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Automotive Discussion Thread | OT3 | Playing with our sticks while petting Jaguars!

v1lla21

Member
Ok asking for a friend:

VW Jetta '16 TSI. Has feats like leather seats, Blindside, etc

Is this a good purchase for a basic commuter (drive to work and back)
The jetta is a great car. Will he be buying it new or used? Easy car to live with. What trim is it?

Finally picking up my car later today. It was a long week without it.
 
The jetta is a great car. Will he be buying it new or used? Easy car to live with. What trim is it?

Finally picking up my car later today. It was a long week without it.

Errr TSI 1.8 used 1500 km only

Highline

Has leather seats, safety features, power mode seats, etc

Navi, blibdspot, etc

Stone guards everywhere

Were at the dealership right now

$29000 canadian total
 
Oh. The PenFed loan is a secured loan and the paperwork clearly states this loan puts a lien on the purchased vehicle. On second thought, I don't need this hassle. I did find Lightstream.com and they offered me 2.19% for an unsecured loan so I'll just go with that. I'm cool with my donation, the US Government can keep the 17 bucks, I don't mind supporting the military lol

I am surprised they are giving you such a low interest rage on an unsecured loan! The majority of auto loans are secured loans with a lien on the title (unless something has changed recently that I am not aware of). They just mail you a lien clearance once payment is done.
 

v1lla21

Member
Errr TSI 1.8 used 1500 km only

Highline

Has leather seats, safety features, power mode seats, etc

Navi, blibdspot, etc

Stone guards everywhere

Were at the dealership right now

$29000 canadian total
Is that 29k after taxes and everything? They go for $28.5k brand new for 2017 model.
That's a lot imo. See if he can get negotiate it down.
 
Vw doesn't offer a lot of upgrades to trims so I don't see why they are saying 40k unless there's a dealer markup on the Jetta. Lol.

Im seeing $32K on the build site for 2017 with leather and tech. Thats not with ontario tax

He says its $38K total, so including tax...
 

v1lla21

Member
Im seeing $32K on the build site for 2017 with leather and tech

He says its $38K total, so including tax
Ah okay I thought you were saying $40k before taxes and whatnot. Try to negotiate it down a bit more anyways if your buddy really wants the car
 
Ah okay I thought you were saying $40k before taxes and whatnot. Try to negotiate it down a bit more anyways if your buddy really wants the car

So $29K total for 2016 with leather and tech seems pretty good?

Friend dont want a honda because of the rear view and im not sure why we're skipping the corolla


Thanks so much dude, ill catch u on psn sometime:p
 

v1lla21

Member
So $29K total for 2016 with leather and tech seems pretty good?

Friend dont want a honda because of the rear view and im not sure why we're skipping the corolla


Thanks so much dude, ill catch u on psn sometime:p
I guess after taxes and stuff Yeah. What's the apr at?
 
Correct, test drive will answer all.
I went to the Ford dealership today and checked out an RS. They had a $10,000 dealership markup addendum on it. The price they wanted was $50,675 + tax/fees.

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Thanks everyone for all your various help!!

Im so excited. And now Im a bit of a auto fan as Im eagerly looking forward to future models and looking up history of automobiles.

Maybe I should get around to watching those Fast and Furious movies...
 

AlphaSnake

...and that, kids, was the first time I sucked a dick for crack
Thanks everyone for all your various help!!

Im so excited. And now Im a bit of a auto fan as Im eagerly looking forward to future models and looking up history of automobiles.

Maybe I should get around to watching those Fast and Furious movies...

You need to get an Amazon Prime account and watch Top Gear. A lot of Top Gear. It's an entertaining way to get into cars.

You can also start with James May's Cars of the People. It's an absolutely amazing 6 part series that'll basically take you to day 1 and the historical context is simply phenomenal in that it ties the wars and world history into the mass production of automobiles.

It's probably the best place to start, the more I think about it.
 
You need to get an Amazon Prime account and watch Top Gear. A lot of Top Gear. It's an entertaining way to get into cars.

You can also start with James May's Cars of the People. It's an absolutely amazing 6 part series that'll basically take you to day 1 and the historical context is simply phenomenal in that it ties the wars and world history into the mass production of automobiles.

