Seems fare. I didn't really doubt that I'd enjoy ELEX, but if it's better than Risen games then I should have a blast.
P.S. I'd trust German reviews more than others'.
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2 months out, any excitement for Piranha Bytes' Elex?
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Seems fare. I didn't really doubt that I'd enjoy ELEX, but if it's better than Risen games then I should have a blast.
P.S. I'd trust German reviews more than others'.
texhnolyze
Banned
Interesting. I enjoyed Risen 3 even though I didn't finish it.
If this is indeed a much better than that, I'd be down.
Dr. Kitty Muffins
Member
I'm definitely interested, but I'm waiting on reviews. I'll buy at 60 bucks provided it's a solid 8.
MosquitoSmasher
Member
Doesn't seem to me that the score is all that high, actually pretty on point probably if the game world is indeed that great to explore, which it sure looks like in footage to me and quests are apparently very fun with multiple choices. Always a plus. Plus it seems it doesn't look and perform horrible on Xbox One, wile Risen 1 was horrible on 360 and Risen 2 i guess slightly better. Never played 3 on 360.
But then you got janky animations and combat that has barely changed over the previous PB games and pretty damn bad facial animations and that's enough to not bring it towards 90 or higher. But i can definitely see plenty of reviews next week scoring it 70 or lower because they just can't accept that the mechanics have barely changed and i can absolutely understand that too. But for me personally...i can cope with the jank when i get a great game world to explore, combat that for me doesn't look like the worst, interesting quests with several things to choose and it actually looking decent on console too.
PS4 Pro footage:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EH2FoVTn_1U
But then you got janky animations and combat that has barely changed over the previous PB games and pretty damn bad facial animations and that's enough to not bring it towards 90 or higher. But i can definitely see plenty of reviews next week scoring it 70 or lower because they just can't accept that the mechanics have barely changed and i can absolutely understand that too. But for me personally...i can cope with the jank when i get a great game world to explore, combat that for me doesn't look like the worst, interesting quests with several things to choose and it actually looking decent on console too.
PS4 Pro footage:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EH2FoVTn_1U
To Quote the review, they say if you get past the First 3-4 hours and get used to the animation/combat youll experience one of the best RPGs of the last years simply because the rest is THAT good.
idk, the general jank is pretty annoying to me. I've only played about 3h so far and had to reload a previous save three times because I got stuck in the world geometry (rocks/behind/inbetween houses). Maybe I'm just abusing the jetpack functionality too much lol
The world and setting is indeed very intriguing.
The guy even looks like in Risen...lol,this is basically Risen 4 with a mix of futuristic and old stuff...just watchng the guy play makes me want to grab this but it will have to wait...and dude(guy playing) if you dont do what the tutorial says,it will show up for a long time lol...
jryeje29
Member
Ill personally look out for reviews but I dont have enough interest for a day one purchase. Unless it turns out to be extremely bad or be like unplayable then its safe bet Ill get it eventually. I enjoyed technomancer and bound by flame which both werent anywhere close to the best rpgs so Id probably like this too.
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Deleted member 471617
Unconfirmed Member
For those interested, ACG (Karak) said that he will have his Elex review up on Monday.
Humdinger
Member
Excellent. I'll wait for that.
The German Gamepro comment about "best RPG world since Morrowind" is too good to be true. That is, I don't believe it -- I don't trust that particular review site, and it's too hyperbolic to be accurate. Yet, it piques my interest, because Morrowind is my favorite RPG.
I'm interested to hear what Karak says.
MosquitoSmasher
Member
That sounds really good to me. Usually i get used to the combat pretty early on, so that should be no problem.
How are the loading times on console? Also i noticed that the sensitivity of aiming is way too fast and it can't be changed? That would really suck. But remains me of Risen on 360, lol.
Sounds like there is still quite a bit of work left for the developer. Unlocked framerate is rarely a good idea. Probably gonna be a while before they get to X support. We don't even know yet if it has Pro support right now, do we?
