Oh man, are we going to talk about this now? I think that's my cue to mosey.
He has a point. People seem to think that Joe doesn't have to follow these things since he's just a guy in his room on Youtube. =P Check throughout the thread.
Oh man, are we going to talk about this now? I think that's my cue to mosey.
Joe comes out of this looking really bad and this is coming from someone who enjoys his videos. He's not understanding what Stapleton is mad about: using a quote from a preview and then passing it off as something IGN supposedly said in their review. He also goes into name calling territory and comes off as a petulant child. I thought Joe was better then that.
Angry Joe fucking sucks.. next he will be calling out Sessler for making reviews that are too "wordy"
Alright, this makes more sense. Joe should be more responsible with the content he throws up on the screen when talking about certain sections. But I still think Dan comes off looking bad on this one. The way he went about it, and then taunting Joe over youtube views is just...I dunno, childish. Especially if you are a professional. But Joe also shouldn't have replied to him either. So I guess both lose out on this one.
It's interesting how much hate you have for Angry Joe. If you want I can show you how every single human being on Earth isn't perfectly accurate. Also, when you play the accusation game, then provide concrete evidence, such as the time on the video that you saw him say that. Since you heard him say it then you should know when he said it, it would save me some time. Thanks.
His point BTW is still absolutely fucking perfectly valid even if taking into account your nit-picking. Game is too short and buying the game would support this business of selling a demo.
Anyway regarding this IGN thing, who publicly started bad mouthing? The IGN dude. If there is an inaccuracy in the review, just send a private message. No need to fucking accuse Angry Joe of "maliciously misquoting," especially when he was just using random examples of positive things journalists said while ignoring some negatives.
No one disagrees with you here. =)
Perhaps IGN shouldn't make such asinine, over zealous quotes pre release and we wouldn't run into this problem.He knowingly took a quote from a PREVIEW and used it while criticizeing REVIEWS.
Anyone who works in journalism would find that decietful and just bad practice.
It makes him look amatuer, which he is.
Yeah guys, we have to take it literally. Don't worry about the context of what was being highlighted by Joe. Let's take it literally because that's how we are.He knowingly took a quote from a PREVIEW and used it while criticizeing REVIEWS.
Anyone who works in journalism would find that decietful and just bad practice.
It makes him look amatuer, which he is.
Lucky for Angry Joe he doesn't have a real job and doesn't deal with real requirements and regulations. He's free to be as much of a jackass as he wants.
I always though the IGN guys were probably idiots.
This has confirmed it.
Joe isn't a character. The man is rarely angry outside certain issues (like Xbone DRM) and its just a name.
I'm not sure why this thread is still alive. It's not like we're waiting on these guys to give a press conference.
Being an entertainer is a "real job". He do have bosses at the end of day and that's the public. If people stop watching him, he lose money. Sure he cant be "fired" like non freelancers, but he still have to put out work out for the public to consume or else he do not get paid.
Just because he's not censored and in constant fear of being fired for misspeaking, do not mean it's not a real job. It's new type of work created by how easy it is for anybody with a webcam to just go out there and do critique.
I have no problems with YouTubers. Yahtzee is a brilliant journalist, and I also enjoy the Jimquisition by Jim Sterling.
My problem is douchebags like Joe who act completely unprofessional and then start crying and shouting when they get called out on it. Either get your shit straight or be ready for people to call you a jackass, but I'm sure he's used to being called a jackass.
I am sorry but I didn't see Joe refer to himself as a Journalist. So exactly what standard are you holding him up to?
He voices opinions, commentates news, conducts interviews and reviews games for a large audience. He is fulfilling the role of a journalist whether he claims to be one or not.The onus is on you when you expect more than what is presented. I am sorry but I didn't see Joe refer to himself as a Journalist. So exactly what standard are you holding him up to?
Exactly, he is yet another trumped up You Tuber with an angry persona shtick.
Just another name on a list of talentless fools with a web cam trying to leach a living from the people that actually matter in this industry i.e. the developers.
He voices opinions, commentates news, conducts interviews and reviews games for a large audience. He is fulfilling the role of a journalist whether he claims to be one or not.
A debate can continue after an event, even if those directly involved have resolved it. I don't know why you're confused, to be honest.
Which was resolved in like 5 pages, it's just now repeating in cycles.
Angry Joe should do a review of this thread. AJ, make this happen. Lots of potential with this that shouldn't be left unused.
He voices opinions, commentates news, conducts interviews and reviews games for a large audience. He is fulfilling the role of a journalist whether he claims to be one or not.
Exactly, he is yet another trumped up You Tuber with an angry persona shtick.
Just another name on a list of talentless fools with a web cam trying to leach a living from the people that actually matter in this industry i.e. the developers.
There's a couple of wrongs from both sides on this:
- Quoting preview commentary that does not represent the game's final judgement is misrepresentative.
- 8.9 is essentially almost a 9. It's a very high score. Trying to argue otherwise is highly pedantic.
- Angry Joe's constant namecalling and colourful insults during the whole Twitter exchange paints a terrible picture of him. He's the one that needs to grow up.
Another casualty of people acting dumb on Twitter for the whole world to see. Merrhh.
Gotta say, I'm surprised to see certain negative comments against Joe in an exaggerating way. Some of them also explicitly try to say negative things about 'youtubers' as a whole.
It seems to me that some neogaf comments come from the 'journalist' side who dislike and fear 'youtubers'.
case in point!Posting this again in case people are too lazy to read the revious page.
Perhaps IGN shouldn't make such asinine, over zealous quotes pre release and we wouldn't run into this problem.
Like ign.Exactly, he is yet another trumped up You Tuber with an angry persona shtick.
Just another name on a list of talentless fools with a web cam trying to leach a living from the people that actually matter in this industry i.e. the developers.
Gotta say, I'm surprised to see certain negative comments against Joe in an exaggerating way. Some of them also explicitly try to say negative things about 'youtubers' as a whole.
It seems to me that some neogaf comments come from the 'journalist' side who dislike and fear 'youtubers'.
Could someone for the love of all that is good in this world explain to me the difference between an 8.9 and a 9.0?
Exactly, he is yet another trumped up You Tuber with an angry persona shtick.
Just another name on a list of talentless fools with a web cam trying to leach a living from the people that actually matter in this industry i.e. the developers.
I'm going to be one of those people who find flaws in both people with what they said and did.