Yeah, I was going to include that but didn't want to have too many pictures. I could have also posted the Arkham games as well.
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Batman vs. Daredevil: A popularity contest
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Yeah, I was going to include that but didn't want to have too many pictures. I could have also posted the Arkham games as well.
Ultimately, what needs to happen to Daredevil is what happened to Iron Man. A lot of people forget that Iron Man wasn't exactly a AAA tier super hero in the Marvel comics. The combination of Robert Downey Jr., and a fun script helped catapult Iron Man to the top of the class.
Daredevil needs a great actor that fits the part, and a fun script that highlights why he's such a cool character. I love Daredevil, and think Matt's a much cooler character than Bruce (although I do love Batman as well), but his sole movie effort was just terrible.
With that said, I can't think of who I'd have cast for Matt. There was a time when I thought Matt Damon would have been great for the part, but Affleck had to have it instead. I think you'd have to cast a talented known actor, instead of a no name, as much as I hate to say it (I tend to really like unknowns that come in and kill a performance, but if you want to make Daredevil huge, go with a known quantity). I'd to with a mid to late 30's to early 40's actor, personally.
Daredevil needs a great actor that fits the part, and a fun script that highlights why he's such a cool character. I love Daredevil, and think Matt's a much cooler character than Bruce (although I do love Batman as well), but his sole movie effort was just terrible.
With that said, I can't think of who I'd have cast for Matt. There was a time when I thought Matt Damon would have been great for the part, but Affleck had to have it instead. I think you'd have to cast a talented known actor, instead of a no name, as much as I hate to say it (I tend to really like unknowns that come in and kill a performance, but if you want to make Daredevil huge, go with a known quantity). I'd to with a mid to late 30's to early 40's actor, personally.
Daredevil works better as a solo, lower-key character.
They did do Shadowland in 2010 though. It wasn't as big as Civil War, but it was still a crossover event with ~25 tie-in issues. Daredevil was the central character in that.
foxuzamaki
Doesn't read OPs, especially not his own
Because...
The Batman:
Batman The Animated Series:
TDK Trilogy:
And then:
Daredevil:
Nice and concise. Beyond that Daredevil isn't much of a fantasy unlike Batman. As others have noted, being Daredevil sucks.
Megadragon15
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They should have The Little Wise Guys appear with Daredevil. Oops. Wrong Daredevil.
If i could get my way this is what i'd do:
I'd do it not as a film but as a TV series. I want it to be fairly dark. In a perfect world as dark as legal dramas like Damages but Marvel have no balls so that would be unlikely and would probably want something that can be shown before the 9PM watershed
Have an unknown or a TV actor that can be physically active
That said they can probably put a stunt man who can do martial arts and allow all kinds of kung fu shit rather than the main actor if need be.
First start off with Frank Miller's Man Without Fear or even the Battlin Jack Murdock story.
The first two seasons or even just the first Season can be Miller and and Kevin Smith's run
Second/Third season can be Bendis' run. Verbatim.
That's about 3 seasons of stuff there. Then you can do some Agents of Shield shit for the odd episode.
Then some Brubaker to finish it off.
You can focus a lot on Matt. Love interests left, right and Centre, comedy from Foggy, chance to follow the Superhero stuff on some episodes, opportunities to have a great legal drama. I'd look forward to the point when they reveal Matt's Identity to the public and the weekly drama that could lead to. From bomb threats to clients being excited or scared to being defended by a blind superhero. Hell i have only just started talking about the drama related to his blindness.
No way, DD's catch shit hard and super personal. Mysterio killed the parents of a 16 year old girl, brainwashed her and impregnated her to start his plan to fuck with Daredevil.
And that is the tip of the iceberg.
LiveFromKyoto
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I love Batman, but Daredevil's story is a lot more interesting than Bats'. They both fight crime because of murdered parents, but the Waynes' death is random and meaningless outside of 'crime is bad.' Jack Murdock dies as a result of his own failures as a man, but inspires his son to greatness in overcoming them even though it means his death. That message - fall down six times, get up seven, has always stuck with me in my life since reading Man Without Fear, maybe my favourite thing that Frank Miller ever wrote.
And while Bruce Wayne just gets pissed off and turns himself into Batman using his vast resources, Matt Murdock has to struggle with his own insecurity, helplessness, poverty and disability. He doesn't even see his own potential until Stick beats it into him. Batman is about victory through force of will, Daredevil is about overcoming terrible mental hardship.
And while he doesn't have Bats' rogues gallery (nobody does), Kingpin, Bullseye, Elektra, the Hand make for a pretty damn good mythos.
It's much better than the theatric cut.
DareDevil, I feel is a better character but the movie was so bad and I don't think they'll do it right. To do him right, it needs to be very dark and a very Catholic movie. I hope it happens.