Hell yes. I'm waiting for that for sure.
Oh I wouldn't know, sorry. Playing on PC. They are completely negligible, I just booted it up and it took 8 seconds to load the last save. Reloading an earlier save when you've been playing already is a little shorter even.
And yeah, the cam is waaaaay to fast by default - and that's 0.5 lmao. First thing I turned down. Feels good at 0.2. It can be adjusted for controller on PC (I'm using one).
Sentenza
Member
While I'm more or less a fan myself, German press has always been a bit too forgiving with PB (while american/english one typically way too harsh).
Apart from that, I wouldn't trust the opinion of anyone who thinks Morrowind was a peak so far, anyway.
MosquitoSmasher
Member
Karak's review should be a good enough way to see if the game is worth it on day one. I always appreciate his reviews.
I'd be more concerned with people that think Oblivion ans Skyrim were better RPGs than MW.
I fully expect this to be in line with their games. It will be fun but full of PB jank.
Audioboxer
Member
Yas!
Terrible generic visuals, iffy framerate, 3 gens ago textures, dodgy voice acting, atrocious combat animations/feel and plenty of jank. I cannot wait.
Humdinger
Member
You should probably mistrust mine, then. I'm a console-only guy, but I can't think of an RPG released on console, since Morrowind, that had a more interesting world to explore.
Yes. Me, too. He seems fair and thorough.
Re no tearing on this video, its on PS4 Pro and runs at an uncapped frame rate. 9 minutes in they point out the frame rate is terrible, 20 to 60 which is what I see. Around 2 hours in they have a section that runs ~20fps for some time, around some buildings. They actually stop to point out how bad it is.
Not a deal breaker but, uhm, I wouldnt celebrate lack of tearing. Also, the Xbox One version doesnt yet have a patch and it launches Tuesday.
ThirstiestGamer 2.0
Member
Also spent about 3 hours with it so far on ps4 pro. A review in progress will go live on Monday.
Allegedly a 50 hour game according to guide, and they only gave us reviewers the code on Thursday evening.
Allegedly a 50 hour game according to guide, and they only gave us reviewers the code on Thursday evening.
MosquitoSmasher
Member
That doesn't sound great for Pro yet. Let's hope this isn't the support they had planned because that framerate sounds just bad. Keep it 30fps locked if it can't be 60fps, which I think we all isn't going to happen with either console version.
I'm also an avid pc gamer with the opinion that there hasn't been one released on it either. Even Gothic's wonderfully handcrafted world has to bow to Morrowind's.
Morrowind's world and art design was interesting as hell but I always preferred the gameplay of Oblivion and Skyrim (even if the locations were more generic fantasy), especially the latter.
Also the dialog system in Skyrim. Felt more like you were having actual conversations than just throwing random topics at everybody and hoping they say something new.
Also the dialog system in Skyrim. Felt more like you were having actual conversations than just throwing random topics at everybody and hoping they say something new.
Streamers got their copies already, looks great (early spoilers, obviously):
PC:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TP-iS9TVVzA
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZUipbvH4Mvo
PS4 Pro:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EH2FoVTn_1U
Edit: Last one at least mentioned already, looks like!
PC:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TP-iS9TVVzA
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZUipbvH4Mvo
PS4 Pro:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EH2FoVTn_1U
Edit: Last one at least mentioned already, looks like!
Sentenza
Member
Eventually.
I would agree that the scenario was an outstanding part of the game, with an intriguing alien vibe for a fantasy title...
I just don't think it's enough to make it a good game.
midasmulligan
Member
Watched some playing, looks janky as hell with an inconsistent frame rate and terrible VA
TardisLover
Neo Member
Look its made by a team of around 30 guys, its a huge open world RPG at a decent price,
It will provide 100+ hours of RPG exploration fun
I respect your opinion, but if we only accept AAA open world games from Bethesda, Bioware, and CDprojectRed then we get 1 game every 3 years.
