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Best roguelike on the DS - New official thread of you will buy Shiren DS

mattso

Member
dock UK said:
My Rescue Code:

RJ9ZK 4BJ8 F88Y9
TPH5M SX!3 86D1Z
14BKD S!PH 0LZ02
VBV6Z R6VM MZT20

Rescue me pleeeease! I was on floor 12, and got killed by inferno. I thought I was doing great, but I fell into a pit and was surrounded. Need to be more careful about traps in future.



If I leave my DS on, and connected to Wi-Fi, can random people rescue me?

How do I rescue random people?
I will rescue you

here's to hoping I find a scroll of blessing during it to uncurse my happy armband
 

mattso

Member
dock UK said:
Awesome, thanks Mattso!
just rescued you. found you in a monster house as well. Its a good thing I had swung an unidentified staff earlier and found out it was a paralysis one. I blocked the exit and a kigny went around killing everything until it became a kigny 12, which I then paralyzed and got you.

sadly no scrolls of blessing though, the hunt continues...

Y2Y5X GPRF PJJ8G
KMW!Q !KW3 XTK!H
Z7Q9K WG2T TDYZH
VNX1T MSJM QVFC0
 

Diseased Yak

Gold Member
mattso said:

Dang! Reminds me of the monster house i had a few days ago where there were 3 kigny's running around murdering everything else. I died two steps away from the exit to a kigny 6 due to running out of stave charges.
 

dock

Member
Thanks Mattso! Much appreciated.

That said, I just died again on floor 18. Anyone want to try to rescue me again? ^_^;
Rescue number 0000-0000-xxxx

rescue code:

EDIT: I've restarted now, no problems.
 

mattso

Member
dock UK said:
Thanks Mattso! Much appreciated.

That said, I just died again on floor 18. Anyone want to try to rescue me again? ^_^;
Rescue number 0000-0000-6535

rescue code:
QVB7W M!FJ 98DZ8
1CW!1 7NGW 42LVH
YGM0C K5G3 RK16T
63P!3 07Y0 T0900

if no one else takes it I guess I will later

but for now I'm going to do some fay's puzzles. I want to get some air/earth bless scrolls and some jars of holding. I want to upgrade my katana a little more before I try to take on table mountain again. I know I don't need super weapons but it'd be nice to be well prepared.

I also bought some mamel meat and put that in the warehouse along with a doppleganger staff I found I'll probably bring along with anything else I know will be useful.

Some staffs of postpone or paralysis would be nice, as well as chiropractic jars...

I know I don't need all this to start the journey, I just don't want to leave finding it all to chance, I REALLY want to beat this!
 

dock

Member
mattso said:
Some staffs of postpone or paralysis would be nice, as well as chiropractic jars...
I should be able to sort you out with one of these!! I couldn't attach an item to a thank-you because it was done with a password last time, but if you add my friend code or grab me via WiFi I should be able to send you something back. ^_^
 

mattso

Member
now I need to be rescued :(

I'm on floor 27. not a monster house but there were like 6 around me. 2 blastwave scrolls killed a few, a scroll of need didnt paralyze the rest though...

then I tried to use a scroll of sleep and run.. stepped on an alarm trap, got turned into a riceball by a mage, and died..

If I get rescued I really think I can beat it so PLEASE help me!

WS479 6C2K 88B3W
M96YS 8F3D 5P591
H!0SQ 4C0M QXK5D
61PF4 T4G8 WV530

I have so much good stuff with me and I'm prepared to take out the tainted insect if I get to it... HELP PLEASE!!!
 
mattso said:
now I need to be rescued :(

I'm on floor 27. not a monster house but there were like 6 around me. 2 blastwave scrolls killed a few, a scroll of need didnt paralyze the rest though...

then I tried to use a scroll of sleep and run.. stepped on an alarm trap, got turned into a riceball by a mage, and died..

If I get rescued I really think I can beat it so PLEASE help me!

WS479 6C2K 88B3W
M96YS 8F3D 5P591
H!0SQ 4C0M QXK5D
61PF4 T4G8 WV530

I have so much good stuff with me and I'm prepared to take out the tainted insect if I get to it... HELP PLEASE!!!

Atilac said:
I need to be rescued. I'm on floor 9ish.... I got jumped by 3 powerful goons.
0000-0000-6543

I'll take both of these if you're both willing to wait until tomorrow for the rescue.
 

