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Apple iPhone 6 [OT]
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I disagree. If the iPhone 6 had a 1080P screen, and a battery as good as the 6 Plus it would have been an incredible upgrade. These are two incredibly important features, especially when you look at how much better the battery is for the 6 Plus, and how every new phone released since last Summer have screen that range from 1080P all the way to 2K.
While the battery life is better than the 5S in some departments it is similar in most. And where it is better, it is literally by an hour. All of your bullet points are far from substantial improvements, maybe that is just my opinion. I feel like the main difference truthfully is just the design.
And to your last statement....while I am an iPhone fan, and far from an Android fanboy, if this new iPhone was waterproof, had wireless charging, and some other features that other phones have...well I think it would be a massive jump to be honest.
I just really like being able to reach any part of the screen easily with one hand. 4.7" is pushing it, it's a bit of a stretch but it's doable. I hope that the thinness and curviness of the devices helps with one handed reachability. The double tap home thing is something I don't want to have to use very often. The world wants big phones, it's a shame that 4" high end phones are pretty much dead now.
I've tried bigger devices before like the Galaxy Nexus and Nexus 4, I didn't like them. That might have to do with the design, materials, thickness and my dislike for Android though. I remember it being a bit of a reach to hit stuff at the top of the screen, it wasn't impossible but it was a stretch and it was annoying.
mingoguaya
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Bro-fist!
This is what I plan to get also. I have to call AT&T to see if they can move my 12 month Next option which is due on October 4th, but I dont see why they wouldn't, knowing that I have 5 lines with them and that the T-Mobile store is in front of them at my local mall and I just need to cross there to get a better deal if they wont budge.
Apple never makes massive jumps, at least not lately and not with the iPhone.
I don't know. I prefered my 4 to my 5. And I have a Note3 for work and it's silly big. Big phones just feel clumsy.
You can disagree all you want, but we are at a point of diminishing returns.
Maybe I am generalizing here, but I know for my parents a bigger phone will end any thoughts about going back to a smaller phone and maybe that's who I think I'm talking about. I agree with to preferring 4 to 5 because after using the 5 for 2 years I can say it is not Apple's best effort. Also the 4/4S is a really beautiful piece of hardware, and still unmatched IMO.
Iacobellis
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The leap between the 5s and 6 seems better than the one between the 4S and the 5.
Almost as good as the jump from 3GS to 4. 😉
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This doesn't work. It isn't considering my resolution, so the 17-inch setting makes Plus too small, the 15-inch setting (my screen size) makes it way too big (like it has a 6.5 inch screen on my monitor now.
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Use the Apple Store official app. Usually has gone live just a few minutes after midnight PST while the site is stuck.
iPhone 4 is my all time favorite hardware design, largely just considering how major good that design was. Glass front and back, antenna/rim of stainless steel, highest res phone display, world's thinnest smartphone. It was gorgeous. Since 5 was a bit derivative of it's shape, it didn't hit the same, nor has 6. But I'm ready for 6, looks great regardless.
It wasn't showing proper sizes for me in Firefox (it was showing the 6 Plus as being slightly bigger than my 5), but it worked just fine in Chrome.
friskykillface
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Hmmm good to know. I'll let my brother know about that
what?
If the res is higher and then downsampled, isn't that gonna look fucking incredible?
Well we'll have to agree to disagree. I haven't given a damn about PPI since the iPhone 4, it's sharp enough for my eyes. What matters to me is contrast ratio and viewing angles which have been improved with the new screen. Yes the battery is marginally better, but I didn't expect some massive jump here, has there ever been a massive jump in battery life from one iPhone gen to another? Waterproof would require little tabs to cover the exposed bits, no thanks. Wireless charging would be cool, but it would add thickness so that's a bit of a tradeoff.
I don't begrudge you for expecting more. I just don't see how the 6 isn't a substantial upgrade over the 5S, every aspect of the phone has been improved in some way. You may look at them and say that they're minor improvements, but they're improvements none the less.
I'm transferring my wife from her 5 over to my 5S. Man I forgot how awesome the icloud restore is. The only thing I had to plug in where her email passwords. So easy.
