Doc Holliday
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Love my 120hz benq, the difference is night and day! I have ips for graphics works but when I game it's 120hz all the way. I feel like I'm using a CRT again
The best monitor from a pure gameplay perspective is going to be a CRT, because you can drop res and drive them to 160-200Hz without being blinded by jaggies. There is no input lag either. I got mine for $5 at Goodwill.
They're pretty impractical for daily use but they make for nice secondary monitors for highly competitive online games.
I use my Asus LCD for everything else. They make good products.
Indeed, the king of kings. Had to leave mine to my brother when I moved overseas. ;__;Yep, I still check craigslist for fw900. Still the best monitor of all time.
The best monitor from a pure gameplay perspective is going to be a CRT, because you can drop res and drive them to 160-200Hz without being blinded by jaggies. There is no input lag either. I got mine for $5 at Goodwill.
They're pretty impractical for daily use but they make for nice secondary monitors for highly competitive online games.
I use my Asus LCD for everything else. They make good products.
The best monitor from a pure gameplay perspective is going to be a CRT, because you can drop res and drive them to 160-200Hz without being blinded by jaggies. There is no input lag either. I got mine for $5 at Goodwill.
They're pretty impractical for daily use but they make for nice secondary monitors for highly competitive online games.
I use my Asus LCD for everything else. They make good products.
Apart from fighters, is it still worth it for regular gaming? I don't really notice input lag anyway so if that is the only plus point of the monitor I can imagine a lot of people going with others, I'll check out that 8H successor tooIt's pretty old, but most companies don't care at all about input lag. The VH236H has been thoroughly tested and widely accepted for at least fighting game tournaments as well as a lot of MLG tournies. Most Asus monitors have great (very low) input lag, but the actual amount varies. Most of the VH series tends to do well though. The VH238H is supposed to be the successor to the VH236H. It has the same input lag and is LED backlit, but there's not a lot of differences except that it's usually more expensive (and I guess has better black levels). Asus also released a new monitor labeled "The Evo Monitor" (except it's not the Evo monitor...), but I don't think anyone's tested input lag on it yet.
Apart from fighters, is it still worth it for regular gaming? I don't really notice input lag anyway so if that is the only plus point of the monitor I can imagine a lot of people going with others, I'll check out that 8H successor too
Agreed. Most people probably won't respond because it's the same arguments over and over. There's plenty of threads where all possible viewpoints are expressed.
Thanks mateIf you don't notice input lag (or don't care about it), it's still a very quality monitor. Not too expensive and has a nice picture for the price. I think its #1 selling point is its low input lag, so I don't know if it's still a "great value" if that doesn't interest you. If you're playing WoW, LoL, etc it's probably not important. Low input lag can help you in FPS, Fighters, and Rhythm games though.
Apple and Dell U2711 use (or used to anyway) have the exact same panel, but only difference was the anti-glare coating on the Dell (I don't mind it; I own it) versus the glass glossy Apple (I don't mind it either; I own it).IMO-
Good cheap 22" panel
Asus VS229H-P decent colors, IPS, and cheap($140-160)
Best 120hz panel-
SAMSUNG S27A950D-best in the business colors for an IPS, fast, no lag, and small bezels.
Best 27" panel-
Apple Cinema Display(price premium over the DELLS, Catleaps, and HP's) but the high gloss, glass panel is beautiful
Best 30" panel-
DELL U3011-High res, great colors as long as you don't mind the heavy anti glare coating
Best money is no object panel-
NEC 30" PA301W-BK-SV
I would recommend a 27" Korean monitor (Catleap, Shimian etc.) S-IPS and a ridiculous 2560x1440 resolution. Colourful games like Just Cause 2 and Rayman Origins look stunning.
Are there 24-27" versions of the "EVO monitor" with the same snappy response time?
This is what I do. CRT for gaming, flat panel for everything else.
The best monitor from a pure gameplay perspective is going to be a CRT, because you can drop res and drive them to 160-200Hz without being blinded by jaggies. There is no input lag either. I got mine for $5 at Goodwill.
They're pretty impractical for daily use but they make for nice secondary monitors for highly competitive online games.
I use my Asus LCD for everything else. They make good products.
