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Black Ops sold $360M in sales day one, 16 percent increase over MW2

I really think this is the peak. I don't see any room for grow left, and you can bet that Respawn is going to fiercely try to capture the lost market share and you can also bet that they are going to get a huge marketing campaign behind it. I also think that quality deficit as shown by the latest Treyarch's offering is going to start influencing the sales after a certain point of saturation gets broken.
 

Kaako

Felium Defensor
Concept17 said:
No not really. The gameplay of CoD appeals to more people as compared to say... CS. Its easy for anyone to pick up and play and do decently. And there is enough depth there for players who want to dominate every match as well. Its a good range that, for the most part, is pretty well balanced. Its also fast, leaving people with no downtime or a chance to get bored/stop playing, so its easily addictive. This is all on top of a working formula that does not (not yet) need to be changed, as it remains obviously very successful.

These things combined with an endless amount of content makes for what can only be a successful game, regardless of what you think of Activision's cow milking ways.
I agree. They do have the formula down for a successful franchise.
 

jedimike

Member
This is my first Treyarch COD purchase ever. I usually skip them because I think a yearly COD is too much and I was bored of all the WWII stuff. Since they brought their franchise to modern day, I decided to get it.

By all means, I'll certainly get $60 worth of enjoyment and I'll probably buy one or two map packs. I have zero plans to buy a COD next year, but I'm sure IW will find something new to draw me back in.

Great series! I'm happy for Activision's success even though I can't stand Kottick.
 

krae_man

Member
kinoki said:
The question is whether or not it can keep up the month-to-month sales of MW2.

World at War sold about the same as MW2 through January. After that they drop out of the top 10 so who knows.
 

Nome

Member
yankeehater said:
Great sales. I had planned to skip this game, I hated WaW, but I decided to pick it up and I am glad I did. The campaign was not as good as WM2's campaign, but the mp feels so much better.

I'm surprised you feel this way about the campaign. Maybe it's because I'm only halfway through, but I'd rate the campaign in Black Ops so far heads and tails above anything else in the CoD series.

I felt like MW2 was heavily bogged down by corridor shooting in bland locations (the Favelas levels a huge case-in-point, and the DC missions to a lesser extent), whereas Black Ops so far has managed to stay fresh as hell with every new level.

The story in MW2 has got me on my toes as well. The civilian massacre in MW2 was crazy and even uncalled-for, but the stuff that goes on in the Vietnam levels in Black Ops makes it really feel like a war.

I think Treyarch really outdid Infinity Ward on this one.

(playing on PC btw)
 

kuYuri

Member
Love some of the butthurt comments in here.

out0v0rder said:
yay for activision, now give some of that money back.

Actually, they kind of do:

http://www.shacknews.com/onearticle.x/66429

Activision has also pledged to "find 1,000 jobs for veterans" and is donating $1 million from the sales of Cod Blops to the Call of Duty Endowment, a "non-profit, public benefit corporation" which helps service members with job training and placements.

"This Veteran's Day, we should all take a moment to reflect on the sacrifices that the brave men and women of our military are making in service of our country," said Kotick. "It is a national tragedy to have these men and women put their lives on the line in Afghanistan and Iraq, only to come home to face another battle of finding a new career... I am honored that we are able to use the popularity of Call of Duty to bring much needed attention to this serious issue and assist veterans when they return home
 

Pachinko

Member
These big game releases are turning into hollywood film like openings. The entire load is blasted within 24 hours and then dribbles come out for the rest of the week.

Within a month I saw copies of modern warfare 2 popping up all over the place perhaps because of the supposodly mediocre multiplayer. I guess if black ops is better in that regard sales should just continue to go up.

Also doesn't help that the competition is part of a self fulfilling prophecy. No one wants to release a game near Call of duty since MW1 did gangbusters so what has ended up happening is that for almost a month prior to it's release and for nearly the remainder of the year there isn't ANYTHING to compete with it directly. Sure gran tourismo should be out but that's mostly a different market and by the time sony announces it's actually available it'll be december. There's a new need for speed next week but again, racing games go after a different market then shooters. Even Medal of Honor came out almost a month ahead of call of duty.

