I haven't seen Mushishi yet (on my to do list), but I completely agree about Haibane Renmei. If it had been half as long, or twice as honest, it would have been fantastic. Not to mention that it's ugly and looks horrible even on DVD (blurry as hell).
Mushishi is nothing like Haibanei Renmei which I also found very boring. Mushishi is almost entirely episodic, and each episode deals with the mushi life forms and how they affect humans in their every day lives. IMO it's one of the best anime I've ever watched and one of the best ever made.
Beyond that they're ugly, often have terrible animation, are offensive, creepy, and cater to the worst sorts of anime fandom, sometimes hiding behind the guise of satire when in fact they are the very worst example of the trash supposedly being satirized, the utterly terrible and often hilarious over the top direction, made even worse when episodes are helmed by people other than Shinbo, mostly trying to ape his style, except that they make it even shittier. I'm not sure what else there is to say. It's all just very very awful.
Gonzo stuff at the least had very little pretension behind the fact that they were producing trash, Shaft is the opposite. Their shit stinks just as much, they just pretend it doesn't, and that kinda makes it worse.
Gundam Wing isn't as bad as people make it out to be, though it's still not good.
Zeta Gundam isn't that much better then Wing.
Treize is the single best Gundam Character since Amuro and Char. His retort to Wufei's final question is still one of the most badass moments in all of anime.
Kaleido Star season 1 is fucking amazing. Season 2 is completely garbage until the last Episode bring back Layla and act like the majority of the shit they shoveled didn't exist.
The OVA is amazing and if Season 2 didn't exist outside of that last Episode it would be the greatest anime of all time.
Heero actually had potentail to be the greatest gundam lead (crazy and a killer) then ended up the absolute worst (Relena's lapdog).
Last Kira as bad as he is actually saved the second half of Destiny and made it slightly more watchable when they started taking screen time away from Shinn.
Mushishi is nothing like Haibanei Renmei which I also found very boring. Mushishi is almost entirely episodic, and each episode deals with the mushi life forms and how they affect humans in their every day lives. IMO it's one of the best anime I've ever watched and one of the best ever made.
Kenji Kamiyama is a hugely overhyped director whose shows are stilted, excessively talky, poorly paced, and utterly devoid of believable human sentiment.
Beyond that they're ugly, often have terrible animation, are offensive, creepy, and cater to the worst sorts of anime fandom, sometimes hiding behind the guise of satire when in fact they are the very worst example of the trash supposedly being satirized, etc. I'm not sure what else there is to say. It's all just very very awful.
Gonzo stuff at the least had very little pretension behind the fact that they were producing trash, Shaft is the opposite. Their shit stinks just as much, they just pretend it doesn't, and that kinda makes it worse.
And Gonzo was one of the most pretentious studios ever, not sure what you're talking about there. They were actually trying to make what they thought was good.
And Gonzo was one of the most pretentious studios ever, not sure what you're talking about there. They were actually trying to make what they thought was good.
Pretentious? I do not think that word means what you think it means. When I hear Gonzo, the first thing that pops into my mind is incompetence, not pretense.
I'm still surprised they managed to squeeze out one of the best shows ever: Welcome to the N.H.K.
-Death Note is an intelligent psychological roller coaster.
-Gurren Lagann episode 11 is a life changing event.
-Elfen Lied is beautiful in its execution of addressing certain themes such as identity and what it means to be human. -Mushishi is boring as hell.
-So is Haibane Renmei for that matter.
-The only good thing Matsuno has ever written is Madworld.
-There is nothing funnier than Sexy Commando in any medium.
-Episodic stuff sucks.
It's still a slow show though. Personally I didn't mind because I found the world of Mushishi to be extremely interesting. The art, music and designs all come together to form a very memorable atmosphere. I can definitely see how someone would be bored by it if they don't care for the premise.
Because what I said goes for every single Shaft show I've ever watched, and I've sampled pretty much all of them (cept for one thats kinda recent, dont remember the name, but it had some blonde girl)
I mean, obviously I haven't watched Nise, beacause after Bake and the PV for Nise...come on.
Pretentious? I do not think that word means what you think it means. When I hear Gonzo, the first thing that pops into my mind is incompetence, not pretense.
I'm still surprised they managed to squeeze out one of the best shows ever: Welcome to the N.H.K.
Pretentious? I do not think that word means what you think it means. When I hear Gonzo, the first thing that pops into my mind is incompetence, not pretense.
Their shows are pretentious because they think they are making something great despite their being incompetent. They show no self-awareness of their own failings.
Because what I said goes for every single Shaft show I've ever watched, and I've sampled pretty much all of them (cept for one thats kinda recent, dont remember the name, but it had some blonde girl)
FLCL is Gainax's best work, hands down. It most embodies what initially drew me to anime: that sense of "Fuck it! we can animate whatever the fuck we feel like animating!" while still being relatable and enjoyable.
Edit: FLCL is an OVA, not Tv Series. What was I thinking?
