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Am I missing something, where's the rebellion

There was supposed to be an earth-shattering rebellion!

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Valhelm

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We had 8 years of a black man/ democrat in the white house.

Pepe and the alt right is the rebellion.

No it's not, the alt right is just an honestly small group of racist young guys affirming the anxieties of Baby Boomers. There's nothing rebellious about trying to help the GOP affirm their policy goals.

Today's young people are the most left-wing generation since the 1960s and seem genuinely concerned with broader hierarchies, like white supremacy and capitalism, in ways that our forebears were not. We don't form edgy subcultural groups because most of us recognize that lifestylism does not lead to social change and because social media and the internet offer more private and individualist avenues of expressing personal identity.
 
Alt-right IS the new counterculture. It's a backlash against all the social progress made in the last couple decades, by people (mostly white men) who think progress swung too far. Theres this emerging and disturbing idea that feminism is sexist against men, or that white people are villified.

What sucks is that the ideas that the Alt-Right believe in are thoughts that won't go away anytime soon. There are plenty of groups that are against the alt-right, but it's a constant struggle of staying on top of the flagpole; you're either relevant to the world or not.

Hell, at this point, the Alt-Right is more of an ideology rather than a group.
 
Where's the Rebellion? I grow tired of asking this, so it will be the last time. Where is the Rebel base?

Who knows? After their second major victory, the Rebellion has relocated somewhere else far. However, their enemies are closing in on them fast, so they best be prepared when the attack comes.
 

Syriel

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What are these teens doing?

I kind of assumed that a lot of them would be creating subcultures I hadn't dreamt of, that none of us would, and that would later come into fruition. All I see are shitty youtube channels, reactions to corporate media, streaming horseshit, and stuff about mainstream pop music, Where are the rebellious kids who are gonna reshape what we have now into something new?

I'm actually asking. I wanna see it.

They're bringing back all the stuff that older generations literally fought wars to eliminate.

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However, many women and teens of color are out there doing great things (as are some of their white male allies) in the Trump era and participating in a level of activism not seen since Vietnam.
This may shock you, but there are actually white people doing good things that aren't nazis or "allies" and don't live on facebook or twitter. They are just people.

At any rate, why would anyone want teenagers to come up with anything. They are morons. Ever had to go to a mall?

Want to make a difference? Explain to kids they can make big changes by being active in politics in ways other than complaining about the current state of...politics. Like, for example, getting into politics as a career, or campaigning for local government officials that share your same views.
 
This may shock you, but there are actually white people doing good things that aren't nazis or "allies" and don't live on facebook or twitter. They are just people.

At any rate, why would anyone want teenagers to come up with anything. They are morons. Ever had to go to a mall?

Didn't know it was possible to contradict yourself in a post so quickly.
 

Aeolus

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They're too busy texting, taking selfies, writing their daily routine into their (quasi-diary) facebook to notice the real world. If they can't even talk to others face to face without having a panic attack, how do you expect them to play any part in a rebellion?
 
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thepotatoman

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They're too busy texting, taking selfies, writing their daily routine into their (quasi-diary) facebook to notice the real world. If they can't even talk to others face to face without having a panic attack, how do you expect them to play any part in a rebellion?

At least the trend of old people complaining about young people continues.
 

Valhelm

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They're bringing back all the stuff that older generations literally fought wars to eliminate.

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the alt-right is not a substantial part of millennials/gen Z. while a larger fraction of white guys under 30 are openly racist in comparison to 30 years ago, this is a reaction to loss of status of white guys and not representative of white young people in general. Expect that in 2030, young white racists will continue to be vocal while traditional young conservatives continue to dwindle into irrelevance

This is a stupid post because the average white guy who fought the Nazis in WW2 would have had incredibly reactionary views on race and gender that would make him not too dissimilar to Spencer fans today. Idolizing white dudes of the past for not being as bad as the Nazis is reactionary and dangerous.
 

Valhelm

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normal baby boomers and Gen X are exceptionally more dangerous than the youth Alt-Right, because there's tens of millions of them and they play a more active role in upholding racial and economic hierarchies

Most of the money funding youth far-right groups comes from reactionary elites born in the 70s or earlier.
 

Toparaman

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People saying all young people are alt right are gonna make me roll my eyes out of my sockets. For every young alt righter, theres 10 more liberal leaning kids who think those guys are assholes. Every Trump supporter ive met in public has been 50+.
Most baby boomers weren't hippies. Most Gen Xers weren't punks.

Rebellions are driven by small yet influential groups of disrupters. The alt-right fits the bill perfectly, despite it not fitting our romanticized, sanitized notions of rebellion that have, ironically enough, been popularised by mass media.
 

kirblar

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Most baby boomers weren't hippies. Most Gen Xers weren't punks.

Rebellions are driven by small yet influential groups of disrupters. The alt-right fits the bill perfectly, despite it not fitting our romanticized, sanitized notions of rebellion that have, ironically enough, been popularised by mass media.
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They're reactionaries reacting to a liberalizing cultural status quo.
 

sphagnum

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Socialists have been hard at work trying to be "respectable", so the only wing that comes off as rebellious is Antifa. And that's really just to counter the fascists.
 
What are these teens doing?

I kind of assumed that a lot of them would be creating subcultures I hadn't dreamt of, that none of us would, and that would later come into fruition. All I see are shitty youtube channels, reactions to corporate media, streaming horseshit, and stuff about mainstream pop music, Where are the rebellious kids who are gonna reshape what we have now into something new?

I'm actually asking. I wanna see it.

Where were you when it was your job to make the world a better place? Playing shitty video games I guess.
 

Anticol

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The only way we wiill get this teens to rebel is if we get their mobiles out of them. Thye dont care about anything else in the world just followers and stupid shit.
 

Liljagare

Gold Member
A new social revolution isn't going to happen...

The latest generations are too entitled, nothing short of a war will engage the young people nowadays.

And then when that happens, they won't know what to do.


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thepotatoman

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Most baby boomers weren't hippies. Most Gen Xers weren't punks.

Rebellions are driven by small yet influential groups of disrupters. The alt-right fits the bill perfectly, despite it not fitting our romanticized, sanitized notions of rebellion that have, ironically enough, been popularised by mass media.

Do they fit the bill better than LGBT and "SJW"s? Those groups do plenty of disrupting as well.
 
A lot of young people are doing things, like in South America, specially native groups, or even in Europe, but the media would not comment on that, Check all the occupations that exist, the anarchist movements that try to establish comunas and the like.
 

Toparaman

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Do they fit the bill better than LGBT and "SJW"s? Those groups do plenty of disrupting as well.

They do, but I think mass-media and pop culture are much friendlier and more supportive of LGBT and social justice than they are of alt-right ideals. So it feels less disruptive and more mainstream as a result.

But it's tricky to parse this all out because of the cultural divide between media and reality, and differing cultures based on location. There's nothing rebellious about being anti-SJW in the southern U.S., and there's nothing rebellious about being pro-SJW in the east/west coast of US.
 
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