Its not going to be perfect, but leave the nitpicking to one side, again how many large open world Western RPG get released ?
Lets enjoy it (Jank and all), super hyped for Tuesday, loved Gothic and Risen (just as much as Witcher, Mass Effect, Dragonage, and the Elder Scrolls \o/ all great games)
Have fun everyone, as always just my 2 pennies worth
If this turns out like the other PB games I've played, best way I can explain why people are still interested in it is basically Witcher 1 if you're familiar with that.
Game looked, played and sounded terrible but its a better experience than the sum of it's parts.
Its probably not going to be GOTY material but still a solid RPG.
Is the OT thread planned til Monday?
I spent a few hours looking into some of the early Let's play videos, and have a couple of doubts, that would like to solve before trying the game myself.
1) Do we have the list of
that we can acquire through the game? One player literally fell over one by accident (the one that
during the intro). Also got the feeling that
. And I guess both
as well?
2) Is there a way to obtain magic attacks without joining a faction? It seems you can fight with melee and ranged weapons just fine (as long as you meet the attribute requirements).
I spent a few hours looking into some of the early Let's play videos, and have a couple of doubts, that would like to solve before trying the game myself.
1) Do we have the list of
companions
steals our equipment
a girl called "Nasty" -- apparently the sister from the Outlaw faction's leader-- might be another.
Duras (the 1st guy you meet), and your robot
2) Is there a way to obtain magic attacks without joining a faction? It seems you can fight with melee and ranged weapons just fine (as long as you meet the attribute requirements).
So it reminds me a lot of Morrowind to be honest, the whole world is open from the very beginning, it has factions, stealing etc, and quests and companions aren't marked - you just walk up to people and talk to them, it doesn't have markers above their heads.
To me it's the kind of game you should go in knowing nothing and explore.
Soulblighter31
Banned
tactical facepalm
I agree with the sentiment (Morrowind is in my top list, after all). So, I'm not interested on the details. Just roughly how many they are. Because contrary to back then, now I don't have nearly as much time to play, and I'm the kind of person that tend to wander around too much, soaking on the details and ambience, looking for hidden areas, etc.
The 2nd question is particularly important, because I likely won't be joining any faction until I have visited all of them (and dissidents). So would prefer not to waste too much points on melee, as magic will be my priority.
I loved it but the game was undeniably rough.
Shame PiranhaBytes haven't quite evolved over the years and had success like CD Projekt has. Small team but you can feel their potential still in there to make something amazing again.
Stiler
Member
Looking forward to this game, but South Park: TFBW and AC: Origins will probably keep me busy til I get this after those.
I hope this game is more like Gothic 2 and less like Risen 3.
Also sci-fi mixed with middle ages is really really hard to get right, hope they can pull it off.
I hope this game is more like Gothic 2 and less like Risen 3.
Also sci-fi mixed with middle ages is really really hard to get right, hope they can pull it off.
theDeeDubs
Member
Would probably get this day 1 as I often love janky RPGs. I'm just coming off lttp on The Tehcnomancer, and I really enjoyed it. However, I'm playing through Dragon's Dogma again because of the remaster, and I'm afraid it will hinder my enjoyment of this Will probably wait for a price drop unless I hear the combat holds up decently. I'm just afraid coming from DD to this will seem jarring and ruin it more than coming off a non-action-rpg would. Following Dragon's Dogma would be like following Souls. It's just kind of unfair. Looking forward to more impressions though as I like what I'm hearing so far.
Soulblighter31
Banned
You can forget reviews exist as this game is concerned. Journos had a hard time getting Gothic 1 and 2 almost two decades ago, they stand no chance today. Honestly, reading rpgcodex after the game releases would probably be the best bet to learn in depth about the game. Also, watch this
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GH1pe24yQqg&t=1m35s
and then this to learn how they (used to) make games
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kSc-WRl-0pM
Moff
Member
The OT goes up on monday, according to GAF law.