Perhaps if there was some direct competition out things would actually be different.

I feel bad for treyarch now too, activision is going to "forget" to pay them bonuses in about 3 months and half the staff will leave to form some other new company and whoever finishes call of duty roster update 2011 will have the same thing happen to them 6 months later.
 

gogojira

Member
Not exactly the biggest Activision fan here (putting it extremely lightly), but I do enjoy the CoD series. I'll be contributing to sales today after work.
 

AndresON777

shooting blanks
Vigilant Walrus said:
I will denounce any remarks about anti COD people being hipsters. I will not accept that statement! I value mainstream. I value the good things we all can angree to enjoy - Like Gaming, Ben & Jerrys, and breathing fucking air!
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lol they got ben and jerry's in your country?
 

strideramc

Member
I told myself I wasn't going to get this one, but then I succumbed to the hype and grabbed a copy which I am expecting from Amazon today. I had MW2 though, so I am not one of the 16%.
 

Booshka

Member
Vigilant Walrus said:
In Japan they are seeing this news, thinking "wtf... all those games are the same. good that we have Dynasty Warrior!"




But seriously, this is... Disturbing. I dont own the game yet, but it looks really weak.. What new does the game bring? I havent played Reach, but that series plays differently. Halo feels different. COD and everything else feels the same in pace, and gameplay time.

The fast death/ and fast respawn mentality, has reduced the aspect of dying/losing the game, to nothing, and thus suspense and a want to not die is removed, as the punishment for dying is good. if there is no risk, there is no reward. COD has become a cumbersome feeling of fuck.
COD4 was sorta fun, but I have not enjoyed this series to its fulliest since the first one, but even WW2 was getting stale back then, and already there, in the series inception the game rode on the fucking laurels of Allied Assault and everything-wanna-be-saving-private-ryan. ffffffffuuuuuuuuuuuu

God, I want a true sequel to Battlefield 2 so bad. I am so sick of this shit.




COD lacks sophistication, and balance. There is no healthy ego system. its a bundle of michael bay type narrative shit, but without the campy fun, pulled down by a majestic military porn setting, that takes its aces from war films through boring scripted events to hide the simplistic AI, respawning enemies, lack of balanced weapons, lack of authentic non-cheap difficulty(demons souls, ninja gaiden...) and just a peerless boring bunch of linear levels with many invisible walls.

The lack of imagination is disturbing. any setting has to be more fun than this modern crap. I'll say that Black Ops looks more interesting than the last two, as they at least swap the goddam era for something else, but my fiery heart is further enraged when I see that we're getting to ride down a stream in vietnam with more goddam vietnam rock music. As the klichee was not klichee enough. FFFFFUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUU


Curses! But so what? So what? The world would be wrong if this mainstream game - This is the X factor/American Idol of video games. COD is Jonas Brothers and Lady Gaga. COD is Transfomers.
But I wanted this to be more like a high quality mainstream affair... Sure Dark Knight/Inception are overrated as crap in some areas. But if COD had that place in the gaming world, instead of the place of boring irelevance. Then the world would be a tiny bit better place.


EA and BF3 will not save us. It will not be the return to form for them. They will look inwards and at what COD is doing. That's what they are doing wrong. The last thing they should be doing is looking at COD.



I think I will buy Black Ops, but the multiplayer does not sound like anything, I was hoping for. Why are we going backwards? Stuffing everyone throat with modes, guns and weapons and just shit you dont need... What you need is fewer things that work. Less is more GODDAMIT. LESS IS MORE.
Give me 3 guns that are fun to use, rather than 30 mediocre once.
This needs a Shawn Elliot voice-over, maybe Whiskey Nerd?
 

Curufinwe

Member
Scythesurge said:
This is clearly the driving factor!

The correlausality is undeniable. :D

It's a shame that the PC version got dedicated servers back, but seems to have a ton of other issues. I loved playing CoD 4 multiplayer on the PC, mainly on 24-64 players maps, and I was considering getting Black Ops.
 

