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Anecdotal evidence RE: Xbox One vs PS4 demand
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Prince Vultan
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Buy a 360.
This happened at my local EB Games' midnight launch
Pre-ordered the earliest you possibly could (waiting outside doors for store to open...) but at the mn release was made to line up, verify receipt, grab a ticket, basically first come first serve on the night...
Don't see the point of pre-ordering if they do things like that o.o
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thepotatoman
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Another piece of anecdotal evidence is Craigslist and Ebay auctions seem to put both systems around $600 despite ps4 being $100 cheaper.
They've also got the odds stacked against them until the price comes down. The multimedia features are obviously meant to appeal to the mainstream market more so than the hardcore launch adopters.
God no. I have a PS4 for multiplats and exclusives, a Wii U for Nintendo games, and a 360 for current gen releases. I'm not paying 500 dollars for an MS exclusives box. No thank you.
I miss Mattrick.
His sad-sack expressions create the best gifs.
Don't worry. I don't think CEO at Zynga made him any happier.
gaming_noob
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$100 cheaper and more powerful. MS needs to realize marketing alone will not sell their crap anymore.
Btw, Torontonians, PS4 and Xbones are available at Bestbuy at the Eaton's Center.
Btw, Torontonians, PS4 and Xbones are available at Bestbuy at the Eaton's Center.
People always say that a Kinectless box would cost $300-350, but where are you getting your data from? Looking at the HW most of the expensive stuff of Kinect (processing) is on the main SOC. I hope MS cuts price aggressively but I don't see a $300 XB1 happening for a while.
This just helps show that there's ZERO way for anyone here to come to a conclusion either way. Also, half the time (all the time actually it seems) Amazon's lists make zero sense.
I'd expect it to be more popular in Europe...following the trend of leaning towards Sony.
In the US...no clue...none of us have a clue.
We don't know the answer to the US questions below...
If Microsoft sold more, did they have more available?
If the PS4 sold more, did they have more available?
Is Microsoft supplying stock at a higher rate?
Is Sony supplying stock at a higher rate?
Is the PS4 selling out instantly due to less being delivered to stock?
On and on...those questions are practically the same question worded in a different way. It's like he articles that say (said) things like NPD and sales numbers may not tell the truth for some time. Stock vs demand in the US through this week is data that none of us have. Maybe there is more demand for the PS4/X1...who knows? If you receive 20 of one system and 50 of the other....and the system with 20 goes first....that tells us nothing.
I think it's going to be a while before we can draw any conclusions in the US. I look forward to NPD...but I have no idea if it will show us anything worthwhile in either direction.
It would if it wasn't godawful. A lot if not most of their marketing consisted of mitigating damage done during reveal and E3.
Salmonbottle
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I should mention that I don't work in electronics, this is just my secondhand view of the situation. But the word "Xbox" is thrown around constantly and I never hear anyone ask or talk about PS4.
It's really weird to hear about other stores having Xboxes sitting on the shelf. I wonder if it's regional or something, like how different areas of the US used to use MSN while other areas used AIM.
East Coast US here.
gutter_trash
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anexanhume
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His post is selective stat quoting and junk without the full picture.
Facts:
- The PS4 launch edition has been delisted from Amazon.
- If you go to the PS4, you have to find a bundle and then select just the console. The console, with no "launch" or other signifier, is not ranked there either.
- The PS4 also has over double the reviews (4k vs 1.7k). I'm going to assume there's some correlation between sales and number of reviews.
- The PS4 with game bundle at #74 has sold better than every single Xbox One game this year except COD: Ghosts, which sits at #69.
- There are 3 PS4 games in the top 40. COD: Ghosts is the only Xbox One game in the top 100.
Majmun
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Yeah, I always go searching for Ps4 stock in The Netherlands and Germany. No Ps4's to be found, it's getting crazy.
Xbox One consoles in stock in all gamestores I've visited in Germany so far.
Sony needs to ampe up their Ps4 productivity
They both made the boxes as small as they could. The X1 box just has a bigger console, power brick, Kinect, and full headset inside.
I'm not getting that data from anywhere. I'm just saying that 300 dollars is the price point at which I'd jump in.
You get a nice surprise then instead of the usual fanboy stuff?
All I care about is that both sell and get the games!
I think people held on to the fact PS4 has superior multiplats and 1080p. There is no way in hell the current exclusives are creating this demand. If MS had not left out gamers from day 1 they would have seen their exclusive games perform better and create more demand for the system.
Interfectum
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Southeast Coast US and anecdotally PS4 is killing it here. I could walk into any store on launch day for Xbox and pick one up. PS4's were already spoken for before midnight (line/pre-orders). I asked some of my co-workers what they and/or their 360 playing kids want and all of them have gone with PS4.