As far as I know you need to join a faction to learn magic. However there will be scrolls. I guess this will be solved similar to risen 3.
I'm looking forward to it. Ordered PC version for just $34(Thanks GMG!) so if it turns out to be another Risen 2 I can't feel too bad. I loved the Gothic series and Risen 1 and 3 so I'll give them the chance with this one.
Still working through Divinity OS2 though, which is fine because no doubt Elex will need a post-launch patch anyway.
Still working through Divinity OS2 though, which is fine because no doubt Elex will need a post-launch patch anyway.
loganclaws
Plane Escape Torment
Having watched some twitch streams the game is looking good, potentially as good as Risen 1.
MosquitoSmasher
Member
Technomancer, here here!
Took a little to get going but it's quite interesting now and the combat is really fun. I'm actually quite look forward to Spider's next game next year.
I'll be playing a lot of RPGs for the rest of the year. Technomancer, I'll be going for a proper Witcher 3 playthrough when that One X patch arrives, AC Origins has RPG stuff now. I have Shiness as well and maybe, just maybe I won't be able to resist buying ELEX.
Oh man that would have been great if PB just like CDPR evolved that drastically. From Witcher to Witcher 2 was already a huge huge improvement.
PB is damn good in several key things in a RPG, sadly not combat, animations and facial expressions. If they for example would have drastically improved on those aspects I definitely think we could be placing them next to CDPR. Because as that one video showed, several things in PB's game worlds are better executed than what CDPR did.
I'm playing on XB1. Only about 1 hour in, but enjoying it so far. There is some pop-in and the lip-sync is pretty bad - but the environments shine. Gorgeous world so far.
One minor complaint: you cannot pick up loot unless you holster your weapon. Not that big of a deal, just kind of annoying.
I'm a sucker for post-apocalyptic worlds and this one is definitely interesting me so far. Can't wait to dig in more.
One minor complaint: you cannot pick up loot unless you holster your weapon. Not that big of a deal, just kind of annoying.
I'm a sucker for post-apocalyptic worlds and this one is definitely interesting me so far. Can't wait to dig in more.
MosquitoSmasher
Member
Sounds good. I have three questions.
Is the combat timed based or can you just mash away?
If you had to guess, 900p or 1080p?
Are the quests indeed fun with multiple choices?
Thanks for the info! Where did you get your copy early?
Any idea how it's running on Xbox One? Bad tearing? Framerate? I'm really torn between the pc and console version - I'd rather play on console but PC is less likely to perform badly.
On XB1 the framerate is 30. I'm not sure what the resolution is, guessing 1080. But it will be getting an 4k patch for X.
For combat, you can just mash away but you do have a stamina bar. You will get tired and wait a couple seconds for it to recharge.
Definitely has the "eurojank" but I love it lol.
For combat, you can just mash away but you do have a stamina bar. You will get tired and wait a couple seconds for it to recharge.
Definitely has the "eurojank" but I love it lol.
MosquitoSmasher
Member
Good to hear, sounds quite positive really.
I do wonder why the videos on Xbox itself have that bad screentearing. Maybe it's only in certain places. The patch isn't out yet is it?
cleveridea
Member
Anyone know the download size on PC? cdkeys hasnt release key yet (not sure if game allows pre-download)
You can tear at 30fps, basically if you cant match that and vsync isnt enabled. Its good the XB1 version has a limit, they left PS4 unlocked and, uhm, it cant keep up.
Re screen tearing though, I ton of 360 titles did it - eg Skyrim - and frankly I didnt even notice back then. Considering this has 30 devs, its going to have technical issues competing with much bigger budget titles; it cant.
Edit: DL size is around 30gb.
EdwardTivrusky
Member
Thanks for the videos soulblighter, i'm already in but seeing Risen 3 made me realise that i miss it... lots. Can't wait for Elex now and yes my expectations are tempered by experience but i've always found enjoyment in these games so i know it's a game for me