I have seen all Best Drama nominees except Downtown Abbey and still think that show should win. Dropping some kind of conspiracy that everyone is for BB just for the lulz doesn't help anyone.
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66th Primetime Emmy Nominations Announcement
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McConaughey got this.
i have no answer for that
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Just because you say it doesn't mean it's true. I thought it was a perfectly executed final season with a flawless series finale that did exactly what it wanted to do from the beginning.
Well second half surely deserves more than first half (which didn't deserve to win). It's just boring to see nominated and winning always the same few shows.
Couldn't agree more...I don't know how he wouldn't win...
LaunchpadMcQ
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Aβydoς;120387382 said:
House of Cards is probably the worse one in that category, along with Downton. At least Downton just had a poor season; HoC is just overrated and mediocre.
And the reason why you get the category mix-up is because networks juke it by submitting shows to categories they think the series has a higher chance of winning in, i.e. Orange in the comedy category when the drama category is loaded already. True Detective was actually the reverse in that HBO wanted to challenge Breaking Bad.
SilentSoldier
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The fact that Big Bang Theory continues to be nominated is a travesty of the highest order.
Also, I was hoping Bellamy Young would get nominated for best supporting actress in drama for Mellie.
Also, I was hoping Bellamy Young would get nominated for best supporting actress in drama for Mellie.
JinjoUnchained
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I'd agree if this we were talking about the drama categories, but this is comedy. Depth and range don't necessarily matter for a great comedic performance. Jason Alexander, David Hyde Pierce, and Will Arnett are just three examples of so-called "one note" actors that deserved recognition for their comedic work.
My point is that Parks and Recreation is commonly regarded as one of the best sitcoms on TV and has only once been nominated for best comedy. Amy Poehler gets nominated each year, but never wins for some reason. And Offerman never even gets nominated. Something doesn't add up here. In the last few years, Parks and Rec has been passed up in favor of decent, but highly inferior shows like Glee, The Big Bang Theory, and Girls. Offerman can't get a nomination, yet for some reason they nominate the whole damn cast of Modern Family every time.
It seems like there is some sort of agenda here. Perhaps someone doesn't like the idea of a satirical show about local government, even though P&R is equal parts mocking and loving. It shows a wide range of civil servants, from incompetent to highly effective. So why all of the snubs every year?
Umh why overrated? Everybody hates it.
I don't watch Downton Abbey but my wife does and she said the last season was easily the worst it's ever been. I've never seen an episode of House of Lies or Nurse Jackie either but the Emmys seem to rubberstamp nominations for Cheadle and Falco every year. Jeff Daniels is another one that seems to get a free pass. I would've liked to have seen Aden Young or Emmy Rossum get some noms just to shake things up this year.
Yes, did you actually watch TD? Because I could say the same exact thing about it having too much hype and being inconsistent. A lot of the episodes on the show were just forgettable. The show marketed itself as being something different, but the show was a standard serial killer show with no real surprises. I'm not saying that's a bad thing, because it's not, but it was not always perfectly executed. The cinematography, tone, and acting were all superb, but that does not change the fact that the character of Rust would become annoying to listen to with his many hammy lines of dialogue. I'm not saying the show was bad, because it wasn't, but it didn't really deliver what it could of. With that said, I'm still really looking forward to next season.
LaunchpadMcQ
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Aβydoς;120389647 said:
/r/television would disagree with that. It's pretty much a circlejerk for the same handful of shows: House of Cards, Breaking Bad, True Detective, Game of Thrones, etc.
Macmanus
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He won a bug fat check signed by Micky Mouse.
Adam Driver is dope.
In a dozen sentences and a thousand commas, your only critique of True Detective is that Rust would be annoying to hang out with? You can't call TD a standard serial killer drama when the focus isn't on serial killing or the serial killers. The focus wasn't even on solving the case.
Well they're all pretty great shows (sans GoT), there's worse.
I agree that there are superior shows though, but not that many. HoC is extremely enjoyable, it's GoT but much better than GoT.
Ohoh I just remembered another show the Emmy hate because Emmy gotta Emmy: Boardwalk Empire. Season 4 was absolutely outstanding. Lol.
I watched every episode of GOT, True Detective, House Of Cards, and Breaking Bad (I don't watch Mad Men or Downton Abbey). For me, Rian Johnson, Michelle Maxwell MacLaren, and Vince Gilligan delivered the best material of 2013. Breaking Bad S5B was my favorite season of Breaking Bad, and one of my favorite seasons of any TV show to date.
CharminUltra
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Idk about Downtown Abbey, but you should give Mad Men a try. It's excellent and probably one of the deepest shows ever. The quality did drop a little two seasons ago, but I think the first half of Season 7 was brilliant.
