Mihael Mello Keehl
Banned
Damn crazy
Well done Sony.
Kamiya-san of course
That thread was disgusting. People basically lynched him for absolutely nothing.
At least he wasn't telling people to "eat shit".
That thread was disgusting. People basically lynched him for absolutely nothing.
You can direct your concerns to microsoft, the company responsible for his termination of contract.
You haven't fucked up since you were 10? You sound inhuman.
It's remarkable how many people miss this point.
Do you guys literally think NeoGAF can fire people from their jobs? It's a yes or no question, open to anyone blaming "the internet."
Social media and putting your words onto the internet is serious business when you are a public face for a company.
You better be very careful about what you say on the internet or you could lose your job. I thought this was like business basics 101.
Kamiya-san of course
I blame the Mayans. If they only showed up during 2012 none of this would be happening.
Thanks a lot Mayan.
That hurts my feelings.
A few years ago, before I had the opportunity to "upgrade" my career path, I worked at a call center. One of the many pieces of documentation I signed said that I can be terminated for making the company look bad, even on my own time. One of the examples given when someone brought it up in training was that you can be terminated for doing something "stupid" like getting in a drunken bar fight. If news of that fight made the paper or social media and blew up locally and that media just so happened to know where you worked, it doesn't make the company look too hot.
It's a more specific example, but it's still appropriate to what happened here. Orth, while representing the company, made disparaging remarks to potential future consumers about rumors said consumers have every right to be concerned about. Microsoft doesn't want anything to do with that, which is why they released a PR statement.
I'm sorry that my stance of "don't be stupid" offends you so much to the point of talking about my deliciously firm ass, but it's a general guideline that serves one pretty well in life.
Who did?
When an employee hops on an internet soapbox and flagrantly sabotages your company's message and its character in the eyes of your consumers, there's one appropriate course of action, and it was taken.
You "won" two victories today: apparently the bitching and crying for no easy mode for Dark Souls 2 paid off. Just had to have that your way. And now your day is ending celebrating someone's loss of job. Sad.
In what planet do people live on where publicly talking about unannounced products that billions are sunk into and insulting a large portion of your potential consumer base doesn't get you in serious trouble? That people seem insistent on blaming this on GAF and the Internet at large is mystifying.
In what planet do people live on where publicly talking about unannounced products that billions are sunk into and insulting a large portion of your potential consumer base doesn't get you in serious trouble? That people seem insistent on blaming this on GAF and the Internet at large is mystifying.
I'm seriously curious as to what would be the tipping point in favor of termination for some people.
Kamiya-san of course
Someone didn't get the joke lol. The comment was "do you eat shit?" in reply to whether he read a website. Implying the website was shit and he didn't want to "eat" or consume it.
But yes, he just told you to eat shit because those are the words in the sentence and you recognize them words.
he just needed to keep his damn mouth shut.When an employee hops on an internet soapbox and flagrantly sabotages your company's message and its character in the eyes of your consumers, there's one appropriate course of action, and it was taken.
Kamiya of Platinum Games/Capcom fame.
But most of GAF went wild over that because "OH THAT WACKY KAMIYA-SAN! SO PUNK-ROCK!"
Kamiya of Platinum Games/Capcom fame.
But most of GAF went wild over that because "OH THAT WACKY KAMIYA-SAN! SO PUNK-ROCK!"
Very very sad. He messed up, but I don't think he should've lost his job. People screw up, and I hate that some people will demand blood.
We live in such a shitty time when it comes to jobs and now he's marked probably for the rest of his career because he messed up. Sucks. I feel really bad for him.
someone who didn't get the joke that i got the joke. but that's okay.
When an employee hops on an internet soapbox and flagrantly sabotages your company's message and its character in the eyes of your consumers, there's one appropriate course of action, and it was taken.
I'll bet it was a knee slapper though! Maybe someday I'll be as subtle as you.
Kamiya of Platinum Games/Capcom fame.
But most of GAF went wild over that because "OH THAT WACKY KAMIYA-SAN! SO PUNK-ROCK!"
Twitter really does have an amazing propensity to get unknowing people in trouble in their professional lives. It affects careers in industries as disparate as gaming and MMA. I would say it's up to companies to keep a tighter leash on social media, but some of this shit seems like basic common sense.
"Don't say stupid shit in public if you like your job" is a pretty universal rule, yet when it comes to Twitter, people seem to struggle mightily with the concept.
I think a large part of it is, that Twitter is still so relatively new and most people are still used to the old internet where it was a lot harder to stick a name on the internet to a real person.
Public Twitter account.
Twitter account publicly states place of employment and position.
Makes public tweets smacking of disdain toward consumers of products from said place of employment.
Fired.
GAF's fault.
Public Twitter account.
Twitter account publicly states place of employment and position.
Makes public tweets smacking of disdain toward consumers of products from said place of employment.
Fired.
GAF's fault.
In what planet do people live on where publicly talking about unannounced products that billions are sunk into and insulting a large portion of your potential consumer base doesn't get you in serious trouble? That people seem insistent on blaming this on GAF and the Internet at large is mystifying.
Public Twitter account.
Twitter account publicly states place of employment and position.
Makes public tweets smacking of disdain toward consumers of products from said place of employment.
Fired.
GAF's fault.
He'll get a second chance, but on another company. He showed everyone on the internet that he wasn't up for the job he had, which requires behaving like a professional even on social networking sites. And his bosses at Microsoft noticed that, and did what they have to.Makes sense but I believe in second chances. I think there are other paths that could have been taken instead of termination. I think people are more forgiving than wanting a pound of flesh every single time they're slighted. Was this a royal fuck up? Yes. Do I think that they could have been able to do something other than fire the guy to placate the masses? Yes.
Ultimately I think it depends on whether you think it's worth the effort to do the damage control to placate the masses who want the guy's head.
He was an asshole who lynched himself through his own assholery. Don't blame the internet for this guy's terrible decisions.
People that work at Microsoft have to hear and read a bunch of criticism and at times, downright feverish hate from consumers on a daily basis. Some of the dude's that worked on Windows 8 have probably read articles and tons of forum posts about how shitty or incompetent that version of Windows is.
They don't go to Twitter and shit talk those saying criticism, they don't get so overly flustered that they potentially leak out details about a future Windows project, and they usually don't say things that many major websites would eat up.
Orth let the internet and the many people on it get to him, and instead of dealing with it in a non toxic way, he went to Twitter to let steam off and shoot some shit back at the internet. For someone that works at a company like Microsoft, he got way too attached to his own personal project and didn't think about the company as a whole.
Getting fired for what he did isn't sad, it isn't unfair, he royally fucked up in one of the silliest ways possible.