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[Random Human]

Irony is a hell of a drug.

 

[jstripes]

YouTube gives you recommendations based on what you like and watch. You're not gonna find it there.

Now Tumblr, that's a lot closer. That place is teeming with creativity, if you follow the right blogs.

Anyway, kids don't wear rebellion on their sleeves like in the past. It's all online.

 

[vonStirlitz]

In high capitalism, rebellion is merely another product to be consumed.

 

[Ottaro]

We slid into the dystopia society books always warned us about without even realizing it.

 

[hughesta]

They're rebeling against giving a damn. Cynicism is the current trend, as sincerity just makes you a target for disappointment and disillusionment. It's better in their eyes to say everything sucks and life is all one big joke.

Note that this is me being an old man and looking at what's most notable to me. I'm sure not everyone is like that.

as a millennial this is very accurate. Nihilism is getting more popular by the day.

 

[Chmpocalypse]

Thought this was going to be about Evilore.

Needs to be.

#where'sthethread

 

[gun_haver]

As an 18 year old, these feels weird to read. Young people are active in protesting, though yes it probably appears to have diminished in scope to those outside the age range, especially since most fight back online. But only last year most schools shut down as most the teens in my city were protesting Trump's education program and marching to the mayor so...

This all just reads like people out of touch and angry at the wrong things here.

we always protested, i still do. that isn't what i mean. protesting against stuff you don't agree with engenders culture, but it isn't culture itself. i'm asking where is the culture.

 

[eizarus]

They have become anti-vaxxers, flat earthers, or alt-right.

Came here to say this.

 

[Acerac]

Did you miss the alt right OP?

The youth is absolutely shaping the future of the country.

 

[Beartruck]

we always protested, i still do. that isn't what i mean. protesting against stuff you don't agree with engenders culture, but it isn't culture itself. i'm asking where is the culture.

You saw it yourself right there in the OP, you just fundamentally don't understand it. Again, welcome to getting old.

 

[Randomizer123454444]

Rebellion is there it just took some other form than idiotic street violence.

I would say a lot of it has moved online in one form or another. And it is easily drowned there because online it is hard to see if someone is 12 or 60. I mean assumptions can be made but not accurately.

 

[gun_haver]

Did you miss the alt right OP?

The youth is absolutely shaping the future of the country.

if that is the sum of the youth response then the conclusion of this thread will truly be depressing

there's gotta be more, that's what i'm trying to reveal with this. keep going.

 

[NimbusD]

Yeah as other people have said, the subculture you haven't dreamt of is what got trump into power. Def not as alluring as punk or goth for sure.

 

[collige]

They're rebeling against giving a damn. Cynicism is the current trend, as sincerity just makes you a target for disappointment and disillusionment. It's better in their eyes to say everything sucks and life is all one big joke.

Note that this is me being an old man and looking at what's most notable to me. I'm sure not everyone is like that.

Yeah, this.

 

[JCHandsom]

In high capitalism, rebellion is merely another product to be consumed.

This is a big part of it too.

We all laughed at that Pepsi ad, but it's not far off from how "resistance" is just as much of a consumer product as the things people resist against are.

 

[gun_haver]

are you kidding me

is it really that bleak

has the balance of rebellion just kind of shifted into 'oh i'm gonna be a huge piece of shit now'

no way, no.

i don't accept it. there are too many good kids out there staying quiet.

 

[jstripes]

we always protested, i still do. that isn't what i mean. protesting against stuff you don't agree with engenders culture, but it isn't culture itself. i'm asking where is the culture.

It's there. You just don't see it because they're not active in the same venues that you are.

Also,

 

[Random Human]

we always protested, i still do. that isn't what i mean. protesting against stuff you don't agree with engenders culture, but it isn't culture itself. i'm asking where is the culture.

Part of the issue is that the internet has fragmented things so much that there is no culture. At least not how people used to think of it. The next Nirvana will get tens of thousands of Spotify streams and go largely unnoticed. There are still big cultural moments like The Force Awakens or The Avengers, but Disney blockbusters aren’t what you look for in starting a counter-culture rebellion (even if they’re literally about rebellion).

 

[JJH]

All my nieces and nephews are either too busy with IG or PUBG.

 

[Beartruck]

People saying all young people are alt right are gonna make me roll my eyes out of my sockets. For every young alt righter, theres 10 more liberal leaning kids who think those guys are assholes. Every Trump supporter ive met in public has been 50+.

 

[Acerac]

if that is the sum of the youth response then the conclusion of this thread will truly be depressing

there's gotta be more, that's what i'm trying to reveal with this. keep going.

It's certainly the most notable impact they've had. It is depressing, but what can you expect given their shitty situation combined with the terrible attitude people hold towards them?

Any leftist rebellion like the 99% or BLM will be shat on by the media relentlessly, so you aren't gonna see much positive coverage there if that's what you were hoping for?

 

[Jinfash]

Thought this was going to be about Evilore.

