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Batman vs. Daredevil: A popularity contest
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Mighty Chin
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Ill say it Batman Fucking Sucks
And I never said he wasnt. I was saying he was popular for the wrong reasons. You think he would still be popular as he is today if o'neal, adams, and miller didn't come in to rectify what adam west show had done?
The Nolan trilogy laughs at you =P
Only Joker was well known villain there. But now because they appeared in movies, they are well known now
Grassclipper
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You take that back! Stilt-Man is awesome. Also, I haven't read that much Daredevil but I vastly prefer him over Batman.
No way. A lot of batman's nemesis were known way before the nolan trilogy by your average audience. And the point I was making was that those villains are incredibly creative and they allow themselves to create the lore of batman which makes batman even more popular to your average comic book reader and your average citizen.
never gave a shit about DD before..
tried reading Mark Waid's current run on him and... one of my favorite superheroes now
Yeah. I've liked Daredevil since I was a kid and had a few of his comics from the 90's (when he had that shitty armour costume), but I never read too much of his stuff until Mark Waid's run and fuck is it good. When I catch up I plan on going back and reading more classic Daredevil material 'cause I too love him now.
Joker, Catwoman and Two Face are like his most popular villains. Not sure what you are talking about. Even Ra's, Scarecrow and Bane were pretty well known. All have shown up numerous times in the 5000 Batman TV series and video games.
Schweinehund
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Not a whole lot of people can associate with a blind dude.
Batman's story is compelling and has psychological implications, he isn't superhuman, his costume is much better than daredevil's and his rogue's gallery shits all over DD's.
That and batman has been around for a long ass time.
edit: I think marvel should promote Black Panther over DD. I think there could be an audience with him. I'd love to see it.
Batman's story is compelling and has psychological implications, he isn't superhuman, his costume is much better than daredevil's and his rogue's gallery shits all over DD's.
That and batman has been around for a long ass time.
edit: I think marvel should promote Black Panther over DD. I think there could be an audience with him. I'd love to see it.
Rodney McKay
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I think it's because more people want to BE Batman than Daredevil.
Batman is ultra rich, gets to bang super models as part of his "cover," gets to fly a jet, has a rocket powered car, and a million other badass gadgets to beat up badguys with. Downside is that his PARENT ARE DEAD!!! That's definitely a bummer but hey, it happens to everybody eventually.
Daredevil is a lawyer who has enhanced senses and is acrobatic.
Downside is that he's blind. Even with sonar hearing I don't even want to IMAGINE myself being blind.
You are so wrong. Daredevil had one of the best runs ever. From Miller, Smith,Bendis and Brubaker were truly amazing!
thoroughly disagree. Batman's costume is dull.
At this rate, I think this is a popular opinion on GAF.
For the record, I love Batman.
Because...
The Batman:
Batman The Animated Series:
TDK Trilogy:
And then:
Daredevil:
That was easy. It was missing the original Adam West Batman and still made it's point.
Tatsumaki Senpuukyaku!
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Batman had a 30 year headstart
Daredevil is also seen by most people who aren't hardcore comic book fans as a lesser version of batman since batman pretty much invented the archetype for the street level super hero
Daredevil is also seen by most people who aren't hardcore comic book fans as a lesser version of batman since batman pretty much invented the archetype for the street level super hero
You know what it's funny cause even when I saw him in like a cameo on the 90's fantastic four cartoon he was relatively useless and just got beat up. So bad.
Daredevil was pretty much ruined by that movie. Terrible terrible flick.
I don't think that the headstart matters as much as it used to. Daredevil has been around for just shy of 50 years now. Other than senior citizens, everyone had the potential to be exposed to him when they were growing up. What he lacks is the wealth of media exposure that Batman has received, especially in the past 25 years.
Batman has appeared more in TV, Comics, Games and overall has better publicity. He's also more "cooler" and more "kid-friendly" compared too Daredevil. Go ask a kid which one you like more and they'll probably say Batman.
Also that Daredevil movie was not good which pretty much killed any incentive to further work with him outside of comics.
Also that Daredevil movie was not good which pretty much killed any incentive to further work with him outside of comics.
I wanna know why they can't remaking Arkham City and call it something like Hell's Kitchen. It's like Marvel doesn't want money. Just have a kickass story, decent martial arts and bolo whip-based combat, an enhanced predator mode and if will print more money than the Kingpin launders.
Because...
The Batman:
LOL what a terrible poster
Because you could take that same game, switch out Daredevil for Spider-man, and sell 10x the copies.
You mean people wouldn't want a movie where Daredevil's ex-junkie, ex-pornstar, AIDS infected girlfriend gets killed in a Catholic church with Daredevil's own weapon while he watches?
comedy bomb
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Marvel recently said "they got the rights back, but want to let them air out for awhile." That coupled with statements that they have a rough outline of movies through 2021 or so, I don't see one coming anytime soon.
