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[ElNarez]

Bret Easton Ellis is a contrarian dipshit who spends most of his time nowadays writing lengthy diatribes about how millenials are wusses because they call out bigotry when they see it, and who, on occasion, defends his shitty fucking friends when they do unconscionable things.

Taking anything he says as true, or even as worthwhile, is done at one's own peril. Fuck Bret Easton Ellis.

 

[tomato shrub]

Are the kneejerk reactions here for real.

 

[Discotheque]

Sounds like a load of shit because affleck still isn't committed on saying he's finished the script in interviews as recently as like a week ago.

Get rid of Geoff Johns on the movie tho, I'm more worried about him than I am Affleck's involvement for sure

Anyways this is the only comic movie I truly give a shit about (guardians 2, Logan, JL are anticipated for sure but I could take it or leave it) so please don't fuck this up lol

Edit: actually seems like the rumor is WB pushing forward without giving them time to fix it. After seeing what happened to suicide squad I'm more inclined to believe that

Fuck that. Don't do that to the batgod. Cinematic universes are a mistake....

 

[mortal]

In my opinion, DC trying to emulate Marvel's Cinematic Universe model was probably a misstep. One of the reasons why the (first two) Nolan Batman films worked was due to them being self contained. They had their own unique creative direction and plot lines.

It's pretty great what Marvel Studios managed to accomplish with adapting super hero comic book stories, culminating in several crossovers, but DC's whole operations feel reactionary.

Neither of the films I've seen so far felt all that engaging or awe inspiring given the subject matter. Very forgettable experiences. I'm not seeing much creative exploration with the super hero motif, or interesting deconstruction or reimaginings.
Even the Justice Leauge and Wonder Woman trailers seem to be more of the same. Despite having enormous budgets, these adaptations feel emotionally and conceptually cheap.

They'd fare much better producing more intimate or experimental adaptations relative to each IP. Maybe Affleck has the means to execute it with a more creative approach. Behind closed doors, I'm sure there is resistance and micro-managing from executives who prefer to not stray from the model, fearing financial risk.

 

[AcademicSaucer]

The part about people not seeing it English is true, I loved Jackie Chan old movies until I saw them in English.

 

[Ross61]

I don't get what wrong with reacting. To stay stagnant is to lose. You don't adjust and you will be gone. And Wonder Woman definitely is looking unique and exciting.
And hell, DC just found critical, fan, and financial success with Rebirth which was a reactionary move.

 

[SomTervo]

A lot of scripts are a mess early in the process. Like, scripts for seriously acclaimed films. I guess it depends where it's meant to be at this point.

The stuff about the script quality not mattering is worrying.

Also, I would never trust a word Ellis says.

 

[notaskwid]

The part about people not seeing it English is true, I loved Jackie Chan old movies until I saw them in English.

That's actually the reverse of what he means by it.

 

[commedieu]

Mrs. Krabappel and Principal Skinner were in the closet making babies and I saw one of the babies and then the baby looked at me.

 

[Harmen]

The part about people not seeing it English is true, I loved Jackie Chan old movies until I saw them in English.

I'd assume the Affleck Batflick will be spoken in English though, so that is a weird comparison. Unless you mean old Jackie Chan Hollywood films that were dubbed, which I doubt.

 

[Not]

Plot twist: the script is great and this is the process that ruins it

 

[Kusagari]

These are the same people who love Snyder running their cash cow so the script is probably great.

 

[Buddha Beam]

I wish that rumor from a year or so ago about Disney sniffing around to buy DC off of Warner Brothers was true more than ever.

How disappointing. This really lowers my expectations for Wonder Woman too.

 

[zeemumu]

Well who knows where the script could go. Ben Grimm could be running the Gotham City Police Department, Robin and Shadowcat could be dream thieves trained by Alfred, Human Torch could have taken up the mantle of Captain America, Batman could be fighting a robot war for the future, Superman could have invented shrinking technology, Green Arrows could have battled Shredder, Red Skull is coveting the Allspark, Thea Queen is trapped in the Realm of Darkness, and Gwen could've gotten the Omnitrix instead of Ben.

 

[Ross61]

I wish that rumor from a year or so ago about Disney sniffing around to buy DC off of Warner Brothers was true more than ever.

How disappointing. This really lowers my expectations for Wonder Woman too.

You think Disney would actually be allowed to buy DC? Lol

 

[Discotheque]

Disney buying DC would be awful. Plz no.

I get many of you are enamored with the mcu but for the love of God any variety (even in the form of a very maligned BvS) is needed at the moment

 

[Strangelove77]

Well, the execs are right. DCEU movies have made a lot of money despite having dogshit writing.
For all intents and purposes what they're doing keeps working, so might as well keep at it.

 

[Kuro Madoushi]

After the mess that was BvS, you'd think they'd learn. It's not even about the short term gain, the fare that Marvel puts into their films drives people to see the next Marvel film.

 

[Glass Rebel]

I'd rather DC were at a company that's not Disney because it'd definitely interfere with the production of MCU films.

Universal should buy them so I can have my Flash and Fast & Furious crossover.

 

[- J - D -]

Welp, might be time to update that chart with the "_____ will save the DCEU".

 

[PhantomZone]

People laughed when Man of Steel was a big mess. Now that it's happening to Batman the world is officially ending HAHAHA

 

[Ahasverus]

That's what happen when you don't hire Terrio da gawd since the start.