I love character focused stories too, but it just wasn't always done well. Great acting does not always break characters free from the standard cliches that they are. The movie Memories of Murder is a much better example of a serial killer story focused on the detectives.
LaunchpadMcQ
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I disagree about the drop. I think those were some fantastic episodes in seasons 5 and 6, and both of these seasons represent different things for each of the characters' developments. There's no reason to not enjoy these seasons if you enjoyed the first four; nothing earth-shattering happens, but as always, everything with Mad Men is in the subtext and these two seasons remain as brilliant as the first in moving these characters forward.
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To be honest I had to wait till 1x05 before it got me hooked.
As far as I can remember S1 was mostly loved by everyone, while S2 was the opposite. I have no idea why since they're basically the same thing. Probably it's because people realized only in S2 that it's not a political show, again, it's GoT in a realistic environment with absolutely unrealistic storylines and a couple of over-the-top characters. That's why it's awesome.
Also Underwood is the most interesting lead of the year with Rust Cohle and Don Draper (he's always a God among characters).
SCULLIBUNDO
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No they didn't.
Lack of Hannibal is pretty silly, but it wouldn't win anything anyway. House of Cards S2 was pretty trash compared to Hannibal.
Other than that the nominations seem OK. It's very strange to me that Fargo is in the miniseries category while True Detective isn't.
Interested to see who wins lead in a drama. I'd imagine it'd be Cranston but you never know.
Other than that the nominations seem OK. It's very strange to me that Fargo is in the miniseries category while True Detective isn't.
Interested to see who wins lead in a drama. I'd imagine it'd be Cranston but you never know.
Just seeing S4 right now, H. Macy and Rossum are absolutely great.
Also, it's basically the only Showtime show that reached four years without turning to total shit, that's very impressive.
I don't care what anyone says, I think Jessica Lange is fantastic even if AHS is cool to hate. I actually didn't like Coven but I'm really looking forward to seeing JL in Freak Show. If Ryan Murphy can tighten up S4 a bit, I think it could have some potential.and the goddess
also, totally forgot to watch The Normal Heart
Well Lange was great yes, even if Coven turned to shit pretty fast. The whole cast was pretty good to be honest, like the direction. The problem was merely of screenplay, the story was just badly written.
Macmanus
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Your opinions are welcome, but you're not really offering up any actual critique - just making matter of fact claims. Also the fact that you seem to still think TD was about a "serial killer story" makes me wonder if you kind of missed the crux of the theme.
Edit: Also comparing this series with a Joon-ho Bong film because they both involve a serial killer is borderline nonsensical. That's like saying Snowpiercer was a better thing than The Wire because it featured a more enjoyable socio-economic critique. Or something just as silly.
Spiritreaver
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I'm a little late, and sorry for interrupting the riveting BB discussion, but I couldn't agree with you guys more. It's under a lot of people's radars for all the wrong reasons.
Hell I'll even admit that when my friend suggested the show and I heard the name of it and then that it was a legal drama.... I cringed and put off watching it for the longest time.
But yeah, this show needs as much exposure that it can get. Really deserves much higher ratings.
We'll get at least 134 episodes of The Good Wife. I'd take over any award.
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I say BB or Cranston shouldn't win this year, if only to acknowledge how ridiculous it is that AMC is splitting its final seasons in two. Can't wait till other big shows do this to milk things dry, let the final season part two shenanigans commence.
Yeah it's a good show. I put off watching it for a long time too. I think the show has an image problem. The name made me think of a Lifetime movie and the fact it's a serial legal drama on CBS doesn't help matters.
Lack of Hannibal is terribly off-putting for me. At least it should get some technical nominations. But Hugh and Mads not being there.. just ain't right. It's the best show on TV.
Brooklyn Nine-Nine only getting 1 nomination is similarly absurd. I actually do watch BBT but it's not in its class. Biyalik has no right getting a nomination over the B99 ladies. Joe La Truglio being overlooked? Madness. Terry Crews? Madness.
Brooklyn Nine-Nine only getting 1 nomination is similarly absurd. I actually do watch BBT but it's not in its class. Biyalik has no right getting a nomination over the B99 ladies. Joe La Truglio being overlooked? Madness. Terry Crews? Madness.
Not the show's fault that the network is shitty.
Anton Sugar
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HBO wants that Best Drama win, and Game of Thrones certainly is not getting it.
On Miniseries v. Series complications:
http://www.vulture.com/2014/07/emmys-true-detective-fargo-category-explainer.html?mid=twitter_vulture
http://www.vulture.com/2014/07/emmys-true-detective-fargo-category-explainer.html?mid=twitter_vulture
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