I still have no interest in a 'phablet', but I'm sure it's a nice phone like the others in the category for people who want that size.
I'll be going with the 6. Improved screen, A8 and new GPU, improved camera and better battery life are all in line with what I expected. I'm sure the OIS and even bigger battery is nice, but it's not a trade off I want to make.
I've been looking at it today. My problem is that the device service fee + the phone payment - the mobile share 'discount' = more than I'm paying a month now. I don't get how it's an advantage to me over just paying the cost on a regular 2 year contract. Obviously off contract is the best route but I'm not really looking to pay that much up front.
Hmm. Are you on any sort of mobile share plan or just a single line?
I still have no interest in a 'phablet', but I'm sure it's a nice phone like the others in the category for people who want that size.
I'll be going with the 6. Improved screen, A8 and new GPU, improved camera and better battery life are all in line with what I expected. I'm sure the OIS and even bigger battery is nice, but it's not a trade off I want to make.
I've been looking at it today. My problem is that the device service fee + the phone payment - the mobile share 'discount' = more than I'm paying a month now. I don't get how it's an advantage to me over just paying the cost on a regular 2 year contract. Obviously off contract is the best route but I'm not really looking to pay that much up front.
Hmm. Are you on any sort of mobile share plan or just a single line?
Fatal Futanari
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I'm sitting here, with my Note 2, reading this thread, getting hyped, might do something rash like order a 6+ 64GB off contract. So if I want to do that for Verizon, best place would be Apple.com?
Waterproof capability and wireless charging would have been far, far better than the battery life and the higher resolution screen, IMO. Also a sapphire screen. That shit looks insanely durable.
Antiwhippy
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Why shouldn't they go with 1080p? It's a perfectly good resolution at that size.
Next is a much better value depending on your corporate discount too if you have one. For me I get more than I did before on a standard 2 year contract plan. So I'm on next, paying less, have an extra gig of data per month and can change every 12 months...sounds like a win to me.
twozerotwo
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Decided I'm gonna open a new line and order directly from Verizon and have it shipped.
I work Friday and I don't wanna deal with having to go to either store after work.
I work Friday and I don't wanna deal with having to go to either store after work.
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Be happy because it probably saved money and also IT'S A RETINA DISPLAY. You can't even see the pixels without looking for them anyway.
The 6+ has to downscale a 3x retina res, the 6 doesn't have to do that because it maintains the 2x retina res PPI, just more pixels.
Yes that might impact performance. I don't like the fact that iOS and the Apps that run on it are going to be rendered at a higher res and down sampled on the 6+. That's actually a big knock against it IMO.
Actually I don't think they were able to get the custom resolution screen they wanted.
The iPhone 6+ renders at 2208 x 1242 (3x) and then rather clumsily downscales to the 1080p screen. Essentially this means that there are 736 x 414 physical points for app designers and they use a 3x3 pixel arrangement for these points. All in all app designers are not happy they don't have exact control over the pixels because of this after downscaling. The retina 'magic' first introduced with the iPhone 4 was done by leaving the number of physical points the same as on the original iPhone but instead using a 2x2 pixel (instead of 1 pixel) arrangement allowing for double the resolution at a single physical location.
As for being faster its really not gonna matter in most applications because you need to consider physical points (the iPhone 6 has 667 x 375 physical points vs the iPhone 6+'s 736 x 414 physical points) which is not as large a divide as the resolution would imply. Also all physical elements (like buttons) will be 6% larger on the 6+.
Are the performance knocks that come from pushing that many more pixels worth it? Is the difference really noticeable to warrant that trade off? I'm seriously asking because I use an iPhone 5 and never have felt like it would be a significantly better experience with a higher PPI.
That's exactly what it is. It's a fine deal. I don't know why some people shit on it.
Their reduced plan pricing for people off contract is a vast improvement over what they were before. It gets to be in 'actual good deal' territory if you have multiple lines. I pay less than a Straight Talk plan and I get more data and roaming!
LyleLanley
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Damn it, this is making me think I might actually be able to use a 6+
HUELEN10
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Do we have an actual source for this?