 

[Solid SOAP]

let's hope it's even worse than batman v superman and the brand is eternally tainted! woohoooooooo!!!

Spoiler

I really want a good Batman movie, guys

 

[WaffleTaco]

let's hope it's even worse than batman v superman and the brand is eternally tainted! woohoooooooo!!!

Spoiler

I really want a good Batman movie, guys

There's already been three good Batman movies, in fact one could consider one of them the best superhero film of all time.

 

[broncobuster]

Bret Easton Ellis is a contrarian dipshit who spends most of his time nowadays writing lengthy diatribes about how millenials are wusses because they call out bigotry when they see it, and who, on occasion, defends his shitty fucking friends when they do unconscionable things.

Taking anything he says as true, or even as worthwhile, is done at one's own peril. Fuck Bret Easton Ellis.

You're not wrong. And despite his predilections, Bret felt the need to clarify his comments for being blown out of proportion. Somehow the impossible happened: nerd culture blogs created too much drama for Bret Easton Ellis.

 

[bob_arctor]

Mrs. Krabappel and Principal Skinner were in the closet making babies and I saw one of the babies and then the baby looked at me.

Perfection.

 

[Dryk]

I wouldn't be surprised if this is true. It's become increasingly clear to me that Hollywood has very little respect for writers.

 

[Ross61]

Hmph

 

[GhostWriter24]

Affleck's movies are literally some of the most boring, monotone & cookie-cutter movies I've ever watched. I don't know how this dude is supposed to pull off a good superhero movie to save his life.

It's okay to be wrong.

 

[enigmatic_alex44]

We will still have the best on screen Batman they've managed to achieve so it'll be fine.

Affleck > Keaton > Kilmer > Bale > Clooney

 

[jack_package_200]

We will still have the best on screen Batman they've managed to achieve so it'll be fine.

Affleck > Keaton > Kilmer > Bale > Clooney

Why might disagree with Affleck placement, the fact that you place Keaton over Bale means you are okay in my book

 

[riotous]

Ellis is a nincompoop.

 

[El Topo]

I love how people in these rumors/articles always (partially) blame foreign audiences.

 

[CloudWolf]

This might be just a silly rumor with no backing, but honestly I don't have much faith in Affleck's Batman film.

 

[Brianimaniac]

Bret Easton Ellis is a contrarian dipshit who spends most of his time nowadays writing lengthy diatribes about how millenials are wusses because they call out bigotry when they see it, and who, on occasion, defends his shitty fucking friends when they do unconscionable things.

Taking anything he says as true, or even as worthwhile, is done at one's own peril. Fuck Bret Easton Ellis.

You're like the one guy on the planet who thinks the DCEU movies have been great so far, are you're calling someone else a contrarian?

 

[Maxios]

There's already been three good Batman movies, in fact one could consider one of them the best superhero film of all time.

Finally, someone else who adores Batman Forever as much as I do.

 

[Maintenance]

Can it at least be better than his Daredevil movie?

 

[HotHamBoy]

I actually mostly like the films released so far.

Suicide Squad could have been better. But I liked the cast and it was a fun enough way to kill 90 mins. Plus Margot.

I really like BVS: Extended.

I like Man of Steel.

It's nice to know that these movies weren't just a total waste.

 

[blame space]

it can't be any worse than what Christopher Nolan came up with

 

[Ross61]

That new thread title

 

[Future Foundation]

That new thread title

They've been the only good thing about this story.

 

[HotHamBoy]

it can't be any worse than what Christopher Nolan came up with

 

[gogosox82]

So he knows a guy, who knows a guy who said the script sucks. Seems legit.

 

[ubique]

it can't be any worse than what Christopher Nolan came up with

Yeah I think the executives didn't care back then either

 

[Replicant]

I say it before and I'll say it again: re-reboot DCEU. This version is a fucking mess!

 

[Blood Diamonds]

amazing thread title lmfao

 

[Killer Queen]

amazing thread title lmfao

No lies detected

 

[GabeTheGrouch76]

Assuming this is true, I don't even know what to think at this point.

On one hand, the DCEU has arguably been one screwup after another. MoS was average, and both BvS and SS were both highly divisive, and I wouldn't be fazed if WW and JL are misfires too. So if the script for the Batfleck is trash, that wouldn't be too shocking.

On the other hand, WB management is arguably in complete shambles by this point; for all of the alleged complaints about the script that have been made, the studio execs involved probably couldn't pick a script with potential if it sprouted wings and hit them right in the jaw. Especially if the reports about them being only in it for the money aren't without merit.

And personally speaking, Batfleck and his scenes in BvS were the only bright spots I enjoyed in what was otherwise one of the most incoherent films from a major studio I've ever seen. (Also a fan of Affleck's Argo as well.)

I want to have faith that Affleck can put out a damn good take on Batman with his film, but I wouldn't be surprised --though disappointed all the same-- if it too fell into the same hole the DCEU as a whole has driven itself into.

 

[The Hermit]

Hello darkness my old friend...

 

[Peter Ian Staker]

Disney buying DC would be awful. Plz no.

I get many of you are enamored with the mcu but for the love of God any variety (even in the form of a very maligned BvS) is needed at the moment

I would gladly sacrifice variety to get some DC movies that aren't godawful.