Tremis

This man does his research.
mattso said:
now I need to be rescued :(

I'm on floor 27. not a monster house but there were like 6 around me. 2 blastwave scrolls killed a few, a scroll of need didnt paralyze the rest though...

then I tried to use a scroll of sleep and run.. stepped on an alarm trap, got turned into a riceball by a mage, and died..

If I get rescued I really think I can beat it so PLEASE help me!

WS479 6C2K 88B3W
M96YS 8F3D 5P591
H!0SQ 4C0M QXK5D
61PF4 T4G8 WV530

I have so much good stuff with me and I'm prepared to take out the tainted insect if I get to it... HELP PLEASE!!!

Gonna give both those a shot. i'll update my progress.
 

Tremis

This man does his research.
Atilac said:
I need to be rescued. I'm on floor 9ish.... I got jumped by 3 powerful goons.
0000-0000-6543

Got you. :D Herb of Victory sent for a tight situation.

edit: nvm... i was too late.
 

Tremis

This man does his research.
mattso said:
now I need to be rescued :(

I'm on floor 27. not a monster house but there were like 6 around me. 2 blastwave scrolls killed a few, a scroll of need didnt paralyze the rest though...

then I tried to use a scroll of sleep and run.. stepped on an alarm trap, got turned into a riceball by a mage, and died..

If I get rescued I really think I can beat it so PLEASE help me!

WS479 6C2K 88B3W
M96YS 8F3D 5P591
H!0SQ 4C0M QXK5D
61PF4 T4G8 WV530

I have so much good stuff with me and I'm prepared to take out the tainted insect if I get to it... HELP PLEASE!!!

i just got thrown into that damn monster house from a tiger guy from a completely different room.. i didn't realize that the higher lvl ones could do that.....grrrrr.

edit: i guess you can't rescue someone as a riceball either. I hoping my sticky ricey goodness would revive you. :lol
 

dock

Member
I've sucked it up and restarted, no problem. :)

Random thought:
I wish Sega (and other publishers) would support games like this by publishing rescue requests on a website. They could even have an RSS feed of requests so that people could see when people are waiting to be rescued (which in turn would get more people using the service, etc). Super trivial functionality like this would make all the difference to a game like Shiren, and would be much easier for most people than the current 'poke in the dark' system the game uses. I believe Pokemon Mystery Dungeon 2 is better in this respect (sends emails out, etc) but a supporting website would be super simple and super effective.

I'm trying to treat this like a long arcade game, or old school game, so that restarting isn't so much of a psychological defeat for me. :)
 

Atilac

Member
Thanks for helping me, but I need help again. I just got done clearing a monster filled room with a damaging scroll (monster house? there where like 20 of them) I fell into a pit trap while scoring loot. I got buttraped by high level tiger, My new rescue code is 0000-0000-6567.
 

Tremis

This man does his research.
Atilac said:
Thanks for helping me, but I need help again. I just got done clearing a monster filled room with a damaging scroll (monster house? there where like 20 of them) I fell into a pit trap while scoring loot. I got buttraped by high level tiger, My new rescue code is 0000-0000-6567.

i'll give it a go.

edit: rescued!
 

Tremis

This man does his research.
mattso said:
so no luck for me yet?

hey mattso. second try was....... successful! phew.

i rushed to 27 and just ended up paralyzing and postponing every monster. i got that damn tiger that killed me on the first rescue attempt and the first step into the monster room almost killed me. i had 3 need scrolls though and popped one. anyway, here you go. :D

5158B - S62T - QJG7H
R1N0X - XVSM - 3RFZP
9MGH5 - 7NFR - YNMFR
FGRY1 - 7PR1 - JBNB0
 

mattso

Member
Tremis said:
hey mattso. second try was....... successful! phew.

i rushed to 27 and just ended up paralyzing and postponing every monster. i got that damn tiger that killed me on the first rescue attempt and the first step into the monster room almost killed me. i had 3 need scrolls though and popped one. anyway, here you go. :D

5158B - S62T - QJG7H
R1N0X - XVSM - 3RFZP
9MGH5 - 7NFR - YNMFR
FGRY1 - 7PR1 - JBNB0
thank you!

I'll update with how it goes...

edit: YOURE MY HERO

I beat it! I bolted through the last few stages, killing only if I had to otherwise postponing/paralyzing the rest

got to the last floor..

doppleganged the first thing that came near me

got close to the tainted insect...

scroll of sleep to make sure the other things left me alone and then mamel meat thrown at tainted insect and bam!

