we can probably extend this to most games developed by Insomniac. I mean sometimes it's ok - they needed the Resistance 2 backlash and it lead to Resistance 3 having one of the best FPS campaigns ever, and they definitely fucked up some aspects(not the gameplay, luckily) in R&C over the years - but I swear they have some kind of curse as far as board reactions go lol
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An Inside Look at Marvels Spider-Man
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we can probably extend this to most games developed by Insomniac. I mean sometimes it's ok - they needed the Resistance 2 backlash and it lead to Resistance 3 having one of the best FPS campaigns ever, and they definitely fucked up some aspects(not the gameplay, luckily) in R&C over the years - but I swear they have some kind of curse as far as board reactions go lol
Spring-Loaded
Member
I could never get around the fur collar
I thought the bomber jacket in Homecoming was a nice nod to that though.
They could finally do Rhino justice with some destructible indoor environments, or a chase through the city with him barreling through cars, or anything more than the simple bull fights from the early 3D SM games.
I generally agree about the other villains.
Like a little fun mini-game. The whole thing can take 30 minutes to complete but you can stop whenever you like. Pretty simple really.
Bonus collectible being Dr. Pepper. Find all of the Dr. Pepper cans hidden in Peter Parker's room for a Dr. Pepper Spider suit.
PleaseDontBanMe
Banned
Peter can shoot his webs on my face any day
WordsintheWater
Member
I would think mechanical just going by Spider-Man himself, him being a scientist and creating all the gadgets he uses just seems like they're gonna go with that route all around.
Equanimity
Member
I know that feeling all too well. Kind of glad I'm out of that circle now.
FantasticMrFoxdie
Mumber
i wonder when we're getting that alt E3 demo >_<
i say nitpicking as in all the other animations are pretty stellar except the ones being pointed out. I didn't say you can't point it out or discuss it. i'm just saying i'm rolling my eyes hard at it. Particularly when it could totally be a design choice for them to prioritize control over animation
i say nitpicking as in all the other animations are pretty stellar except the ones being pointed out. I didn't say you can't point it out or discuss it. i'm just saying i'm rolling my eyes hard at it. Particularly when it could totally be a design choice for them to prioritize control over animation
DangerMouse
Member
Yep.
Anyway, love this new suit. The white spider looks great.
Yeah, it's incredibly impressive what Insomniac is pulling off here.
Yeah. This would be fantastic if they can pull this off. Which is something they've talked about aiming for. Capturing how the two parts interfere with each other.
I also like the idea that's been brought up a number of times of something kind of like Persona with all of these characters you interact with as Peter in the city.
FantasticMrFoxdie
Mumber
Whoa This game has so much potential. Damn
Thats where i'm at. I rarely get it, haven't had it since MGSV.
Side note: Love the avatar. I went to a Fifth Element screening over the weekend and Milla, Chris Tucker, and Luc Besson were there. Man Milla is still gorgeous <3
I've already had it with Zelda this year, never had it with a game not due out until the following year though. It's going to be a long wait.
Side note: That's awesome. And wow, she really is.
Liabe Brave
Member
But what if a team used a dissimilar method to stand out even more? You very much seem to think this would be a failure. Novelty is not allowed.
Yes I am. Besides "further instances the same as existing examples", exactly what definition do you propose we use for "homogenization"?
No, I am saying that "high quality" does not necessarily equate to "based on what came before". You seem to be so entrenched in there being a Right Way and a Wrong Way to animate things, that you can't grasp this.
"No animation blending" or "less animation blending" are descriptions. "Poor animation blending" is a proscription, a demand that transitions be handled a certain specific way or be stupid and wrong.
Except that at some points, they deviate from prior art. And those are exactly the points where you complain and say they're failing.
Unlike everything else you've said, this is a real counterargument. If Insomniac is trying real hard to be like other games but just not making it, then perhaps your advice about what to fix is helpful.
But the fact is, they haven't articulated their vision publicly with enough detail that we can be sure of this. My alternative take is that, as a seasoned team of industry veterans, the work is shaped (mostly) how they want it. If the methods to match their vision are common art, and so obvious to animators outside the company, I assume they'd already be in place if desired. Their absence by itself argues that Insomniac is pursuing a different goal. Whether that's a sense of superhuman speed, or immediacy of player control, or violence-effacing cartoonishness, or whatever, I think they should be allowed to pursue that.
Your stance seems to be either that Insomniac shouldn't reach for anything else--which I've argued against until now--or that they're already not trying for something new, they're just not sufficiently skilled at animation to get the old thing they're after. Which position is your actual one?
Sebastiano
Member
That game will be glorious, glo-ri-ous!
Blackleg-sanji1
Banned
No comic con psx most likely
Blackleg-sanji1
Banned
My mind is racing...
WordsintheWater
Member
Yes ever since I saw that Subway battle picture I wanted that to happen in game, good news
TimFL
Member
Yeah can't wait for the topic discussing the insane amount of QTE in the subway battle. Because that (and animations) is everything GAF talks about in regards to this game.
Any news on the extended E3 gameplay demo? "Very soon".
Spring-Loaded
Member
I do wonder how they'll have a good boss battle in such a tight space.
kunonabi
Member
Man, give me an MJ relationship and a non-shitty costume and I'll be in like Flynn.