Tatsumaki Senpuukyaku!
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I think you're greatly underselling Batman.
And he has a day job.
Supermanisdead
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Daredevil has always been the better character!
When in Zeus was this? Before Kevin Smith?
Kevin wrote it.
Spike Spiegel
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Whenever I hear "Batman vs Daredevil" this exchange now immediately springs to mind:
Hmmm...
LowerLevel
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you take that back!
I actually agree with you...
Murdock is always the man despite the shit he goes through
WanderingWind
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And he works for a living. Batman can eat it.
Was this during the Guardian Devil story arc? I don't remember the Mysterio pregnancy thing.
Tatsumaki Senpuukyaku!
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comes off as a writer desperately trying to prove why daredevil is "cooler" than batman and as a result taking me out of the story
WanderingWind
Mecklemore Is My Favorite Wrapper
Yeah, plus, Daredevil started by wearing his dad's old boxing gear (the yellow costume) and constantly references his dad's death as a reason for why he fights for justice so hard. And specifically how he became a lawyer. I thought I'd read every Daredevil issue out, but hell if I can tell where this is from. Guessing the 90s?
Ephemeris
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Yes, where do you think the baby came from?
not psycho
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The key word is "only." Daredevil isn't allowing himself to believe that due to his loss he is better than others or that he can automatically look down on their dedication. The reason he gets so mad is probably because he has had such thoughts before, and is angry at himself for ever having those thoughts.
He is not even saying that he, personally, wasn't driven by his loss. Just that it isn't the only way.
Tatsumaki Senpuukyaku!
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Coloring looks newer than the 90s. I have no idea though. I'm not as excited about 2000s era DD as most people are, most of the decade was just spent rehashing Frank Millers run. The original Frank Miller run (+born again) and the Mark Waid run are where it's at.
Tatsumaki Senpuukyaku!
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I don't think Batman would disagree with that. His best friend (well, used to be havent read much of the New-52) is Superman and he's definitely motivated by more than just a loss. He's had Robins like Tim Drake who were motivated by more than a loss. He'd definitely be in agreement with Daredevil in that case. It still reads like the writer trying to prove that Daredevil is better than Batman though.
WanderingWind
Mecklemore Is My Favorite Wrapper
Man, the Miller/Waid run was fantastic. I really loved Quesada's art in the Smith run, too. I loved the little touches like his billy cane line being all zig-zaggy. I really, really, really, love the new Daredevil series too.
I think for having a reputation as a B-lister, ol Hornhead has had the best run of differing writers of any comic book on the planet.
I'm pretty sure that was from the recent Punisher/Daredevil/Spider-man crossover. The female is some ex-soldier whose family was killed on her wedding day, and who ends up under the Punisher's wing. Greg Rucka's arc.
not psycho
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Doesn't read that way at all to me.
I didn't read it, but from googling the girl is a recruit by the Punisher. Someone who uses his loss to allow himself to do horrible things. And there is also the subtext of Daredevil fighting against such ideas himself.
Batman is far from the Punisher. Doesn't seem aimed at him.
Zen_Arcade
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I love the idea of Luke and Matt talking and Electras name comes up and Matt just says "Oh man, Luke, if she ever starts something with you just kick her in the twat for me."Daredevil always reminds me of this scene.
WanderingWind
Mecklemore Is My Favorite Wrapper
Where's her scar? And why is she talking like that? Grrr.
I had to look it up, Rucka wrote that issue. It's in Avenging Spider-Man. My jimmies are rustled. That doesn't sound or look like Cole-Alves
Vermillion
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I actually read it about 2-3 years ago, hell I got a copy of the first half of the story signed by Kevin Smith. It's just that it's been years since I touched it and I forgot about it. I let a mate of mine keep the full version of the book(years before I met Kevin Smith) and I regret it. Oh well.
Xplatformer
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I would be behind this 100% btw.
As mentioned before he had almost 2 decades of perfect story telling. This shit was probably some of the most daring shit seem in comics. Spider-Man unmasked himself yet they retconned that shit before lunch, I am almost certain Gwen Stacey came back as a clone or something, meanwhile with daredevil he had a girlfriend that stayed dead, family menbers that stayed dead, he deals with relationship problems left right and centre and struggles with ethical issues related to his legal and extra legal activities and not just Teenage angst from a redhead who gets him all hot and bothered. It's a crying shame the character does not get the recognition he deserves, I'd say I'd want a Nolan adaptation but the thought of the fight scenes and the motion sickness from the almost certain excessive shaky cam fill me with fear.
statham
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roofles
RustyNails
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This is ridiculous. lol
giancarlo123x
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lmao
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