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Young people are such a disappointment when it comes to voting. They were able to come out in droves for Obama, but God help us if you want them to give a shit about midterms and other local elections.
I don't care how you feel about Clinton. Why would you want to risk Trump destroying what Obama worked 8 years for?
If "racist" means holding white people to task for building their entire civilization around racial oppression, I am the most racist motherfucker alive.
These are probably people who have the luxury not to care either way.
It means judging people by the color of their skin, and yes I agree you probably are.
Ahh to be racist. What does the color of his skin have to do with anything?
WhateverItTakes, that's a much more nuanced point and I appreciate you elaborating. That said I just don't appreciate immediately labelling (anonymous online posters) as a particular race due to their political opinions. It feels like a sweeping generalization to me. Cheers.
These are probably people who have the luxury not to care either way.
You have to remember the fact that she is a woman in authority which will immediately remind 19-year-old boys of their mom
Elizabeth Warren doesn't have this problem
I think it's a combination of young people apathy & uninspiring candidates.
Obama is a once in a generation type politician.
Warren hasn't had 30 years of dumb attacks launched at her.
Warren hasn't had 30 years of dumb attacks launched at her.
Right. But the point is that it's not because young men are afraid of powerful women in leadership positions, but it's young people (girls and boys) that just aren't connecting with Hillary due to a variety of things. One of those things is that she lacks the charisma to entice younger folks. She's no Bill and definitely no Obama nor even a Sanders who has that angry, fiery demeanor to him nor does she have the folksy progressive charm of Warren. And she's definitely not a living meme like Biden. And when it comes to the issues themselves she's also more strict on drugs, free education, and has a more aggressive foreign policy. All of those things aren't going to make the young folks very enthusiastic. They'll commit eventually, but the contrast between Hillary and Sanders, Warren, etc. is a bit more deep than just the fact that she's an old woman.
Clinton was fairly popular before she attempted to run for President. So it isn't that people do not connect with her, or that she doesn't excite people. She clearly does and has and the most defining reason why people are less enthusiastic about her now rests almost entirely with Republicans.Right. But the point is that it's not because young men are afraid of powerful women in leadership positions, but it's young people (girls and boys) that just aren't connecting with Hillary due to a variety of things. One of those things is that she lacks the charisma to entice younger folks. She's no Bill and definitely no Obama nor even a Sanders who has that angry, fiery demeanor to him nor does she have the folksy progressive charm of Warren. And she's definitely not a living meme like Biden. And when it comes to the issues themselves she's also more strict on drugs, free education, and has a more aggressive foreign policy. All of those things aren't going to make the young folks very enthusiastic. They'll commit eventually, but the contrast between Hillary and Sanders, Warren, etc. is a bit more deep than just the fact that she's an old woman.
Didn't the kids try to shout her down during her DNC speech?Elizabeth Warren doesn't have this problem
Sure did. What were they chanting again, "we believed in you" and "traitor"?Didn't the kids try to shout her down during her DNC speech?
To be fair Warren hasn't voted consistently in favor of war for 30 straight years like Hillary managed to do in 12 years of being a Senator.
Hillary was a senator for 8 years ffs. If you are going to propogate this utter nonsense at least get your dates right.
This platform is what you're voting for when you vote for Hillary. I honestly have no idea how any liberal youth can read through that and go, "Nope, I don't want that because Hillary shouldn't be in office."
They want also an economical change, and not a worsening of education, healthcare and economics of poor people in general.
The Medicaid Expansion being optional is the most obvious thing I can think of. To my knowledge Sanders wasn't really all that enthusiastic about immigration reform, so something like DAPA probably wasn't on the minds of Sanders voters at all, but if they're all mad about Citizens United that's another obvious consequence of not caring about SCOTUS.
Warren hasn't had 30 years of dumb attacks launched at her.
Elizabeth Warren doesn't have this problem
Yep I and most of the people in my circle of friends are voting Johnson. We're all 19-24.
Yep I and most of the people in my circle of friends are voting Johnson. We're all 19-24.
Sure, we could say we prefer Warren, but many of us only became aware of Warren as adults, while Clinton has been in the limelight for a good chunk of if not all of our lives. There's a developmental correlation that influences men's opinions.
Clinton was fairly popular before she attempted to run for President. So it isn't that people do not connect with her, or that she doesn't excite people. She clearly does and has and the most defining reason why people are less enthusiastic about her now rests almost entirely with Republicans.
And further, I think it's important to note that she mainly failed to capture the vote of the white youth. It's a distinction that deserves repeating.
Didn't the kids try to shout her down during her DNC speech?
Give 'em time:
even if this particular study's data handling was stupid
I'm 98% in agreement with Jill Stein so as long as Hillary has a commanding lead in my state I'll vote for her. If the election is somehow close, I'll vote for Hillary.
You believe wifi is damaging our brains and that vaccines cause cancer?
and nuclear power plants are bombs
Warren hasn't had 30 years of dumb attacks launched at her.
Obama did screw up Iraq pretty badlyWe can, really. How am I wrong? Right now we have friendly relations with most European countries, as well as key countries that we've not had friendly ties with in decades, such as Iran and Cuba. As well as continued indirect support to key middle eastern battling ISIS cells. Again, how am I wrong? Be specific. Because if you think foreign relations are 'horrible' now, then you clearly have no idea what foreign relations were like pre-Obama in the US.
...What? Half of this sentence completely contradicts the other half.
While first lady, Hillary was the least liked of the last four....and by quite a margin. You can't just "make" people like you, and then blame her current numbers on "dumb attacks".
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You know why right?
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She was the first to want to really be politically active, she wanted to champion healthcare reform...
She was also actively targeted by Rush Limbaugh during the height of his power and influence.....
You know why right?
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She was the first to want to really be politically active, she wanted to champion healthcare reform...
She said she didn't want to stay home and make cookies and she instantly became public enemy #1 for the 90's "family values" people.
Obama did screw up Iraq pretty badly
Also in relation to that he took way too long to take action on IS