Fularu

Banned
Curufinwe said:
The correlausality is undeniable. :D

It's a shame that the PC version got dedicated servers back, but seems to have a ton of other issues. I loved playing CoD 4 multiplayer on the PC, mainly on 24-64 players maps, and I was considering getting Black Ops.
The problems are inconsistent (on PC).

I expect a patch quick to fix stuff it really shouldn't be hard

The game will have rock solid MP
 

V_Arnold

Member
Pachinko said:
These big game releases are turning into hollywood film like openings. The entire load is blasted within 24 hours and then dribbles come out for the rest of the week.

Within a month I saw copies of modern warfare 2 popping up all over the place perhaps because of the supposodly mediocre multiplayer. I guess if black ops is better in that regard sales should just continue to go up.

....(not interesting part considering the nature of my reply)...

I feel bad for treyarch now too, activision is going to "forget" to pay them bonuses in about 3 months and half the staff will leave to form some other new company and whoever finishes call of duty roster update 2011 will have the same thing happen to them 6 months later.

Yeah? It is funny you say that.
NPD, 2010, Modern Warfare 2:
2010 Sept: 10th
2010 Aug: 8th
2010 July: 10th

Its launch week produced 4,7 million sales (US+UK), at 2010 mar, according to NPD again, in US alone the game was already above 10 million units sold. Dying sales, right?
 

lockload

Member
Its easy to forget that in the last 12 months X million of consoles have been sold the are probably 10 million more consoles in the market
 

RedStep

Member
lockload said:
Its easy to forget that in the last 12 months X million of consoles have been sold the are probably 10 million more consoles in the market

That's true, but there are other factors to consider:

a) Software sales do not (classically) scale linearly with hardware sales.

b) Diminishing returns. At some point (classically), all series start their decline. You'd think that after 7 (mainline) sequels in 7 years, we would have at least peaked/plateaued. It's hard to have successive "biggest launches of all time".

c) This is an "off" (non-IW) year, which has (classically) meant a dip in sales.
 
Opus Angelorum said:
There were quite a few on here who claimed MW2 was the peak. These figures are incredible.

I agree, the numbers are incredibly. I predicted around MW2 numbers, but they over shot it by $50 million.
 

Nemo

Will Eat Your Children
Lagspike_exe said:
I really think this is the peak. I don't see any room for grow left, and you can bet that Respawn is going to fiercely try to capture the lost market share and you can also bet that they are going to get a huge marketing campaign behind it. I also think that quality deficit as shown by the latest Treyarch's offering is going to start influencing the sales after a certain point of saturation gets broken.
That reminded me, I'm sure this is probably true but can Respawn do something like from the original creators of Modern Warfare and Modern Warfare 2 during marketing?
 

Kusagari

Member
Lagspike_exe said:
I really think this is the peak. I don't see any room for grow left, and you can bet that Respawn is going to fiercely try to capture the lost market share and you can also bet that they are going to get a huge marketing campaign behind it. I also think that quality deficit as shown by the latest Treyarch's offering is going to start influencing the sales after a certain point of saturation gets broken.

I can agree with most of that but there is no 'quality deficit' to the vast majority of the audience.
 
Doesn't surprise me at all, retailers have been pushing the shit out of this game for a couple of months. You would be lucky to know anything else was even releasing.

Also i really don't think WoM is anywhere near as bad as people make out. As far as i can tell most people love the game and they actually seem to keep playing it. I mean even the most casual gamers who normally barely play or don't at all are playing these games regularly right up to the release of the successor.

You hear everyone talking about even the people you never thought would. I remember my parents telling me about this conversation they had at work about the difference between modern warfare and normal CoD.

Some people seem sure that sales are about to drop but im not so sure. I realise there is the guitar hero precedent but i don't think that will happen to CoD, at least not for a few more years.
 

Eliciel

Member
It came in the news in the middle of the night and I live in Germany. There was a documentation about the "hype" about this game.

