Call it Brave Fantasy and release it
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Bravely Default: Flying Fairy (3DS) - Demo Vol1 on 2/29, demo series announced
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Call it Brave Fantasy and release it
Wiz
Member
Lucky you. It's times like these when I wish there wasn't any region locking. :/
As for the title. I think Theatrhythm would make more sense based upon what type of game it is, while FF Dimensions might end up being an entirely different project.
I was forever alone in Crystal Chronicles so I didn't enjoy it as much as I wanted to.
electroplankton
Banned
In this case, naming the game Bravely Default did not make sense.
On a personal level, I rather it not be named Final Fantasy. On a marketing level, it better should be.
Why's that?
BassForever
Member
Right now Final Fantasy has this stigma attached to it where most people think all the games are inherently bad and leads to whining of "oh another final fantasy". I feel pretty confident that if Bravely Default came out as is and was called Final Fantasy ______ it would be hated more by GAF just because it has final fantasy slapped on it.
jimmypython
Member
I've tried the first AR mode which has a trailer in it. The 3D effect of the game is really good.
Well for starters I think it's smart for SE to be able to groom out a new series in the states. It certainly gives out that's the intention for japan, who knows if they'll succeed or not.
It'd also get rid of any localization baggage this particular game or the series might have, having to alude to elements from the FF franchise whenever possible.
I mean, it's not detrimental for my purchase or anything, but it'd be nice for it to be able to stand on it's own legs instead of relying on the FF name. Plus, if it's introduced as a spinoff, that might put a sales roof on it.
EmCeeGramr
Member
Man it's not the early-to-mid 90s anymore, consumers can accept a JRPG with a batshit dumb name instead of calling it "Final Fantasy But Not Really."
Hero of Legend
Member
Same, giving it its own identity should never hurt. :/ But whatever, we'll see what happens.
What was the last JRPG not called Final Fantasy that did 250k in the US?
Whatever the last Pokemon was I imagine, Black/White I think.
Mr. Wonderful
Member
Bullshots?
I would love for the game to have anywhere near that level of AA.
Either way, these screens look much better than the last ones I've seen. I must say I'm eagerly anticipating this game, and importers' impressions.
I would love for the game to have anywhere near that level of AA.
Either way, these screens look much better than the last ones I've seen. I must say I'm eagerly anticipating this game, and importers' impressions.
Dragon Quest IX. However, Square Enix has notably NOT renamed anything to Final Fantasy since the early 90s, it's harder to pass off an unrelated game as being FF now than it was then, and frankly even the FF name doesn't guarantee it'd break 250k or whatever arbitrary number you use, only hyped mainline installments do that. Most likely the name will remain the same or be changed to something no one expects, like Dewprism to Threads of Fate.
Well to be fair, DQ9 did so well here because Nintendo heavily advertised it.
This is done by Matrix Software right?
Hot but still respectable. Glad it doesn't have "Nomura" finished to the character design.
Awful.
Why would she cover dem thighs?
Game looks absolutely astounding. Love the style.
Jinfash
needs 2 extra inches
What a classy lady.
Probably Lost Odyssey with its gigantic ad campaign.
The Last Remnant
The Technomancer
card-carrying scientician
Really excited for this.
This game looks great. Hopefully it ends up being good, because I'm really hoping the 3DS and Vita end up being JRPG heaven like the DS and PSP were.
This may be off topic, but do you create levels in LittleBigPlanet? I seem to recall playing some awesome levels by a person named "jump_button."
This may be off topic, but do you create levels in LittleBigPlanet? I seem to recall playing some awesome levels by a person named "jump_button."
charlequin
Banned
Well, naming it that specifically didn't make sense in any context, but I do think the idea has something to it that in Japan the weakness of the FF brand is worth fighting by making a "new IP" while in the US it's still better to leech off the brand.
Dark Souls? Lost Odyssey? Dragon Quest IX? Persona 3? Star Ocean 4, even?