It's probably the best place to start, the more I think about it.

Thanks! Will do.

I bet there are all kinds of neat books too, with pictures and all that. I am slowly discovering a new hobby
 
Not bad

Haha yeah right, that's crazy!
There's someone who works close to where I live that drives a gray RS and it looks beautiful.

Don't tell the people who buy it that the Cayman starts at $56k and change
The slimey ass salesman was bragging that he sold a GT350 for $130,000 a few weeks earlier.

That's about a $70,000 dealership markup IIRC. This dealership is pretty disgusting, and I don't plan on ever going back.
 
^^^ I get that everything is worth what someone will pay for it, but no measure of market demand should make a new GT350 worth $130,000.

-5.) absurd amount of rev hang, especially in gears 1 > 2 > 3. Basically when you push in the clutch to shift, the RPM doesn't drop for about 2 seconds. This was added for emissions and really feels like shit to drive with.

This is absolutely the worst thing about modern vehicles equipped with manual transmissions. The disconnect between the gas pedal and the engine makes sporty driving an absolute chore. Is it better for economy? Of course, but when the engine does things I don't want or expect it to do it ruins the driving experience.

Having a car with a cable actuated throttle and no economy measures spoils you big time. Going from my '82 911 to my girlfriend's '13 Jetta with manual is a quick way to insanity.
 

golem

Member
You can also start with James May's Cars of the People. It's an absolutely amazing 6 part series that'll basically take you to day 1 and the historical context is simply phenomenal in that it ties the wars and world history into the mass production of automobiles.

It's probably the best place to start, the more I think about it.
Oh yeah that is a great series, definitely worth a watch
 

J-Rzez

Member
I went to the Ford dealership today and checked out an RS. They had a $10,000 dealership markup addendum on it. The price they wanted was $50,675 + tax/fees.

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Welcome to my personal hell when I was buying. It took a while but found one no ADM. Its easier now to find them no mark up than before though. But wow at that mustang sale if true. Someone with too much money and no brain.
 
The slimey ass salesman was bragging that he sold a GT350 for $130,000 a few weeks earlier.

That's about a $70,000 dealership markup IIRC. This dealership is pretty disgusting, and I don't plan on ever going back.

bull. maybe a gt350r a year ago but not a gt350 a few weeks ago.
 

Cowie

Member
911 Rental, Day One:

I want a 911.


also, cheers to tryptobphan, the GTS Routes app put me onto a fantastic winding little route near me.
 

matmanx1

Member
I am surprised they are giving you such a low interest rage on an unsecured loan! The majority of auto loans are secured loans with a lien on the title (unless something has changed recently that I am not aware of). They just mail you a lien clearance once payment is done.

Yeah I've never heard of an auto loan that didn't put a lien on the title. They all work that way from what I understand. Are you sure the other place isn't doing the same thing but somehow has it worded differently?

Every auto loan that I have ever done the bank keeps the title until such time as I have paid off the loan in full or traded the car in (in which case the dealership pays off the note and the bank sends the title to them in your stead).
 

Pinewood

Member
sounds about right although if you shop around you can probably find a cheaper one. Different brands will be at different prices but it really depends on what you want it to sound like. What do you currently drive?

It depends a lot on the car. If it's a high volume car, $1000 might not be a bad price, if it's a low volume car $1000 might get you a muffler and nothing else.

Try not to buy too cheap a muffler, though, there are lots out there that just make your car louder without improving the tone, and some that just make cars sound like shit. There are probably lots of videos out there to research.

I drive a 2011 1.4 Giulietta. From what Ive read on the exhaust, it seems to get a lot of positive feedback. The guy who designs these supposedly works on exhausts for exotic cars by day plus they specialise on exhausts for Alfa Romeos(wizard exhausts).

Im probably not going to get anything before the summer but cant go wrong with getting to know your options beforehand.
 
So do most of you folks own fancy/sporty cars? Like the 2 door cars or the ones focused on engines over back seat space, trunk space, etc?

Are most of you single or have a family and buy family vehicles?
 