What I always hear: "price difference" "power difference" "don't have cable"
Oh, that I can agree with. But I can't see that happening before late 2015 if prices follow a similar trajectory to last gen.
GoofsterStud
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Using Amazons top 2013 best sellers in videogames and the fact that we know that the Ps4 launch editions have been delisted as the skew isn't unique.
We can use the following as evidence:
Controller ranking
DS4 21 | X1 79
Number of top 50 ranked titles.
PS4 3 | X1 0
Number of bundles in the top 100
PS4 1 | X1 0
PS4 versions of multiplats outsell the Xbox One version.
Do you really want to play the let's use Amazon game?
gaming_noob
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*cringe* The biggest standout, and the first thing I think of when I remember the reveal, is a middle aged woman on stage talking about TV deals.
Banjo-Kazooie
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Depends really...
My target has received 3 shipments of X1 so far. One for launch, one for Black Friday, and another last night. They have received 1 shipment of PS4s so far, which was launch. Demand is super crazy for PS4 though, people calling up all the time for it. Had 4 X1s sitting in the case when I left work at 11PM last night.
Who's to tell how many shipments each store has been getting. For all we know, that San Fran Target has gotten 2 shipments of PS4 and 5 shipments of X1 (which all might have sold through).
Regarding the picture, was I the only one getting nervous for that back stack of PS4s? Dear God, thankfully a new hire didn't walk by it with his face in an iPhone and knock those bad boys over!
From another thread I posted in
Boss asked me to call around my local GameStops to see if they had PS4's and Xbones. First one I called said they had plenty of Xbones but they were sold out on PS4's. The rest I called it was the same story (I called like 5 total) with 1 store being sold out of both.
He went and picked up 10 Xbones with COD Ghosts last week.
Going to be awesome to get me one of those at our Xmas party
You're right, I keep forgetting about the power brick and Kinect taking up space.
Situation seems to be the opposite in the US, at least in terms of stock. Xbox One seems to be widely available to purchase and even went up on Amazon a few times. PS4? Nowhere to be seen. At this rate, Xbox One may win the holidays in the US purely because people can actually buy them. We already have a ton of evidence they won Black Friday.
OT: Anyone else notice how the PS4 Launch Edition has been removed from the 2013 best-sellers? Previously it used to be #6, now its nowhere to be found, giving the impression that Xbox One is the best selling next-gen console on Amazon, which is false. Anyone know why Amazon did this?
OT: Anyone else notice how the PS4 Launch Edition has been removed from the 2013 best-sellers? Previously it used to be #6, now its nowhere to be found, giving the impression that Xbox One is the best selling next-gen console on Amazon, which is false. Anyone know why Amazon did this?
Banjo-Kazooie
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I work in electronics as well, albeit in an east coast, New England retail store. People are constantly talking in store about X1, after all, we do have a demo station set up. It's entertaining watching guys try and sell their significant other on the system.
However, LOTS of people call me asking if PS4 is in stock, and sadly, the answer has been no
PS4 launch in Germany...
If your friend was looking for a PS4, the Colma Target had some PS4s yesterday around noon. Not sure if they're still available though.
Ludicrous Speed
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I'd love to hear similar anecdotal evidence about the US. I think that's the one market xbox has a real good chance. VERY good
SwiftDeath
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Great minds think alike although I want a DR3 box and would bite at 400 even though the HW isn't up to snuff
Nice boss. Which industry?
yea, 55/45 in favor of the bone.
And even at that. I believe Sony should be jumping up and down. That would be a win for sony
There has been, all over if you look for it. Xbone is getting killed all over.
Ludicrous Speed
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No, I have been looking, and you're wrong. A lot of people in other threads saying to just walk into a Best Buy or other shop are not in the US. They are in Canada or various parts of Europe.
I've been actively looking. Haven't found either console on shelves. Have you????!
SwiftDeath
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Yeah no
XB1 Day One Edition Box >>> PS4 Box >>> XB1 Standard Box
That green is super fugly
Banjo-Kazooie
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No kidding. I usually get a cup full of candy canes or something.
Than again, I also get the priviledge of paying $35 to attend the company XMAS party. Yippie.
Like you've been told, PS4 Launch Edition has been de-listed from Amazons best-sellers chart. A console doesn't go from being the #6 best-selling product of the year to #75. These are 2 completely different products. One is(was) the launch edition, the other is the BF4 bundle which I expect to get de-listed any day now as well.
Microsoft is kicking Sony's ass in terms of just keeping these consoles in stock. Demand or not, Xbox One may sell better this holiday if Sony doesn't restock.
Dragonborn
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I think it's more along the lines of they wouldn't pay more than $350. I sure as heck wouldn't either $399 with Kinect, or $300-$350 without it. Why would a Kinectless X1 cost the same as an obviously more powerful PS4?
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