I thought "wow, that's some crazy shit that they're showing this on RTL"...
 

farnham

Banned
voady said:
It came in the news in the middle of the night and I live in Germany. There was a documentation about the "hype" about this game.

I thought "wow, that's some crazy shit that they're showing this on RTL"...
oh god please stop worst channel ever
 

TheOddOne

Member
a1m said:
This makes me sad. Such a crappy game and audience, doing so wrong.
Stick it to the mass audience and buy some teen angst date sims! Why aren't more people buying those kind of games? They're brilliant.
 

beast786

Member
rvy said:
Meaning, gamers don't care about resolutions, framerates and buying unfinished products. Good job, gamers.


It is hard to see all of the above when you are buying it at midnight launch. I am not sure none knew about any of the above issues while they were standing in the line.
 

TheOddOne

Member
beast786 said:
It is hard to see all of the above when you are buying it at midnight launch. I am not sure none knew about any of the above issues while they were standing in the line.
Still even then, I doubt the sales would have been lower.
 

HK-47

Oh, bitch bitch bitch.
Totobeni said:
well deserved.

Black Ops single player mode is the best SP of COD series , congrats Treyarch.

It has such shitty pacing. I'd take any of the IW games other than MW2 over it.
 

Eliciel

Member
farnham said:
oh god please stop worst channel ever

I just said that I watched it their in the middle of the night, it is one of the worsest tv channels.

If you want to watch something real interesting watch ARTE. <3.


But, nevertheless they had it on the news ^^
 

J-Rzez

Member
Draft said:
Won't have sustained sales like MW/MW2 did.

I don't think so neither.

Word of mouth isn't really glowing right now. So many people at work, my friends, people at the game stores here, all are massively pissed at this game. As am I. I thought Trey would save this game, but instead it's a flight of a steps down in basically every key area a videogame thrives on from MW2 even. It's more customizable sure, but man, it's downgrade city.
 
I'm not buying this. Haven't purchased a COD game since Modern Warfare, since they've all seemed like incremental upgrades/downgrades/side-grades since then. I haven't played Black Ops yet, and really don't have any desire to either, but I spent some time with MW2 and thought it was rather poor.

Are people happy to buy these games every year? Like an annual sports title or something?

Each to their own I guess, and clearly people are having fun with these games. Bot honestly, I'm looking forward to this series going the way of Tony Hawk.
 

FStop7

Banned
Vigilant Walrus said:
In Japan they are seeing this news, thinking "wtf... all those games are the same. good that we have Dynasty Warrior!"




But seriously, this is... Disturbing. I dont own the game yet, but it looks really weak.. What new does the game bring? I havent played Reach, but that series plays differently. Halo feels different. COD and everything else feels the same in pace, and gameplay time.

The fast death/ and fast respawn mentality, has reduced the aspect of dying/losing the game, to nothing, and thus suspense and a want to not die is removed, as the punishment for dying is good. if there is no risk, there is no reward. COD has become a cumbersome feeling of fuck.
COD4 was sorta fun, but I have not enjoyed this series to its fulliest since the first one, but even WW2 was getting stale back then, and already there, in the series inception the game rode on the fucking laurels of Allied Assault and everything-wanna-be-saving-private-ryan. ffffffffuuuuuuuuuuuu

God, I want a true sequel to Battlefield 2 so bad. I am so sick of this shit.




COD lacks sophistication, and balance. There is no healthy ego system. its a bundle of michael bay type narrative shit, but without the campy fun, pulled down by a majestic military porn setting, that takes its aces from war films through boring scripted events to hide the simplistic AI, respawning enemies, lack of balanced weapons, lack of authentic non-cheap difficulty(demons souls, ninja gaiden...) and just a peerless boring bunch of linear levels with many invisible walls.