Futaba

Member
So do most of you folks own fancy/sporty cars? Like the 2 door cars or the ones focused on engines over back seat space, trunk space, etc?

Are most of you single or have a family and buy family vehicles?

I've several, nothing too expensive though, mostly drift-spec, an 86 DD, and some older stuff, married with a family =)

Wife owns a crazy evo, too.
 

v1lla21

Member
I drive a 2011 1.4 Giulietta. From what Ive read on the exhaust, it seems to get a lot of positive feedback. The guy who designs these supposedly works on exhausts for exotic cars by day plus they specialise on exhausts for Alfa Romeos(wizard exhausts).

Im probably not going to get anything before the summer but cant go wrong with getting to know your options beforehand.
Oh okay Yeah good exhausts cost good money. Lol. I think im gonna get another Borla catback again. Seen em on special a lot recently or hope someone parts out and gets rid of it.
 
So do most of you folks own fancy/sporty cars? Like the 2 door cars or the ones focused on engines over back seat space, trunk space, etc?

Are most of you single or have a family and buy family vehicles?

I'm single, but I also have more than one car. My everyday car is a 4 door volvo. But I also have a 240sx for a race car. Well, and 4 additional other project cars.
 
Cool stuff :)


So I was checking out my accord sitting in the car lot

I noticed one of the axels (or the steel behind the rim) is TOTALLY rusted. Dont notice such rust on any other car

Is that okay?

And the door is strangely unlocked but I guess thats fine as it sits in a gated lot of sold cars
 
Cool stuff :)


So I was checking out my accord sitting in the car lot

I noticed one of the axels (or the steel behind the rim) is TOTALLY rusted. Dont notice such rust on any other car

Is that okay?

And the door is strangely unlocked but I guess thats fine as it sits in a gated lot of sold cars

Is it the brake rotor that looks like that?
 

Futaba

Member
Its just behind the rim

Its a circle thing..
like this?
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if its just brown, it'll clean up with use, if the surface looks like brown asphalt, it's probably been sat on the lot for years.

To be clear for pretty much any steel rotor, it'll go brown within hours/days of rain or washing unless it's a hot enough day that the water dries up - couple stops later and it'll be fine. - If it's REALLY bad though, take wheel off and take a mild wire brush to it, and get most of it off before you drive, means less rust-dust gets thrown around your calipers.
 

Futaba

Member
yeah thats normal, the lighter one will clean up within 5 min of driving, the harsher brown one will clean up with driving too, but personally i'd wire brush it off.

Nothing too out of the ordinary there though.

I'd say judging from those pictures it hasn't been moved for about 4 months or more - there's not a single linear scratch in the rust layer on those fronts, use that to your advantage if you try to buy it - mention that you've been seeing it on the lot fairly often over the past few months and finally stopped by to check it out - seller will realize you know they cant shift it and be more open to flexibility on price.
 

rokkerkory

Member
Okay guys I might want to get an 981 Boxster GTS now. :)

It's about 7-8k more used but comes with so many goodies the S should have had.

It's way to much bank now as it's still too new and depreciation hasn't really hit it yet. Once the new 718 GTS hits perhaps.
 
So do most of you folks own fancy/sporty cars? Like the 2 door cars or the ones focused on engines over back seat space, trunk space, etc?

Are most of you single or have a family and buy family vehicles?

I am married with two kids and currently own a Mazdaspeed 6. Before that I had an E36 BMW M3. Both are four doors, which is basically required for me at this point in my life.

The Mazda is pretty awesome though. Been putting quite a few mods in it lately, including a new Corksport turbo back exhaust last week. It sounds awesome now.

My requirement for cars are: four doors, manual and fun to drive. You would be surprised how hard that can be to find on a budget.
 

rokkerkory

Member
So do most of you folks own fancy/sporty cars? Like the 2 door cars or the ones focused on engines over back seat space, trunk space, etc?

Are most of you single or have a family and buy family vehicles?

I am engaged and have:
- 2017 mazda 3 hatch for daily driving
- 2011 e92 m3 for weekend / track
- need drop top next (see s2000 or boxster)

Mix of being practical and fun me thinks.
 
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