Nope.
Let's not maintain the polite fiction of this being an "unrelated game" now. It's the sequel to Final Fantasy: 4 Warriors of Light; it's got an "FF" in the title to hint at it; it only has a different name in the first place because Square-Enix recognizes that the FF brand is in a rut in Japan.
Did it not reach 250k or was it not the last one to do so?
The only actual numbers I could find come from You-Know-Where.
According to Gamastura it sold almost 600,000 world wide.
Those are shipments. Square Enix is one of the kings of stuffing the channel in the US.
Ah. Gamasutra doesn't specify and Kotaku say sales... Misleading.
They're sales for Square Enix. They sell them to retail. Publishers are less interested with actual consumer sales, but what they can sell to retailers since that's their business.
charlequin
Banned
It definitely didn't reach 250k. Last time we saw any data on it in the US it wasn't close to that, and Square-Enix overshipped in every region to hit that 580k worldwide.
Though I guess it's always possible that they sold somewhere between 50,000 and 150,000 copies of the game to US customers on Steam at $40-50 a pop, lulz.
I own it on 360 and Steam. I'm sure everyone did the same!
charlequin
Banned
You, and me, and Aeana, and four other guys, maybe.
They're not changing the title. As far as I know, they debated it when the initial criticism came out on announcement, but I'm pretty sure the people with the authority to change the name like it as is.
As far as I know, the team that made this is not the same as the one that made 4WOL.
All this talk of names.....Bravely Default was starting to grow on me.
If I interpret 'default' as if failing to make payment (ie: default on a loan), it starts to make sense.
Bravely default. I'm going to bravely default on my bank loan....
....and fight a bunch of dragons and stuff too.
If I interpret 'default' as if failing to make payment (ie: default on a loan), it starts to make sense.
Bravely default. I'm going to bravely default on my bank loan....
....and fight a bunch of dragons and stuff too.
Because we already have the Bikini dancer in EO4.
Then who then if it's not Matrix Software?
Admittedly avoiding calling it Final Fantasy in Japan is the only way I could buy them deciding to rename it here, in which case it's more of a Japan rename. Still, it's not as if FF is in the best of places here either, and depending on how distanced they keep it in-game I can see them not wanting to call it FF anywhere. Maybe the intent even IS to create a not-Final Fantasy, something that goes back to a more traditional fantasy style than where the series went in the PS1 then PS2 days.
And the name's more of an issue for outside of Japan (which they haven't announced anything for just yet) than there. Most likely they considered it, immediately wrote off renaming it in Japan, and plan for a new title for international release.
The only thing Final Fantasy really means is a game from Square Enix with more polish than their second tier stuff. It's not an identifier of content or genre.
The name for this game is so terrible that it would hurt sales, and I'd be surprised if the game is so bad SE don't feel it 'deserves' the name.
The name for this game is so terrible that it would hurt sales, and I'd be surprised if the game is so bad SE don't feel it 'deserves' the name.
You say this as though you believe Square-Enix is aware how ridiculous the name is.
Well, there's traditionally chocobos, returning monsters, a specific magic naming system... They vary so wildly that what you say IS essentially true, but you dump enough of those and it's just another SE RPG at that point.
jump_button
Banned
That sounds even worse though.... So it's a possibility.
Are there chocobos in 4WoL? I don't remember any. And it's not like they're only in FF either, they're in the Mana games too. I don't think they're an indication of a Final Fantasy, they just appear more frequently in them.
Eteric Rice
Member
artstyle looks so much better then the dead eye dolls dress up from most FF now days
Agreed.
The designs that Final Fantasy has these days are dumb as hell looking. The Bravely Default designs are classy, yet still sexy.
No no, I believe that some of the staff are aware that it's a strange name, but it's up to the higher-ups what this game is called.
It's stunning that default Serah is so bad a girl from a pop group can design a better outfit.
I do like all the Versus and Type-0 designs though.