The lack of imagination is disturbing. any setting has to be more fun than this modern crap. I'll say that Black Ops looks more interesting than the last two, as they at least swap the goddam era for something else, but my fiery heart is further enraged when I see that we're getting to ride down a stream in vietnam with more goddam vietnam rock music. As the klichee was not klichee enough. FFFFFUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUU


Curses! But so what? So what? The world would be wrong if this mainstream game - This is the X factor/American Idol of video games. COD is Jonas Brothers and Lady Gaga. COD is Transfomers.
But I wanted this to be more like a high quality mainstream affair... Sure Dark Knight/Inception are overrated as crap in some areas. But if COD had that place in the gaming world, instead of the place of boring irelevance. Then the world would be a tiny bit better place.


EA and BF3 will not save us. It will not be the return to form for them. They will look inwards and at what COD is doing. That's what they are doing wrong. The last thing they should be doing is looking at COD.



I think I will buy Black Ops, but the multiplayer does not sound like anything, I was hoping for. Why are we going backwards? Stuffing everyone throat with modes, guns and weapons and just shit you dont need... What you need is fewer things that work. Less is more GODDAMIT. LESS IS MORE.
Give me 3 guns that are fun to use, rather than 30 mediocre once.

speechless
 

Eccocid

Member
Draft said:
Multi is janky. Multi is what drove MW2 to 20 million. Do not think BO will hit 20 million, or even come close.

It can be fixed besides they can cover up the wounds by releasing some free DLC or some surprising DLC and old maps etc etc
 

Cels

Member
People were going to buy this game simply because it's CALL OF DUTY, and Activision pulled out all the stops to promote it.

Most people don't know who the developer is, don't know and don't care that it's not Infinity Ward, not the same people behind Modern Warfare 1 & 2. Most people have never heard of Jason West and Vincent Zampella or Respawn Entertainment.
They just know that it's CALL OF DUTY, and it has cool guns and you shoot people and you level up online, you get cool stuff for killing lots of other people in a row, and that ALL THEIR FRIENDS are playing it.

Therefore, early sales were always going to be high, even if the game itself was mediocre. By most accounts the game is much better than mediocre, a credit to Treyarch.

The real question is, will Black Ops have sustained sales comparable to MW1 & 2? I don't know. My guess is that sustained sales will be very strong and similar to those of MW2, but that's just because again, most people are uninformed.

You can make a good argument that the game looks worse than Modern Warfare 2. The fact that this is even an issue is shameful. Black Ops should look better because Modern Warfare 2 is a year older. Mere parity would still be unacceptable.

The logical conclusion that many gamers would make is that "MW2 came out in 2009, BO came out in 2010, so BO should reflect an advancement in tech! Therefore, BO looks better!" Not true. IW did not share the tech it developed for MW2 with Treyarch. In fact, Treyarch was using tools and tech from W@W. Explains a lot, doesn't it?

Most PS3 gamers will never know that their version is soundly inferior to the Xbox version, as opposed to MW2 where IW achieved near-parity, where the PS3 version actually handled shadows better than the 360 version. Most PS3 gamers will not notice that the graphics and framerate are worse than Modern Warfare 2 and arguably the game looks worse than the year-older Modern Warfare 2. Most PS3 gamers will not care that only Xbox gamers get to play split-screen online with two XBL accounts, whereas PS3 gamers can only play split-screen online with one PSN account, the other one being a guest. Treyarch claims this is a built-in limitation of the PS3, even though the PS3 has been capable of logging in multiple PSN accounts to play online for over two years -- see Borderlands, LittleBigPlanet, and Resistance 2.
Will these issues cut down on PS3 sales over the long term? Maybe. I doubt it. Again, most PS3 gamers will never know about these problems.

Will PC gamers care that Treyarch botched the launch of the PC version, with the memory and CPU resource allocation causing severe framerate problems? PC gamers tend to be more sophisticated tech-wise then their console counterparts. After all, maintaining a gaming rig requires a higher level of knowledge about tech matters than it does to use a plug-and-play console. As long as Treyarch patches the problem in timely manner, I don't see this hurting long-term sales.

The single-player campaign is designed well and is about the same quality as the campaigns of MW1 and 2. Online multiplayer is robust, with plenty of game modes and compelling new options. In the end, that's what people want and what made people buy Modern Warfare 1 & 2, so I don't see sales dropping off sharply.
 
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