And it destroys me. They deserve to be the ones making the fallout franchise. They showed up Bethesda HARD on NV.
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Bethesda: "Please Stand By" (aka obvious Fallout teaser) [maybe not crossgen]
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Xion_Stellar
People should stop referencing data that makes me feel uncomfortable because games get ported to platforms I don't like
triplestation
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Bethesda would give Obsidian a fat bonus if and only if New Vegas hit a 85 or above on Metacritic. New Vegas got 84. There was some other stuff that I can't recall exactly.
RockTurtle
Member
have we completely ruled out an MMORPG?
It's not going to be one. I can almost guarantee you.
anexanhume
Member
ESO ruled out a MMORPG.
Xion_Stellar
People should stop referencing data that makes me feel uncomfortable because games get ported to platforms I don't like
We didn't have to Zenimax Online did that for them.
Bethesda is the publisher of NV. How was Obsidian responsible for that?
Why not? Bethesda Softworks made a ton of money working with them and Obsidian is not going to turn down a major contract like one BethSoft would pay. It's a fight every day for a large indie developer like Obsidian. Getting a new Fallout gig would be huge for them.
lighthouse777
Member
the game was one big mess when it released
and that was cross platform and game breaking
http://segmentnext.com/2010/10/19/fallout-new-vegas-errors-crashes-freezes-fixes/
nortonff
Hi, I'm nortonff. I spend my life going into threads to say that I don't care about the topic of the thread. It's a really good use of my time.
smudge
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God I hope not. Coop would be fun, but I would rather it be 100% single player
block tower
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Todd Howard is famous for saying "if install base mattered we'd all make board games because everyone has a table " . So no considering Todd Howard does as he pleases at Bethesda I can't see them making him make Fallout 4 crossgen if he didn't want to. I'm confused as to why a game so long in development , assuredly since 2011/2012 would still be crossgen when being released in 2015/2016. There seems like there's more limitations by making an open world game that needs to run and perform on last gen consoles . I'm just not buying they'd make a creative decision like that when the guys at CD Projekt Red only released The Witcher 3 on currentgen and pc . So I it just doesn't make sense Bethesda would do crossgen when PC is the lead platform and Howard has talked about his excitement to create games for the new consoles since the have a lot more memory than lastgen consoles. So I disagree with your point that it would be "money" , also TSO Oblivion released solely on Xbox360 and PC when it came out and that was a game that released early on in the first year of the Xbox360's life cycle and it wasn't crossgen .
For the last time please quit repeating this shit
http://www.rockpapershotgun.com/2013/02/12/and-heres-obsidians-idea-for-fallout-new-vegas-2/
IcyRhythms
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Cross gen will hurt this game more than some are willing to accept. It will run on 1-2 cores on PC again, have some of the worst textures(mods I know believe me my New Vegas looks nice)
I want PS4, XB1, and PC only for Fallout 4. The hardware of PS3 and 360 will hold back the true potential of what it could have been.
I want PS4, XB1, and PC only for Fallout 4. The hardware of PS3 and 360 will hold back the true potential of what it could have been.
Mendax
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thanks for that!
Spirit of Jazz
Banned
I'm blown out on open world with 1,000,000 poorly designed things to do and bad combat so I can't say I'm all that excited given Bethesda's track record.
what happened was that the game was buggy like every Bethesda game with that engine but it got picked on this time while Bethesda always got a pass in the past and they did again with Skyrim after it. Bethesda can never make a Fallout as good with their level of writing or quest design. Obsidian's history I guess made them an easy target there but that time around I feel it wasn't their fault and their only really buggy game was NWN2.
GlamFM
Banned
0%, probably even less.
I've had this discussion with a few people, these are the reasons it wont be an MMO
1. Elder Scrolls MMO was a failure.
2. Elder Scrolls MMO wasn't even made by Bethesda, they outsourced it.
If it does turn out to be an MMO, I will cry great tears...great great tears.
nortonff
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That's a sad Spirit you got there Jazz.
Imagine playing the game and needing a resource, and being able to go to a marketplace and trade something you have for something you don't. I'm just talking about in game resources and not real world money
maquiladora
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Jesus why would you even say that -_- ugh
shinobi602
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From this topic alone I can tell I'm looking forward to every other "No Obsidian, no buy" post in the announcement thread.
Blue Ninja
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That may be referring to Fallout 3 and Fallout New Vegas. Take a look at the AC Syndicate website. It has PS3 and 360 on the bottom because of the other games in the series on those platforms. This may be what Bethesda is doing for the Fallout 4 page.
block tower
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that doesn't sound fun at all
DudeWithNoName
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Yep. If this is cross gen, I go from Day 1 digital to buying it used for $9.99 in a year.
Tal Shiar Agent
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Can you blame them? Obsidian made a mockery of Bethesda and the original creators of Fallout are at Obsidian.
It's going to drive me insane. The crossgen shit already is.