Daredevil needs a really focused trilogy to work IMO.
that too
Spring-Loaded
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Aside from the more obvious possibilities, the general public doesn't have to follow comics to appreciate Batman like they would for Daredevil. Because fuck comics.
I can't recall any moments of the top of my head. But you have a character created by and written by Stan Lee. I'd bet serious currency there are tonnes of examples of irony related to Daredevil's blindness.
Compared to Batman's? They're about on par.
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Deleted member 231381
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Daredevil suffers from having one of the shittiest rogues galleries in comicdom and often has to borrow other Marvel characters' rogues in order to do well. Meanwhile, Batman has the best rogues gallery in comicdom. The Joker himself is better known than most other superheroes, never mind their villains.
Zen_Arcade
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I like Daredevil more then Batman. But everyone has already covered why Batman is more popular. He's had better exposure.
Nah. Daredevil would win...???? The oppression Olympics too. Mild DD spoilers over tonnes of DD stories:
He depending on what canon you go for never knew his mother.
His dad died as a kid
Lost his eyesight.
Catwoman scratches Batman and occasionally steals shit from him. Elektra has tried to kill him tonnes of times.
She keeps dying and coming back
Has had a gf die. Not comic book death but proper death
Went to jail
Had his secret identity revealed
Wife was imprisoned for killing a woman
Lazy vs Crazy
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Daredevil is the best major superhero comic over the past decade plus. Since Bendis took over in 2001 it has been consistently great. Not just good, but great. And at times it's been better than great. Anyone interested in superhero comics needs to read it, because it's really the best of the genre.
The character deserves a film reboot.
The character deserves a film reboot.
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Deleted member 13876
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Handicapable man sees degenerate girlfriend die. You almost described Forrest Gump.
Fuck a film reboot a TV series. You can focus on either Murdock or Daredevil and that's something I really like about DD. Bruce Wayne can't hold a story by himself whilst Murdock has had stories where DD barely appears. A good example of which is David Hine's Daredevil: Redemption which is one of the most realistic comics you will ever read. It's pretty much legally accurate.
Devolution
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Daredevil was campy shit in all the wrong ways.
DonasaurusRex
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batman has a ..what 30 year head start of DD, by then he was one of the most popular comics of all time and had that goofy tv show that generations loved for ...whatever it was. How can daredevil compare? He has had multiple great runs, and the man without fear...mmm so good but meh he's not gonna be the public eye guy till he gets a show *HBO !!!!!* or hit movie but i dont think a hit movie would do it either , a show yes.
Sho_Nuff82
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But seriously though, even amongst the casual comic fans here on gaf, you would be hard pressed to find any mentions of big events that revolve around Daredevil. Where was he during WW Hulk? Secret Invasion? Civil War? X-Men/Avengers? The chosen?
Marvel hasn't bothered to give him a push in ages, why should the average person care?
Marvel hasn't bothered to give him a push in ages, why should the average person care?
WanderingWind
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Married a blind woman who left him, then became mentally incapacitated for a while.
Has his best friend killed in front of him.
His one true love became addicted to heroin, became a sleazy porn star, sold his identity to his worst enemy, then came back clean, only to leave his ass shortly before being killed by the same guy who killed his college girlfriend.
Had his entire law firm shut down, effectively making him homeless for a while.
Went all Punisher because of a demonic influence, took over Hell's Kitchen and had his ass whupped by his buddies.
Since he's in the business of law, he's helped several ex-villains become productive members of society. They all go back to their ways and try to kill him, mocking him for being a failure. Then they usually die in front of him.
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Deleted member 13876
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Slow burn HBO series would be the best venue for the character. Could totally work, and wouldn't be very high budget to make it look decent.
As others have pointed out, it's because Batman has always had a much bigger media presence outside of comics. Daredevil has only appeared in a couple of cartoons, a Hulk tv movie, and pretty average/kinda bad cinematic release.
Daredevil doesn't need a new movie, he needs his own television show. Lawyer by day semi-procedural format would be perfect for the character. Batman has never had a serious modern tv show (live action), and it's one area where Daredevil could actually beat him to the punch for a change.
Daredevil doesn't need a new movie, he needs his own television show. Lawyer by day semi-procedural format would be perfect for the character. Batman has never had a serious modern tv show (live action), and it's one area where Daredevil could actually beat him to the punch for a change.
WanderingWind
Mecklemore Is My Favorite Wrapper
Man, that would be awesome. Crime fighter by day, crime fighter by night. His entire life is relationship drama and kicking people in the face that deserve it. Kingpin is the big bad who masterminds all the assassins, super-villians and legal challenges that Murdock faces. The season 2 cliffhanger would be Karen selling him his personal info.
Man. I would watch the SHIT out of this show.
John Dunbar
correct about everything
i liked how big the movie made jennifer garner's boobs look.
And Waids current run of Daredevil is amazing. Enjoy it more than any current running Batman series. Daredevil has had a good selection of writers writing him for decades.
You mean the movie, right?
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