Haha, same.

Needs to be.

#where'sthethread

What did I miss?

 

[gun_haver]

It's there. You just don't see it because they're not active in the same venues that you are.

Also,

no i see it pal, that twet is kind of what i mean.

i''ll nod and be like 'heh, true' and not remember the name of the author, and even saying author seems pretentious so fuck it tweeter

and then go on and do nothing about it, except in certain flash points when i do, but generally let inequality occur around me. we all do this. we've done it for fucking years.

my point is i was expecting the teens to say 'dude fuck off do it like this' but they don't. they're new. they should have new ideas. but they don't. they have 'oh wow that sounds good' ideas.

 

[aeolist]

What did I miss?

sexual assault accusation threads lately, general intimations of shitty behavior for years, all locked and frequently with OPs banned

 

[NeoZeedeater]

People saying all young people are alt right are gonna make me roll my eyes out of my sockets.

Yeah, and it's also a very US-centric thing to say. The alt right has even less influence in many other countries.

 

[CoolestSpot]

Yeah as other people have said, the subculture you haven't dreamt of is what got trump into power. Def not as alluring as punk or goth for sure.

I never got Goth's appeal. Just seems to be a just a lame version of punk.

 

[Parch]

Died in the 90's. When your parents were the hippie generation and then they grow up to be just like every other generation it kind of forces you to realize that your passions wont really mean anything when you are 30 too. Gen x was the first generation to be able to see clearly from a young age that everyone grows up to be a selfish hypocrite.

Whatever.

Pretty much. The Boomers when young were really the last truly rebellious generation. Being cynical isn't being rebellious. It's just worthless, apathetic, whining.

 

[WhateverItTakes]

I'd like to see some new groups like Goths pop up. This whole snapback thing isn't for me.

I would also not be a part of this new group because I'm dull as fuck.

 

[Rapscallion]

We’ve standardized pre-university schooling to the point that kids don’t learn the critical thinking abilities to even begin to understand what’s going on. Then we’ve made college so grossly expensive that you’re forced to only focus on majors that fit into a career path, rather than majors (sociology, poli sci,etc.) that will actually teach you shit about the world.

Don’t blame the kids. Blame the parents who sold the world.

 

[gun_haver]

Yeah, and it's also a very US-centric thing to say. The alt right has even less influence in many other countries.

yeah man, it just isn't true to say all young people are trending alt right. it's a lie. they're gonna be us soon so don't be so harsh and lies-easy.

 

[bengraven]

They are going far right to rebel.

A friend of mine was a goth and her husband a punk, and they were awesome parents that raised two intelligent children, however one of the two decided in their rough teen years that the only way to rebel against their parents was to basically become a gun nut redneck. Of course because my friends are cool as hell they just let it slide and embraced it so that’s over mostly.

 

[old manatee]

It's been real, but I'm moving on. Bye gaf, I secretly loved you all.

 

[Kurita]

I'm not sure why a culture is necessary though. Young people protest, get involved, speak up, etc...

 

[gun_haver]

It's been real, but I'm moving on. Bye gaf, I secretly loved you all.

may the lord bless and keep you

have a good life pal

 

[jstripes]

no i see it pal, that twet is kind of what i mean.

i''ll nod and be like 'heh, true' and not remember the name of the author, and even saying author seems pretentious so fuck it tweeter

and then go on and do nothing about it, except in certain flash points when i do, but generally let inequality occur around me. we all do this. we've done it for fucking years.

my point is i was expecting the teens to say 'dude fuck off do it like this' but they don't. they're new. they should have new ideas. but they don't. they have 'oh wow that sounds good' ideas.

Ok, we all hate the term SJW, but it comes from a different place than its current meaning.

There are people who go HARD on social issues. Those tweets and posts get retweeted and reblogged all over the place. There is active rebellion, and I see it all the time. People people ignore it or block it out because it appears obnoxious, but a day doesn't go by online where I don't see people loudly speaking up against inequality.

It's not on the streets that much because we're living in a world of Fox News and Facebook propaganda, but remember the protest marches after Trump got elected. Those were MASSIVE.

 

[Chmpocalypse]

What did I miss?

Accusations against Evilore (I'm not saying they're true, mind) and subsequent threads on the topic being locked, with a vague promise that a statement is coming "soon".

Meanwhile, people are feverishly googling the topic. Hence my comment - I think it's best if this gets addressed and put to bed (however it shakes out) sooner rather than later.

Edit: on topic, rebellion still exists, but in a world as fractured as ours due to the ability to signal boost any voice on the internet it's likewise fractured.

 

[HariKari]

It's not on the streets that much because we're living in a world of Fox News and Facebook propaganda, but remember the protest marches after Trump got elected. Those were MASSIVE.

They stopped pretty quickly, as if everyone felt their obligation had been completed. We're not even talking about Vegas much at this point. If there's an undercurrent of activism, it sure isn't making itself known.