SuperEpicMan
Banned
I have been looking through the code, and it is showing references here and there to the Institute.
block tower
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that's what I thought when I read OP too. I just don't buy a game that's been in development for 4+ years is still clinging to cross gen consoles when the game might not even release until sometime in 2016 . I remember Pete Hines on a Bonus Round episode saying things like cross gen development become more detrimental to bottom line development costs the longer a new gen goes on. He said something like they make that decision to todo or not do cross gen fairly early on. I just don't see them doing cross gen for a variety of reasons.
Lord of Castamere
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I still don't understand this. Obsidian agreed to the Bonus Agreement. They agreed to the release window. Yes it sucks that they were under the agreed MC number, but why does that paint Bethesda in a bad light? Obsidian games are notoriously buggy. That's not Bethesda's fault. Bethesda didn't bribe reviewers or anything. It was a business agreement.
pffffffffffff
Xion_Stellar
People should stop referencing data that makes me feel uncomfortable because games get ported to platforms I don't like
About the same chance it has of coming out next year
But seriously XCOM 2 was just announced and that's coming out in November so it's not an impossible possibility.
lighthouse777
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Anything Goes
Cole Porter
Times have changed
And we've often rewound the clock
Since the Puritans got a shock
When they landed on Plymouth Rock.
If today
Any shock they should try to stem
'Stead of landing on Plymouth Rock,
Plymouth Rock would land on them.
In olden days, a glimpse of stocking
Was looked on as something shocking.
But now, God knows,
Anything goes.
Good authors too who once knew better words
Now only use four-letter words
writing prose.
Anything goes.
If driving fast cars you like,
If low bars you like,
If old hymns you like,
If bare limbs you like,
If Mae West you like,
Or me undressed you like,
Why, nobody will oppose.
When ev'ry night the set that's smart is in-
truding in nudist parties
in studios.
Anything goes.
When Missus Ned McLean (God bless her)
Can get Russian reds to "yes" her,
Then I suppose
Anything goes.
When Rockefeller still can hoard en-
Ough money to let Max Gordon
Produce his shows,
Anything goes.
The world has gone mad today
And good's bad today,
And black's white today,
And day's night today,
And that gent today
You gave a cent today
Once had several chateaux.
When folks who still can ride in Jitneys
Find out Vanderbilts and Whitneys
Lack baby clo'es,
Anything goes.
When Sam Goldwyn can with great conviction
Instruct Anna Sten in diction,
Then Anna shows
Anything goes.
When you hear that Lady Mendl standing up
Now does a handspring landing up-
On her toes,
Anything goes.
Just think of those shocks you've got
And those knocks you've got
And those blues you've got
From those news you've got
And those pains you've got
(If any brains you've got)
From those little radios.
So Missus R., with all her trimmin's,
Can broadcast a bed from Simmons
'Cause Franklin knows
Anything goes.
https://youtu.be/lD1Fjird9XI
Cole Porter
Times have changed
And we've often rewound the clock
Since the Puritans got a shock
When they landed on Plymouth Rock.
If today
Any shock they should try to stem
'Stead of landing on Plymouth Rock,
Plymouth Rock would land on them.
In olden days, a glimpse of stocking
Was looked on as something shocking.
But now, God knows,
Anything goes.
Good authors too who once knew better words
Now only use four-letter words
writing prose.
Anything goes.
If driving fast cars you like,
If low bars you like,
If old hymns you like,
If bare limbs you like,
If Mae West you like,
Or me undressed you like,
Why, nobody will oppose.
When ev'ry night the set that's smart is in-
truding in nudist parties
in studios.
Anything goes.
When Missus Ned McLean (God bless her)
Can get Russian reds to "yes" her,
Then I suppose
Anything goes.
When Rockefeller still can hoard en-
Ough money to let Max Gordon
Produce his shows,
Anything goes.
The world has gone mad today
And good's bad today,
And black's white today,
And day's night today,
And that gent today
You gave a cent today
Once had several chateaux.
When folks who still can ride in Jitneys
Find out Vanderbilts and Whitneys
Lack baby clo'es,
Anything goes.
When Sam Goldwyn can with great conviction
Instruct Anna Sten in diction,
Then Anna shows
Anything goes.
When you hear that Lady Mendl standing up
Now does a handspring landing up-
On her toes,
Anything goes.
Just think of those shocks you've got
And those knocks you've got
And those blues you've got
From those news you've got
And those pains you've got
(If any brains you've got)
From those little radios.
So Missus R., with all her trimmin's,
Can broadcast a bed from Simmons
'Cause Franklin knows
Anything goes.
https://youtu.be/lD1Fjird9XI
They are basically asking Kojima to make Metal Gear. That's what Obsidian means to Fallout.
NinjamicWZ
Banned
If reading comics for decades taught me anything, it's that creative teams change and it doesn't really matter as long as the idea and name persist in a way that I like.
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