What about 16:9 only games though? I mean, I much prefer CRTs too, but are there 16:9 CRTs out there? Most PC games still have 4:3 options, but some now are 16:9 only, and those black bars are kind of annoying... (yes, my main monitor is a CRT)
My other monitor is a pretty bad (and also 4:3) LCD, but I don't use it for gaming so the quality doesn't matter as much. Still though, color quality is atrocious compared to the CRT. It might be nice if I had one decent 16:9 LCD though, for the games that only work in that aspect ratio.
Sony FW900 is seriously the best monitor you could buy. It is widescreen.
The BenQ XL2420T should be GBP 280 or so, and it's one of the best (if not the best) 120 Hz gaming monitors currently available.Can anyone recommend a cheap (Ideally £250 or less) 3D-Vision ready monitor?
Benq XL2420T.
The BenQ XL2420T should be GBP 280 or so, and it's one of the best (if not the best) 120 Hz gaming monitors currently available.
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Get a Samsung S23A700/750/950D if you want to sacrifice a bit of input lag for better colors. I have both, and if I'm not playing something like T:A or War sow, I prefer the Samsung.
IPS/high Res guys are objectively wrong. Hopefully we can have both someday.[/QUOTE]
Thanks for the suggestions, looking into all of these at the moment. The BenQ appears to be the most expensive of those available over here (the S23A950D doesn't seem to be available in the UK), so I'm going to compare specs on all 3 and decide. A plus point for the Samsungs is that Overclockers are offering a zero dead pixel guarantee - they have the BenQ in stock but the product page doesn't mention the guarantee, so I'll query that with them. The Samsungs also have a 3 year warranty vs the BenQ's two year one.
As for the S23A750D, I notice it only has HDMI and DisplayPort inputs, no DVI. My graphics card output situation is a bit complicated, currently my GTX 460 is set up like this:
DVI Port 1 - nothing
DVI Port 2 - nothing
Mini-HDMI Port - A/V receiver (using mini-HMDI > HDMI cable).
So my HDMI port is already taken. Can I just get a DVI -> HDMI converter and use another HDMI cable with this to connect it to the 750D's HDMI port? Just wondering if the graphics card would complain about outputting to two HDMI sources at the same time, or whether it will see the converted one as a DVI connection (the A/V receiver connection will only be for sound once I get my monitor connected).
[b]Edit:[/b] Just read this in one of the customer reviews for the 750D:
[quote]if you are buying this for 120hz frequency in 2d I would not bother unless your graphics card has a Displayport port on it. [b]It is impossible to achieve 120hz using hdmi[/b] and this non gaming grade monitor doesn't have a dvi out. So it's displayport only for 120hz. I was mislead by the description of this monitor and I am now stuck on 60hz hdmi with my gtx 560ti which (like most nvidia cards) doesn't have displayport. If you dont have a displayport graphics card you will be better off with a tft, as 60hz you are seeing screen tearing on most games.[/quote]
Is that true (maybe I should know that)? My graphics card doesn't have DisplayPort so if it is, it would seem the best of the Samsungs available here is the 700D as that has a DVI port. Although I thought HDMI and DVI were essentially the same apart from DVI not carrying sound?
Edit: Just read this in one of the customer reviews for the 750D:
Is that true (maybe I should know that)? My graphics card doesn't have DisplayPort so if it is, it would seem the best of the Samsungs available here is the 700D as that has a DVI port. Although I thought HDMI and DVI were essentially the same apart from DVI not carrying sound?
My bro who used to play CS competitively swears by his Iiyama CRT. Beastly.
Ah okay, thanks for the info. I'm not sure how useful the Samsung would be to me though, seems it's not on Nvidia's "approved" list for 3D vision, so does that mean it wouldn't work with their kit? I don't know why they couldn't just make it compatible with any 120Hz 3D monitor - unless that's the case and they just don't advertise it.you'll need Dual-Link DVI for 120 Hz 1080p ... (or Displayport obviously)
HDMI is basically "regular" DVI, which lacks the bandwith for 120 Hz 1080p (or 60 Hz 1440/1600p for that matter)
edit: ALSO i love my BenQ XL2420T super smooth & responsive, very good stand as well