I guess my next goal should be to beat it without being rescued
 

mattso

Member
Night_Trekker said:
I also finished the rescue today. Pretty tough run, mattso. I think I found a single rice ball the entire time.
thank you as well

Yeah I had stocked up four big riceballs and made use of the inns along the way

also: thank goodness for the staff of stability I brought with me. I have soooo many jars and I stumbled twice and it saved me from losing some.
 

mattso

Member
thanks

so now I'm working on opening up those other dungeons. Escorting that chef to mt. top town now.

I guess on the trips I'll be taking I'll just keep upgrading my katana as well.
 

Tremis

This man does his research.
mattso said:
thank you!

I'll update with how it goes...

edit: YOURE MY HERO

I beat it! I bolted through the last few stages, killing only if I had to otherwise postponing/paralyzing the rest

got to the last floor..

doppleganged the first thing that came near me

got close to the tainted insect...

scroll of sleep to make sure the other things left me alone and then mamel meat thrown at tainted insect and bam!

I guess my next goal should be to beat it without being rescued

awesome! congrats! it feels good to know the effort was not wasted.

i've been working on the final puzzle myself and i think i've hit lvl 54 max or something.. so hard. i wonder if i should try and finish some of the other dungeons first. i did the trap one, food one, and that's it.


edit: man, i'm getting sick of this avatar business.. is there anyone i can beg to change it back? i made my own animated gif for it that took a bit of time. then i reworked it to fit the size requirements but did it too late. ah well...it is kind of funny. :D
 
While playing yesterday I used a sealing staff on what I didn't know what a Kid Tengu, which revealed its true form, and I got to thinking... what does Tengu meat do? I didn't have a Bufu Staff on me so I couldn't check for myself.
 

mjc

Member
I picked up a copy today on my way home from EB, at $20 I had to bite.

Any tips for a newbie to roguelikes?
 

mattso

Member
Just go out and die a few times to get a feel for it

always remember to get your free big riceball from the barman before you go

then try some of fay's puzzles, they help explain some fun ways to use items
 

Tremis

This man does his research.
oh and don't be afraid to ask for rescues here. we'll all greatly enjoy saving your ass. :D

edit: just in case you guys find this useful, i found a guy who went and made an excel spreadsheet documenting the prices of the various items in the Final Puzzle. Its still tough as nails even with being able to figure out what some of your items are.

link
 
Tremis said:
edit: just in case you guys find this useful, i found a guy who went and made an excel spreadsheet documenting the prices of the various items in the Final Puzzle. Its still tough as nails even with being able to figure out what some of your items are.

link

I've been doing this myself and it's a pain in the ass. Thank you for the link.
 

mattso

Member
I've become shiren the wandering bank

Just finished paying off the 10000 gitans to the restaurant, gave 1000 gitans to pekeji, and kept upgrading my katana as much as I could along the way.

I had to leave it in mt. top town this last run since I (foolishly) ran out of riceballs and didn't want to lose it like an idiot dying of hunger on the way back to canyon hamlet.

Time to go pick it back up and keep this restaurant stuff progressing so I can get into those other dungeons.

edit: made it into the kitchen god shrine. got to the 5th floor, found a jar, decided to press it.. and 5 baddies came out, surrounded me, and killed me.

seems like an interesting dungeon

about to try the trap dungeon now
 

mattso

Member
so after trying both those dungeons I decided to try item farming in the final dungeon for a bit

so... are unbreakable jars any good besides I imagine if you stumble and don't have a staff of stability they'll be ok?
 

mattso

Member
Tremis said:
as far as i know, that's all they would be good for. that and selling to the shopkeeper.
I see

I really just want a melding jar. I'm still bitter my game froze when gaibara gave me it. Hasn't happened since, never happened before that either. It's like the game wanted to screw me over.

edit: well, that was quick. got one! keep em coming!
 
Yup! Like someone mentioned earlier, this game is now $20 at Gamestop. So needlessly to say, I decided to give it a try and bought it last night.

Now, I have a question:

Does this game get better later on?

I mean, I am not bothered by the difficulty or the fact that you go back to being level 1 if you die (which is IMO what makes it interesting). It's just that the game feels a bit too uneventful at the moment.

Please note that I barely made it to the second town.
 
Mister Chef said:
Yup! Like someone mentioned earlier, this game is now $20 at Gamestop. So needlessly to say, I decided to give it a try and bought it last night.

Now, I have a question:

Does this game get better later on?

I mean, I am not bothered by the difficulty or the fact that you go back to being level 1 if you die (which is IMO what makes it interesting). It's just that the game feels a bit too uneventful at the moment.

Please note that I barely made it to the second town.