Accusations against Evilore (I'm not saying they're true, mind) and subsequent threads on the topic being locked, with a vague promise that a statement is coming "soon".

Meanwhile, people are feverishly googling the topic. Hence my comment - I think it's best if this gets addressed and put to bed (however it shakes out) sooner rather than later.

A statement is coming.

 

[Bounceounce]

What are these teens doing?

I kind of assumed that a lot of them would be creating subcultures I hadn't dreamt of, that none of us would, and that would later come into fruition. All I see are shitty youtube channels, reactions to corporate media, streaming horseshit, and stuff about mainstream pop music, Where are the rebellious kids who are gonna reshape what we have now into something new?

I'm actually asking. I wanna see it.

What are you talking about, this post sounds like anger filled, irrational, gibberish.
Write something more solid if you want to complain about modern youth culture and or apathy.

 

[gun_haver]

Ok, we all hate the term SJW, but it comes from a different place than its current meaning.

There are people who go HARD on social issues. Those tweets and posts get retweeted and reblogged all over the place. There is active rebellion, and I see it all the time. People people ignore it or block it out because it appears obnoxious, but a day doesn't go by online where I don't see people loudly speaking up against inequality.

It's not on the streets that much because we're living in a world of Fox News and Facebook propaganda, but remember the protest marches after Trump got elected. Those were MASSIVE.

i mean

i don't hate the term sjw. i wear it proudly.

i just don't talk about it all the time. that isn't really what this topic is about either.

 

[Kyzer]

What are these teens doing?

All I see are shitty youtube channels, reactions to corporate media, streaming horseshit, and stuff about mainstream pop music

Gotta say, this reads like an old man

 

[gun_haver]

What are you talking about, this post sounds like anger filled, irrational, gibberish.
Write something more solid if you want to complain about modern youth culture and or apathy.

it's called a question

Gotta say, this reads like an old man

I know it does, asking questions about the 'youth' inherently carries that kinda of stigma. Respond as you feel.

 

[hughesta]

millenials are not turning far right in the numbers this thread claims. Most people my age are very liberal, although that may just be the company I surround myself with.

The rebellion of the youth has become nihilism. Hopelessness is pretty widespread, and most people my age don't believe there's a future for this country or even planet. The environment is fucked and Donald Trump got elected. Why even bother, nothing can change so why do anything at all?

A lot of rebellion in the past seemed to be about seeing what the 'game' was and doing the opposite of that in an attempt to inspire change. Rebellion now is just not playing any game at all. Most people my age that I know are very liberal, yes, but they're also hopeless about the possibility of any positive change happening.

 

[Moose Biscuits]

Paint has actually never been safer. Most oil based paints have been outlawed or gone away in favor of water based ones. Most are 0 VOC.

Not enough lead in the paint then, it's making kids docile. More lead!

 

[WhateverItTakes]

Accusations against Evilore (I'm not saying they're true, mind) and subsequent threads on the topic being locked, with a vague promise that a statement is coming "soon".

Meanwhile, people are feverishly googling the topic. Hence my comment - I think it's best if this gets addressed and put to bed (however it shakes out) sooner rather than later.

Edit: on topic, rebellion still exists, but in a world as fractured as ours due to the ability to signal boost any voice on the internet it's likewise fractured.

It's honestly a big problem with how the internet is. You get an army of bots/paid actors to push a post and it's prominent, it's big. And then there's the other side, where you get articles written about posts by 3 people which decry "This is what X movement is like". Stuff like that keeps people from coming together in a bigger group because it puts people off getting out of their circle.

 

[GamerJM]

Memes

 

[PSqueak]

The revolution will be instagrammed.

yo joke, but the truth is, basically it's on the internet.

 

[gun_haver]

millenials are not turning far right in the numbers this thread claims. Most people my age are very liberal, although that may just be the company I surround myself with.

The rebellion of the youth has become nihilism. Hopelessness is pretty widespread, and most people my age don't believe there's a future for this country or even planet. The environment is fucked and Donald Trump got elected. Why even bother, nothing can change so why do anything at all?

A lot of rebellion in the past seemed to be about seeing what the 'game' was and doing the opposite of that in an attempt to inspire change. Rebellion now is just not playing any game at all. Most people my age that I know are very liberal, yes, but they're also hopeless about the possibility of any positive change happening.

i can see that, i don't agree with it, but nice one for considering all the bits and pieces

 

[joe_zazen]

Rebellion is about creating an identity and becoming more independent and occurs on a micro/famial scale. I wouldn’t conflate that with social movements or rebellion against The Man.

 

[Earthbound64]

well yeah man, that's what i mean. i know i'm old, i'm 28, i'm out of the rebellion zone, but i was expecting something meaningful. all i see are reactions to big data or already established corporate entities. and they all seem to be satisfied with that.

So, what did you do to "rebel" as a teen?

 

[cryptosporidium]

Alt right is the rebellion of our generation I guess?

Also Occupy and Arab Spring were only like 6 years ago