Yes, http://stackoverflow.com/questions/...-resolution-confusion-xcode-or-apples-website
Also a better explanation of how it works: https://medium.com/@brucewangsg/the-curious-case-of-iphone-6-1080p-display-b33dac5bbcb6
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Same. I've compared screens around and just feel like I wouldn't mind, but I'd hardly notice.
The whole point of Retina branding was that they tested it and picked the custom resolution at which viewers failed to distinguish and perceive individual pixels at normal viewing distances. As long as it still does that, it's very solid.
HUELEN10
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Still flipping between the 6 and the 6+, and all I come across are people who are making the jump to the bigger phone...anyone sticking to the 4.7"? Lol
Still trying to find an article where someone mentions whether or not the screen on the 6 is not as good looking than the 6+. Most just comment about the size, but that's it. I haven't seen anyone say that the Plus looks sharper than the 6.
So what color is everyone going for? I've always gotten the black iPhones, but this time I was considering the white version for a change. I have a lot of photos on my phone, so I was wondering how it would affect looking at them.
Still trying to find an article where someone mentions whether or not the screen on the 6 is not as good looking than the 6+. Most just comment about the size, but that's it. I haven't seen anyone say that the Plus looks sharper than the 6.
So what color is everyone going for? I've always gotten the black iPhones, but this time I was considering the white version for a change. I have a lot of photos on my phone, so I was wondering how it would affect looking at them.
krackerjack
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In some videos, gold looks great. In others, space grey looks great. Arghhhhhh
I still have an iPhone 4 I got late summer 2010. I've never personally upgraded my phone or plan (only on a family plan previously and I didn't deal with bill) so all the fine print is headache-inducing. I'm almost certain I'll just renew my contract with the current plan and get the 64GB 6.
Thanks for all the videos and tools to evaluate phone sizes. I was pretty set on the 6 until a few hours ago when I started reading about the Plus. Now that I've thought it through, I'll probably stay with the regular 6, as I think the Plus would be too cumbersome to use.
Thanks for all the videos and tools to evaluate phone sizes. I was pretty set on the 6 until a few hours ago when I started reading about the Plus. Now that I've thought it through, I'll probably stay with the regular 6, as I think the Plus would be too cumbersome to use.
WordAssassin
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Holy FUCK the 6 Plus is ENORMOUS. I had to double check their iPhone 5 size with mine to make sure it was giving me the right size on my screen. I knew it would be big but I didn't expect THAT big.
I'm almost rethinking my purchase now O__O; Dunno if I'm man enough for dat 5.5.
Very helpful. Seeing this and hearing about the scaling, now I'm definitely going with a 6, regardless of RAM.
Iacobellis
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He's just questioning as to why Apple finally went with a common resolution for one of their mobile devices. I think it's the first time they've ever done that, at least for the iPhone.
And to those saying the 3GS to 4 wasn't a big leap, yes it was. We got a thinner chassis made of aluminum and glass, the new A4 chip, boost in RAM to 512MB, vastly improved display using IPS technology with a quadrupled resolution and better contrast ratio, front camera, new rear 5MP camera that also recorded 720p video, a second microphone for noise canceling, and FaceTime. Plus, it was the first device fully optimized to run iOS 4, which was a major software update that started to really tackle the features that made jailbreaking a near necessity in the early days of the iPhone. Steve literally went out with a bang with that being his last iPhone to reveal.
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Yeah, got that site working and it's like as big as my face. 6 in Space Grey 64gb here I come.
I believe you can change it, but its down right now so I'm not sure.
Lol I am looking at it on my iPad screen and it feels like it is half the size of the iPad.
Yet at the same time the 6 feels small and inconsequential because of that.
A4 chip was the same CPU core (Cortex A8) and GPU (PowerVR SGX535) as the 3GS, just clocked a bit higher and with more RAM. It was the iPad 3 A5X of its time. Yes, the display was new and beautiful, but much like the iPad 3, some things actually ran worse than the 3GS because of the resolution bump without a sufficient bump in hardware capability. And the 3GS ran iOS 4 absolutely fine.
The design was great, the display was beautiful, and the camera improvements were very welcome, but I'd hardly say it was a tremendous leap forward.