X-2, but is that before or after Final Fantasy X-2.5 The Eternal Price? Before or after the 100% ending of Final Fantasy X-2? It should all be roughly around the same time, but the tone is significantly darker in the novel, so it's hard to reconcile...
Zoe
Member
Da fuq? Okay, they cannot leave that unresolved.
What was the 100% ending? I didn't know there was anything significantly after the other events.
WTF this is just ridiculous. so you're telling
Tidus died at the end of X came back in X-2 ending where he was reunited with Yuna at the beach only to die again and be somehow resurrected again?!?!
Something like that.
I seem to remember they (Nojima?) didn't really want to resurrect him to begin with, so they're probably toying with the idea that "things aren't that simple" and his current situation is unnatural (hence Yuna's reaction at the Moonflow, in the audio drama?).
I seem to remember they (Nojima?) didn't really want to resurrect him to begin with, so they're probably toying with the idea that "things aren't that simple" and his current situation is unnatural (hence Yuna's reaction at the Moonflow, in the audio drama?).
This one is my bad, I wasn't familiar with the Japanese terminology and I also accidentally treated fayth and pyreflies as the same thing because of my foggy 10 memories.
Is there something in the novel that suggests the 100% ending takes place after it? I thought the 100% ending took place before the novel and therefore Last Mission can also grab a spot between the 100% ending and the novel, where it seems like shit hits the fan.
Episodic mobile game coming right up.
Muffin Awesome
Member
Man... I have a Vita and was looking forward to these games again, but man this convoluted mess of a plot is really making me think otherwise. Might just wait till they drop in price. Phew I never realized they went on and toyed with these plots this much.
I don't have the book yet, so I'm going from various reports at the moment. I'm under the impression that scene at Zanarkand is referenced (at the end of the novel?), but it's not like I can actually confirm that myself.
That's also how I'd deal with all that... except the events of the novel seem to occur very shortly after the good ending at Besaid (as in, in the following days... (*)). So shit hits the fan very early on, and that makes things a bit awkward for Last Mission...
* Come to think of it, maybe that's the reason Japanese readers place the novel before the 100% ending? If it all happens immediately after the good ending, logically...
Dark_castle
Junior Member
So...two paths to take:
1) Play X (and X-2, preferably not), and then stop. Enjoy the story with happy ending that doesn't make you feel bad.
2) Play X, X-2, Audio remaster and X-2.5. Experience some fucked up shit and feel bad for Tidus. Does Square Enix has the balls to do NTR stuff?
1) Play X (and X-2, preferably not), and then stop. Enjoy the story with happy ending that doesn't make you feel bad.
2) Play X, X-2, Audio remaster and X-2.5. Experience some fucked up shit and feel bad for Tidus. Does Square Enix has the balls to do NTR stuff?
Final Fantasy X-2.5 is a novel. You're probably thinking of the audio drama that can be heard during the special credits (the one discussed in the OP), which is something else entirely.
Jimmyfenix
Member
Hurry up march! i want to confuse my self even more with the English version.
We all know Square is going to put Lightning in a FFX-3 if they every make one and make her a "Pseudo God" For all Final Fantasy games.
We all know Square is going to put Lightning in a FFX-3 if they every make one and make her a "Pseudo God" For all Final Fantasy games.
I know i am joking but this might be the truth sadly.
Dark_castle
Junior Member
Yeah, I meant drama, not remaster.
Anyway isn't the edited title still wrong? OP stated the content of audio drama, not X-2.5 novel.
I prefer 3) Play X and X-2 to the "normal" ending and don't even leave room for this fucked-up sounding stuff. I thought that ending was better anyway.
Relaxed Muscle
Member
I'm so confused, is this really real? I can't get my head around it, after the events of X and X-2, we are meant to accept that Yuna and Tidus just broke up? There must be a better reason than the Twilight drama in the summary. I hope so, if not then I will pretend that this does not exist. What next, Final Fantasy VIII-2, Squall and Rinoa have split, even though Squall is her Knight and literally went to the moon and back for her? Just no.
Obviously.
DiipuSurotu
Banned
Incredible. Square Enix, in 2013, is pulling a Chrono Cross on us. This is simply incredible.
Also, in the original draft for FFX Tidus was meant to be an Unsent rather than a dream of the Fayth, but the release of the film "The Sixth Sense" that had the same plot twist prompted Square to change their ideas. Tidus was rewritten as a dream and they gave the Unsent plot twist to Auron instead.
There's nothing that indicates that they really break up.