The game gets much more interesting as you encounter enemy types with varied, crazy abilities. It starts out simple to ease you into the gameplay, but it gets rough with you later, especially once you reach Table Mountain (and, of course, in the extra dungeons, which are much harder than the main quest).

That's in terms of gameplay. The story is a simple one and serves mainly to get you into the dungeons and interesting situations.
 

Althane

Member
ronito said:
Stumbled across my first monster house last night. And I thought I was doing so good :(

Yeah, monster houses tend to do that.

MY way of death was a lot less... yeah.

I'd just gotten melding jars unlocked (haven't been able to play in a while), so I have a Kabra's Blade + 28 (with several skills in there), a Armor Ward +something (with 2 hides and a golden shield melded in)...

How do I die?

Two dead vets get away from me on their last hit until death, at which point they get into an ogre mage. Not TOO terrible, just means I should find the exit. I get delayed by a riceball changer, and guess what shows up right behind me, his first move being to seal me (at which point the riceball changes me into a riceball)... so I got utterly screwed. Blah.

Rescue please?

(Sad thing was, this was just a 2 town run for some weapon/armor buildup, and supplies... very, very sad)

BVRRN 5QTH 98J6Z
XM426 D7KT RKJ82
21FH1 6DTV 2P8RF
R6H71 QVNT !R700

So very sad, I know. =P
 
Night_Trekker said:
The game gets much more interesting as you encounter enemy types with varied, crazy abilities. It starts out simple to ease you into the gameplay, but it gets rough with you later, especially once you reach Table Mountain (and, of course, in the extra dungeons, which are much harder than the main quest).

That's in terms of gameplay. The story is a simple one and serves mainly to get you into the dungeons and interesting situations.
Yeah, I have been playing the game for a few days now and I gotta admit, this goes does grow on you. :D
 
Althane said:
MY way of death was a lot less... yeah.

I'd just gotten melding jars unlocked (haven't been able to play in a while), so I have a Kabra's Blade + 28 (with several skills in there), a Armor Ward +something (with 2 hides and a golden shield melded in)...

How do I die?

Two dead vets get away from me on their last hit until death, at which point they get into an ogre mage. Not TOO terrible, just means I should find the exit. I get delayed by a riceball changer, and guess what shows up right behind me, his first move being to seal me (at which point the riceball changes me into a riceball)... so I got utterly screwed. Blah.

Rescue please?

(Sad thing was, this was just a 2 town run for some weapon/armor buildup, and supplies... very, very sad)

BVRRN 5QTH 98J6Z
XM426 D7KT RKJ82
21FH1 6DTV 2P8RF
R6H71 QVNT !R700

So very sad, I know. =P

I'll take it. Can you wait until tomorrow for the rescue?

EDIT: Actually, forget it. I'll do it tonight. Just give me about an hour to get myself killed in The Final Puzzle.

EDIT 2:

VDY0P DZCC LJDPV
GV3XW GZQQ V9Z3N
5H5H7 2KXD LBBS2
DY4B3 VRJL MBP90
 
i finally rode the golden condor last week.
awesome game. this is my first roguelike

one of my favorite moments in my many runs was when (forgive me i don't know the proper names) one of those crab/scorpion(?) things, the ones that get 2 hits per turn, from the swamp killed all 3 of my companions and i then turned him into meat.

that beast was unstoppable!
 
Ugh. Just how many damn floors are there in the Ceremonial Cave?

Anyway, I need a rescue from floor 23.

Code:
7PVF7 ZK1! H8SJL
XDRVW J5PH TLC0S
265MJ XKH3 4BH98
4PQQS 5W0J ZPY10
 

Vieo

Member
%$#$@!!@~!!!

Died on 26F. Stupid Death Angel got me. I has JUST found a Minotaur's Axe on the previous floor and combined it with a Mastersword. The result was Mastersword that had the trait of critial-striking. I contemplated putting it in the storehouse jar, but I thought I could kill the Death Angel and survive a bit longer. I scored two blows on him and assumed he would die on one more, but I was wrong. =(

Anyone want to rescue me? I'll give you an armband. =)

0000-0000-6916
 

Teasel

Member
Night_Trekker said:
Ugh. Just how many damn floors are there in the Ceremonial Cave?

Anyway, I need a rescue from floor 23.

Code:
7PVF7 ZK1! H8SJL
XDRVW J5PH TLC0S
265MJ XKH3 4BH98
4PQQS 5W0J ZPY10
there are 30 floors but if you are dying on floor 23 there is no point to continue...
at floor 30 there is a boss and he's a lot stronger and deadly than anything on floor 23
 
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