It's still a slow show though. Personally I didn't mind because I found the world of Mushishi to be extremely interesting. The art, music and designs all come together to form a very memorable atmosphere. I can definitely see how someone would be bored by it if they don't care for the premise though.
Slow is fine with me, as long as it's going somewhere. Haibane Renmei never went anywhere. I guess the journey of the characters was worth it for people that actually enjoyed it, but for me I was begging for anything of any significance to happen by the end of the show. It finally sort of does very close to the end, but not in any way that made me change my opinion of the show overall.
Their shows are pretentious because they think they are making something great despite their being incompetent. They show no self-awareness of their own failings.
Doesn't really sound like you watched Hidamari Sketch or Soredemo, though.
K-ON is the most insulting piece of entertainment ever made, regardless if you are anime fan or a music fan, it is stupid. Even if you like the series, there is no excuse and no defense for the show getting so much about guitars and music wrong, especially when the series is allegedly about guitars and music.
You had false expectations of the series you never bothered to change as you finished it, and you still insist on condemning it for something it never aspired to be. Really, it's almost insulting how you literally missed the intentions of the show.
Slow is fine with me, as long as it's going somewhere. Haibane Renmei never went anywhere. I guess the journey of the characters was worth it for people that actually enjoyed it, but for me I was begging for anything of any significance to happen by the end of the show. It finally sort of does very close to the end, but not in any way that made me change my opinion of the show overall.
They've consistently put out garbage, but hey, the first half of Gurren is legit amazing, pound for pound worth them having produced all the other crap for that to exist.
Samurai Champloo was mediocre at best. It's kind of like Cowboy Bebop, executed with similar competence except without anything that made the earlier anime good (setting, characters, music, entertaining one shot stories that provided some background into something even remotely relevant).
Code Geass doesn't get enough credit for being great. R2 turned into a giant bundle of WTF but it was still better (and significantly more entertaining) than a lot of crap out there.
I hated Eureka 7, I found every single character in Gekkostate unlikable.
Gundam SEED Destiny sucked (no controversy there), but SEED was equally bad.
In Gurren Lagann,
Simon was a terrible leader and Rossiu was right although his actions were ultimately unjustified.
Gosick is probably the worst show I've ever seen, I don't know why I completed it. Un-Go, on the other hand, was pretty good.
And even that had massive problems in the mid segment. The art in some of the late teen episodes gets so bad it borders on surreal.
@AdrianWerner: Not... really? I mean, what shows have you watched dubbed? Because most dubs produced in at least the last 5 years are perfectly competent and watchable at the bare minimum. While I will agree that the standard of voice acting for video games is on the whole slightly higher than that for anime, I don't think the gap is anywhere near as huge as you make it out to be. Also keep in mind that dubbed Japanese stuff will almost inherently sound different from locally-produced content, though the best dubs should (in theory) make it so that you can't tell the difference. Also keep in mind that dubbing is fucking ridiculously hard and this has nothing to do with the talent of the actors involved.
You had false expectations of the series you never bothered to change as you finished it, and you still insist on condemning it for something it never aspired to be. Really, it's almost insulting how you literally missed the intentions of the show.
I'm looking at an old electric guitar I have in my room right now. The strings on it are over 5 years old. They still haven't rusted. Guitar amps do not "feedback" when you unplug them. These are just the sloppy armature errors that can only come from no one having no one on the staff having ever talked to a musician. These are just the two off the top of my head. There isn't any excuse for this shit, so stop trying.
The animation is the worst part of that show. That said, everything from art style (when not sucking), script, screenplay, characters, English dub, and story are so fantastic that I find the failing in the animation forgivable.
Actually, the finest hour of Gainax in the last decade was Takami Akai telling it like it is during the Gurren production, insulting the online fanbase, resulting in him stepping down from the production or whatever
Slayers OVA and Movies are far superior to the TV series.
Kanon and Air; the characters suck and the stories are shit.
The Battle Angel dub was better than the original voice over.
Panty and Stocking is a shitty anime.
It most embodies what initially drew me to anime: that sense of "Fuck it! we can animate whatever the fuck we feel like animating!" while still being relatable and enjoyable.
Yes, FLCL has a lot of crazy nonsense. They made up a bunch of shit on the spot (Like Canti, he wasn't originally a TV head. ). But saying that's all FLCL consists of is kind of missing the forest for the trees. FLCL is at its core a coming of age tale about a 14 yo school boy. That's it. And that portion of the show is executed extremely well and imo the incoherent nonsense mixes in quite well with the main themes of adolescence, alienation, etc.
I'm looking at an old electric guitar I have in my room right now. The strings on it are over 5 years old. They still haven't rusted. Guitar amps do not "feedback" when you unplug them. These are just the sloppy armature errors that can only come from no one having no one on the staff having ever talked to a musician. These are just the two off the top of my head. There isn't any excuse for this shit, so stop trying.
